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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
You go razor first because it helps you jungle a LOT faster. Have you tried getting a razor and jungling vs jungling without one? It's certainly a noticeable difference (at least to me). Your goal as a jungler is to control the buffs/dragon early game, if you're not doing that then you're ignoring part of your job description (also another job is to gank of course). Also razor builds in to bloodrazor which is a perfect synergy for his ult. Longsword + pot is another way to start off since longsword also builds into razor. Only problem is you have only 1 pot so you have less margin of error (but you do jungle a bit faster). | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
our ashe took... clarity and teleport. still won game since they had no tanks and we had two plus me as kayle. i love tanks so much. fucking solo queing sucks because no one wants to be tanks. i need to find a tank that i can play. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
 would been nice to a) not have a terrible matchup and b) have my chance to ditto one of the well respected Panth masters. ah well, next time. that game at least taught me that GA is insane on pantheon. it's clearly a way better investment that banshee's veil on him. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On June 27 2010 11:49 travis wrote: im curious.. everyone tells me to get razors but by the time i get it, im lvl 3-4, and im killing creeps fast enough it isn't THAT advantageous. it only seems worth it if i specifically plan on going for dragons/baron, but that doesn't seem to be working out so well in these mid level games so why not just skip the razors and go straight for phage into icy hammer or for bloodthirster or berserkers greaves? i could say "screw cloth armor" and go for a long sword or that +15% AS sword to start off? Never open dagger, ever. The reason you go razors first is because your #1 priority as Warwick is to control dragon. That's like your goal in life. It gives your entire team +130 gold and exp every 6 minutes, it's like everyone on your team getting 3/4 a kill. After you've tried to gank with red buff, if you see an opening you should always try for dragon, and the razors let you do it at level 4 (usually I do it at 5 after getting the other buffs). Phage is nice but you should have red buff when you go for kills early. Madred's Razors give you damage and bonus to creeps which is pretty significant for jungling, even if you might not realize it. Sometimes you'll 2-shot the regular golems or hit for 1500 in 3 hits on the buffs. It also builds into Bloodrazor, which is pretty much what I rush. My second fountain trip is usually for two Recurve Bows or a Bloodrazor, depending on team comp and what I expect. Wit's End is surprisingly good on Warwick, it gives you about as much damage as a BF Sword and it adds attackspeed and mana burn. If I see a squishy caster-heavy team I get that before Bloodrazor, if they're tanky or stacking armor I grab Bloodrazor first (and Mallet instead of Wit's End sometime after). Those and Frozen Mallet are the only three damage items you should ever consider getting on Warwick. Everything else should be survivability. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
I just saw a Blitzcrank 2v1 a lane and open Tiamat. He raped, it seems like a really good build. I read somewhere that Tiamat is actually like one of the most cost-efficient damage items in the game. Any thoughts on this? | ||
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sleeepy
Canada777 Posts
On June 27 2010 13:43 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: NP man this thread is like the best place on the interwebs to get good advice from players. I just saw a Blitzcrank 2v1 a lane and open Tiamat. He raped, it seems like a really good build. I read somewhere that Tiamat is actually like one of the most cost-efficient damage items in the game. Any thoughts on this? Yeah tiamat is a steal. Even just the damage is quite cost-effective and the regen/splash is a nice perk. The problem with tiamat is that it doesn't build into any core lategame damage item and becomes wasted gold past the 30-35 minute mark. In theory the splash should let you farm faster to lessen the deficit but that doesn't seem to be the case. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
In other news, harassing melee heroes with vorpal blade is the best thing since sliced bread. :D | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On June 27 2010 14:19 myopia wrote: Went 5-1 with Shen today and hit lvl 17. He's much more satisfying to play than Taric - at least I don't feel mostly useless if my team sucks. In other news, harassing melee heroes with vorpal blade is the best thing since sliced bread. :D my favorite is when you are in the 1v2 lane and you get not only first blood, but double kill first blood and end up going like 9-0-20 and the other team is like "well shen is OP so that's to be expected" and i go " d:V " | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
I can see why Riot is nerfing him because I literally feel unstoppable when late game comes around. I've had mixed success with soloing baron. Can anybody tell me the minimum item comp I need to take him down? Should I wait to get Starks or should I build my Guardian angel earlier. I guess none of it matters since they are nerfing him next patch but I really enjoy playing super-imba Shaco. | ||
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Dyllyn
Singapore670 Posts
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sleeepy
Canada777 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On June 27 2010 14:30 Athos wrote: Won my last 11 games as Shaco using the build from this thread.... I can see why Riot is nerfing him because I literally feel unstoppable when late game comes around. I've had mixed success with soloing baron. Can anybody tell me the minimum item comp I need to take him down? Should I wait to get Starks or should I build my Guardian angel earlier. I guess none of it matters since they are nerfing him next patch but I really enjoy playing super-imba Shaco. Ye, Shaco is way too good a carry. My last game I had a Shaco teammate who decided to 1v5 the enemy. Killed 2 of them before they took him down. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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GTR
51661 Posts
oh well beats my 0/0/23 veigar. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
their heimer was pro. coupled with an improved fortify and a teemo who placed really push-stopping mushrooms, we were up 20 kills nearly the whole game but never had a chance to end it until we aced them twice in a row at the 45 and 50 minute mark O_o also i've only seen 0/0/x where x is anything of significance one time and that was on a soraka who went like 0/0/21 those stat lines are always worth a laugh. he was trying so hard to ks ANYTHING by the end, it was hilarious | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On June 27 2010 16:05 Chairman Ray wrote: is madreds/starks really the most optimal build? i've seen shacos do it with boots+(pink)madreds+pickaxe+recurve+malady and just have 1 extra teammate tank. i feel like magic damage + armor pen shouldn't really go together.Ye, Shaco is way too good a carry. My last game I had a Shaco teammate who decided to 1v5 the enemy. Killed 2 of them before they took him down. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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