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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 13:59:51
June 27 2010 13:57 GMT
#2361
My PERSONAL opinion is that rushing bloodrazor on ezreal is the best build of them all. Long sword, then pickaxe, then finish madreds, then finish bloodrazor.

My reasoning is that while ezreal has very high dps and survivability, he's forced out of position by tanks a lot, just to get around their fat butts to land mystic shots on better targets. Not to mention tanks are often the ones getting hit by mystic shot the most in general since they're in front. Rushing a bloodrazor solves this problem entirely because tanks will be getting poked for around 500 damage by the time you finish bloodrazor (usually I get it before 20 minutes into the game, assuming a kill or two by then). This is assuming bloodrazor and nothing else, so you can image just how scary ezreal is as soon as he finishes it.

Plus, ezreal is one of the best carriers of the lizard buff. It helps if he can get it faster thanks to madred's razor. Give it a shot. It's pretty damn good for your team if their tanks get kited for 50% of their HP before the fight is even initiated.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 27 2010 14:06 GMT
#2362
On June 27 2010 17:09 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Also I just heard this from a guy I premade with, apparently Riot's removing the ability to cleanse out of ultimates. (!)

Are you sure it's not just Malzahar's ult that you won't be able to cleanse out of?
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
June 27 2010 14:17 GMT
#2363
On June 27 2010 23:06 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 17:09 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Also I just heard this from a guy I premade with, apparently Riot's removing the ability to cleanse out of ultimates. (!)

Are you sure it's not just Malzahar's ult that you won't be able to cleanse out of?


This is what I'd heard. If it's everyone's, then Amumu just got a slight buff...
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 14:24:31
June 27 2010 14:21 GMT
#2364
On June 27 2010 22:57 Juicyfruit wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
My PERSONAL opinion is that rushing bloodrazor on ezreal is the best build of them all. Long sword, then pickaxe, then finish madreds, then finish bloodrazor.

My reasoning is that while ezreal has very high dps and survivability, he's forced out of position by tanks a lot, just to get around their fat butts to land mystic shots on better targets. Not to mention tanks are often the ones getting hit by mystic shot the most in general since they're in front. Rushing a bloodrazor solves this problem entirely because tanks will be getting poked for around 500 damage by the time you finish bloodrazor (usually I get it before 20 minutes into the game, assuming a kill or two by then). This is assuming bloodrazor and nothing else, so you can image just how scary ezreal is as soon as he finishes it.

Plus, ezreal is one of the best carriers of the lizard buff. It helps if he can get it faster thanks to madred's razor. Give it a shot. It's pretty damn good for your team if their tanks get kited for 50% of their HP before the fight is even initiated.



If you rush a bloodrazor what do you start with? Sheen is good because you can start with a mana crystal and 2 health pots. I suppose i could start with cloth armor or something, but if I get a longsword first I'll only have one pot in lane and that could be a bit touch and go

Edit: In response to un-cleansable ultimates, they're adding a new type of CC, called supression. Basically it is a stun + summoner spell silence (i.e: you can't use cleanse because you're silenced), only some people will have it, mostly single target ults that are channeled, namely warwick and mal'zahar. These ults can still be cleansed by quicksilver sash. Funny thing is I've never built that item. EVER
u gotta sk8
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 27 2010 14:22 GMT
#2365
I might be wrong if he might be wrong, who knows? I was really hoping to have Warwick's ult become uncleansable :D.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
June 27 2010 14:30 GMT
#2366
Has the game's UI always been bugged or is this a new thing? I try to watch my team's health for Shen's ultimate and there's significant lag between updates (often people will die but it'll still show them at full health) so whenever a teammate gets ganked I actually have to watch the fight rather than my own champion.
it's my first day
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
June 27 2010 14:30 GMT
#2367
9. What is this suppression thing everyone is talking about?

Malzahar is no longer going to stun with his ult. He's going to have a new type of debuff called Suppression. What suppression does is makes you unable to move, attack, cast and also locks your summoner spells from being cast for the duration. However, Quicksilver Sash will still prevent it. It will also be unmitigated by Mercury's treads as it is a debuff type not covered by it. Warwick might also get suppression on his ult, but we might reduce the duration or nerf him in another way to compensate.


From that shurelia answers thread on the official forums.

If you guys wanna see all the red posts on the official forums CLgaming has a cool little red post tracker:

http://www.clgaming.net/index.php?page=reds
u gotta sk8
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-27 14:52:11
June 27 2010 14:37 GMT
#2368
On June 27 2010 23:21 nataziel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 22:57 Juicyfruit wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
My PERSONAL opinion is that rushing bloodrazor on ezreal is the best build of them all. Long sword, then pickaxe, then finish madreds, then finish bloodrazor.

My reasoning is that while ezreal has very high dps and survivability, he's forced out of position by tanks a lot, just to get around their fat butts to land mystic shots on better targets. Not to mention tanks are often the ones getting hit by mystic shot the most in general since they're in front. Rushing a bloodrazor solves this problem entirely because tanks will be getting poked for around 500 damage by the time you finish bloodrazor (usually I get it before 20 minutes into the game, assuming a kill or two by then). This is assuming bloodrazor and nothing else, so you can image just how scary ezreal is as soon as he finishes it.

Plus, ezreal is one of the best carriers of the lizard buff. It helps if he can get it faster thanks to madred's razor. Give it a shot. It's pretty damn good for your team if their tanks get kited for 50% of their HP before the fight is even initiated.



If you rush a bloodrazor what do you start with? Sheen is good because you can start with a mana crystal and 2 health pots. I suppose i could start with cloth armor or something, but if I get a longsword first I'll only have one pot in lane and that could be a bit touch and go


After you buy a longsword and a potion, you'll have 25 gold left. The trick is to wait in base until after the minion start spawning to generate the 10 extra gold, and then go to mid.

You won't miss any exp =]

Sheen sucks on ezreal now. No reason he wants to pay for mana because he doesn't USE that much mana. 20AP makes no difference on him.

Also: I laugh at the idea of an uncleasable Ashe arrow. Riot's not THAT silly though >.>

Also Also: I love it when people miscalculate their burst damage because of my tenacity mastery =] getting away with 20HP is fun.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 27 2010 14:57 GMT
#2369
not just cleanse but its also the effect of merc treads
and right now it is just malz i think
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
June 27 2010 15:30 GMT
#2370
tank eve is like tank mundo. It works if the enemy team hits you. With eve it works surprisingly well, because even if you have a ton of hp people still attack you because its programmed in their mind that you are squishy.
Brees on in
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
June 27 2010 15:44 GMT
#2371
I think tank eve is like a mini-alistar. Speed boost/flash in. Stun 2 people with hate spike. Start smacking the squishest character around. Pretty fun :D
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 27 2010 15:47 GMT
#2372
So, I'm Jax and the lategame just started. I have my GRB and GA, and just finished my IE. The enemy team is mostly casters and a Shaco. My team assembles mid, as does the enemy team, and a team fight breaks out. I hang back at first to let my tank engage, and their casters get all up in our business, so I jump in.

I go for their Kassadin first, but he rift walks back. I turn to their Kog'Maw, but he runs away and their Kassadin snares me. AP Cho'gath (with 3k health, no armor and 200 AP) runs up to me, so I turn to focus him. I'm ripping him a new one... until I realize that my healer, tank and both other DPS are on a wild goose hunt after the enemy Shaco's clone (Shaco was 2-1 that game btw, he wasn't a threat).

I was going 6-1. After 5 teamfights where my team ran around in circles instead of engaging the enemy, we lost the game, and I got a 6-6 score ><
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
June 27 2010 16:09 GMT
#2373
yay just bought warwick and i love him

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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
June 27 2010 16:20 GMT
#2374
Wow, just had a game where I went 13-0-13 with Ashe, getting an ace in the process! by far the best I have done with her.

[image loading]

I have a bad habit of rushing for a Philosophers stone early though, gotta stop that :/
Hope hero rotation changes soon, I want to try out some more heros. So far the only other one I kinda like is Sivir but she bores me for some reason....




"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
June 27 2010 16:33 GMT
#2375
Ace is what happens when all the people on the other team are dead. So say 4 players died, and you happen to kill the last one, you have 'aced' the team. Whats impressive is getting quadra/pentakills, that means you were the actual killer of all 4-5 players.
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
June 27 2010 16:33 GMT
#2376
why in the world did you have a rod of ages, catalyst should be turned into banshee's veil
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 27 2010 16:39 GMT
#2377
On June 28 2010 01:33 kdgns wrote:
why in the world did you have a rod of ages, catalyst should be turned into banshee's veil

Agreed, Rod of Ages is not good at all on Ashe. Ability Power does nothing for her.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 27 2010 16:39 GMT
#2378
On June 28 2010 01:20 Enki wrote:
Wow, just had a game where I went 13-0-13 with Ashe, getting an ace in the process! by far the best I have done with her.

I have a bad habit of rushing for a Philosophers stone early though, gotta stop that :/
Hope hero rotation changes soon, I want to try out some more heros. So far the only other one I kinda like is Sivir but she bores me for some reason....



I would never understand how one can play more than 10 games of a hero as boring as Ashe. Olaf is the best thing in the current rotation tho =)
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
June 27 2010 16:47 GMT
#2379
Does anyone know all the spawn intervals for the lizard/dragon/etc.?
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
June 27 2010 16:51 GMT
#2380
I've been experimenting with a new Taric build that's been doing wonders for me:

Mekai's alone to start (no pots)
Chalice + Mercs on first return (or Tabi if they're AD heavy)
Catalyst
RoA
Nashor's Tooth
Zhonya's Ring

Rarely gets all the way to Zhonya's, but this way, by the time you get Nashors, you have an obscenely fast CD on your heal, which will do ups of 500 with the AP you have, combined with a good 800-1000 damage Dazzle + Shatter which helps your team burst stuff down. AP Taric is an awesome support hero.
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