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Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
January 27 2011 03:13 GMT
#761
Alright that's basically what I was doing. The way I was playing her today was fishing for a ch mp to get in with. After that I just went for mix ups all day until they got away. Then I did that again.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 07:59:31
January 28 2011 07:56 GMT
#762
I recently saw this Tokido demo video form option select


and I was wondering what the damage was on this combo compared to the standard BnB combo of c.mk, lk.tatsu, hp.srl. And also does the c.hk juggle work on ever character?

Is the only benefit the ability to do more after the last hit. (the srk ending takes longer to recover obviously).

PS- I was practicing doing the demon flip punch(whiffed) land behind and true kara demon behind. Is that something good to try/learn? What is best demon setups?
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
January 28 2011 19:30 GMT
#763
Deal today, SSF4 for 360 is only $13 with free shipping at Newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874129019&cm_mmc=AFC-SlickDeals-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&nm_mc=AFC-SlickDeals
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
January 28 2011 19:42 GMT
#764
On January 28 2011 16:56 SpoR wrote:
I recently saw this Tokido demo video form option select
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkv_IDrCwX8

and I was wondering what the damage was on this combo compared to the standard BnB combo of c.mk, lk.tatsu, hp.srl. And also does the c.hk juggle work on ever character?

Is the only benefit the ability to do more after the last hit. (the srk ending takes longer to recover obviously).

PS- I was practicing doing the demon flip punch(whiffed) land behind and true kara demon behind. Is that something good to try/learn? What is best demon setups?


The SRK does more damage (obviously) but you're limited in wakeup options. The true strength of Akuma is his "vortex" or mixup game after untechable knockdowns. This leads to faster stuns and more confusion and recklessness from your opponent which you can use to apply more damaging combos or simply start the vortex over again. The sweep link works on everyone.

As for U1, kara demon isn't very powerful in SSF4 as it was in 3s. There are a few prime opportunities to use U1:
- fullscreen throwing a normal fireball, with the correct timing U1 is guaranteed if the other player jumps over, unless they have a move to slow their descent or change trajectory. This is like XBL tactics.
- when someone is jumping in, use c.mk and buffer into U1. c.mk brings Akuma very low to the ground where most jump-ins will whiff, and you can use U1 to punish the whiffed jump-in during their landing frames.
- as an OS during a safe jump. By buffering U1 during the end of your jump-in attack then holding down-back and hitting a poke like c.lk afterward, it sets up an OS where if your jump-in hit or was blocked, the c.lk comes out. If it whiffed (say due to backdash or some defensive invincible move like Viper EX seismo), the U1 comes out and punishes.
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AmaZing
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Nepal299 Posts
January 29 2011 17:47 GMT
#765

Here guys enjoy this brilliant comedic video.
I already posted this on the youtube thread, but i thought it would be appreciated here for its street fighter humor
ಠ_ಠ
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
January 29 2011 22:43 GMT
#766
On January 29 2011 04:42 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2011 16:56 SpoR wrote:
I recently saw this Tokido demo video form option select
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkv_IDrCwX8

and I was wondering what the damage was on this combo compared to the standard BnB combo of c.mk, lk.tatsu, hp.srl. And also does the c.hk juggle work on ever character?

Is the only benefit the ability to do more after the last hit. (the srk ending takes longer to recover obviously).

PS- I was practicing doing the demon flip punch(whiffed) land behind and true kara demon behind. Is that something good to try/learn? What is best demon setups?


The SRK does more damage (obviously) but you're limited in wakeup options. The true strength of Akuma is his "vortex" or mixup game after untechable knockdowns. This leads to faster stuns and more confusion and recklessness from your opponent which you can use to apply more damaging combos or simply start the vortex over again. The sweep link works on everyone.

As for U1, kara demon isn't very powerful in SSF4 as it was in 3s. There are a few prime opportunities to use U1:
- fullscreen throwing a normal fireball, with the correct timing U1 is guaranteed if the other player jumps over, unless they have a move to slow their descent or change trajectory. This is like XBL tactics.
- when someone is jumping in, use c.mk and buffer into U1. c.mk brings Akuma very low to the ground where most jump-ins will whiff, and you can use U1 to punish the whiffed jump-in during their landing frames.
- as an OS during a safe jump. By buffering U1 during the end of your jump-in attack then holding down-back and hitting a poke like c.lk afterward, it sets up an OS where if your jump-in hit or was blocked, the c.lk comes out. If it whiffed (say due to backdash or some defensive invincible move like Viper EX seismo), the U1 comes out and punishes.


As much as I want to disbelieve this youtube comment I am still questioning it

everyone except; ryu, ken, rufus, abel, makoto, bison, juri, and dudley

confirm/deny ? (It may be different from sf4 to ss4 or ss4 ae) I know they changed some frame startups on akumas HK
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
January 29 2011 23:16 GMT
#767
Can someone recommend me a fight stick for 360 that's under 100 bucks?
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
January 29 2011 23:20 GMT
#768
You can get the very best retail stick on the market for under $100. The Mad Catz TE stick has pretty frequent discounts coinciding with tournaments that bring it down to $100 with free shipping. It was also $99.99 on Amazon for the longest time but I guess Amazon changed the price recently, but $100 is about the going rate if you can wait a little bit.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
January 30 2011 02:55 GMT
#769
Spor im prett sure that comment is accurate because if you watch videos of Tokido's Akuma, he doesn't go for the sweep reset against shotos.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 21:58:36
January 30 2011 21:57 GMT
#770
On January 30 2011 11:55 Demoninja wrote:
Spor im prett sure that comment is accurate because if you watch videos of Tokido's Akuma, he doesn't go for the sweep reset against shotos.


well i'm asking because I want to practice this combo (vs everyone) and i'm having trouble timing the sweep and im not sure if its just me or the fact that each character has a different timing/can't be hit.
also for the characters it wouldn't work on, what is the best alternative to give you faster recovery? Like just a c.mk, lt.tatsu with lp.shoryu instead of hp?
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
January 31 2011 12:29 GMT
#771
Sorry if these are reposts, but really good matches (takido is really on point)



A man is what he thinks about all day long.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 13:53:01
January 31 2011 13:52 GMT
#772
I like how Tokido usually makes daigo scared of punishing whiffed sweeps in fear of getting demon'd <3

MURDERAFCE!
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 19:07:34
February 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#773
hey guys I'm trying to make a backup disc for sf4 http://shoryuken.com/f177/trying-burn-copy-my-sf4-disc-backup-264155/#post10185990

and I did but it doesn't play the game. Anyone know where to get a nocdloader or something?

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A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Ex_Matt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada84 Posts
February 01 2011 05:37 GMT
#774
who wants to get blown up?

Fear the reaper man
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
February 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#775
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
February 06 2011 07:36 GMT
#776
Damn Yun is stupid, free U1 anywhere after ex lunge?
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
February 06 2011 08:02 GMT
#777
Woohoo, Marn won :3
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-06 19:28:20
February 06 2011 16:45 GMT
#778
was there a stream or something last night?

and yes yun gets a free U1 after ex lunge (grounded only. if it gets em in teh air won't work). but yun still dies since has low life and only his ex dragon kicks as his DP (normal seems to whiff vs lows). i was landing it somehow since we still don't know how to safe-jump it. hes just really good at RTSD. and its not like 1 meter into ultra isn't something new in ssf4.

i needa hit up the arcades again. haven't been there every since blizzards started :/
Forever Young
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
February 06 2011 19:12 GMT
#779
Yeah yeah, I know I'll probably stop complaining once we figure some shit out but still Yun's 1 meter into ultra is ridiculous seeing how it's completely safe and he can just throw it out.

There's was a stream at Round 1 in SoCal. Marn took first with Yun, Jwong 2nd with Yang, and Tatsu 3rd with Vega.
MadPretty
Profile Joined October 2010
United States101 Posts
February 06 2011 19:57 GMT
#780
On January 19 2011 18:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Game's arriving in the mail tomorrow. I've never played Fighters seriously so I'm the lowest of the low when it comes to scrubs.

My PSN is AirbagMaestro if any kind TLer wants to add me and maybe show me the ropes a little bit.

What are the easiest characters to play? I prefer playing females in fighters and some people suggested Cammy and Juri to me. I guess I should just play everyone until I get a taste for who suits me but a suggestion would be neato to point me in the right direction.


Cammy is a reeeeally tough character to play with if you are any serious about your ranking. Quite technical with very crisp links means if you haven't played fighting games, the timing on her bread and butter combos may be out of the picture for you. Juri is a pretty decent choice because she has decent normals and a hi/low mixup with delayed fireballs.

If you want to learn the game first, grab a shoto (ryu, ken, etc) character and learn about zoning.
Zoning is the practice of keeping your opponent where you want them using normals and specials. Once you get that down, you can work on things like links, chains, FADC, and other advanced techniques.
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