Super Street Fighter 4 Thread - Page 21

I just said it shouldn't hit me when I'm doing a crouching heavy kick to punish another blocked move.

On July 07 2010 01:54 Odinsphere wrote:



Thats the thing though! I'm in the MIDDLE of pressuring and DP comes out of nowhere and stops it like that. I didn't say I expose myself to it every time someone does it. I just said it shouldn't hit me when I'm doing a crouching heavy kick to punish another blocked move. Like when a person does a combo string or a special move and its blocked they should be punished for it, but Ryu has the uncanny ability to just DP his way out of or through anything. I played this cammy a while back..all he did was spiral arrow...I would block..try to crouch heavy kick to trip him..and POW! right in the kisser with a cannon spike. Don't worry..I learn more from my loses than from my victories. Dumb strategies like that are sort of like a protoss proxy...it might work once..but it won't work next time.

On July 06 2010 14:40 Bill307 wrote:
Try changing characters. I started with Makoto and couldn't win any games. Literally. I think I won at most 2 games against guys at my level. Then I switched to Cody and immediately I started winning against everybody.

On July 07 2010 04:01 MCMcEmcee wrote:
eventhubs finally got rid of that crappy tier list that people kept quoting despite it being obviously wrong across the board, hurray

edit:
or rather they posted the actual recent JP tier lists on their front page news, the terrible one is still in their articles or whatever

On July 06 2010 03:55 sung_moon wrote:


met him in RL. think he does it to be funny. I THINK.....
he was a lot more relax organizing NECX considering how many entrants came in late when their team got called and started bitching that they got DQ'd -_-

On July 07 2010 13:13 CharlieMurphy wrote:

I've watched a lot of his videos. Apparently he has back problems so he can't really do much but game all day. He does a lot of walkthrough type videos for all sorts of games, and he is also a very avid fighting games player. half the time he is just fucking around and making a show, but there are plenty of times where he is genuinely raging. So it's entertaining either way.

On July 08 2010 05:54 MCMcEmcee wrote:

There was a "Japanese tier list" that people kept quoting, which didn't line up with any actual Japanese tier list discussion that was going on at the time. Stuff like D rank Rose (lololol) and C rank Cammy and such. S rank Sagat! If it wasn't just them taking input from any random person and making their own list, then it was at best a random list posted on a BBS with no real attention paid to who actually posted it (JAPANESE SOURCES).

Clearly the game is still relatively new and Japan still has SBO to prepare for while they're trying to enjoy Super instead, so there's a lot of wiggle room still... but there are a lot of obvious, broad assessments that can be made about characters at the moment, and most of them aren't even new. So silly to still see people saying "omg so good to see someone rep Rose/Fei-Long/Cammy/etc." and such in comments when Rose/Fei-Long/Cammy have been B+/A rank for a while now. Sure was cool seeing people rep underdogs in vanilla like boxer and Rufus, too.

On a slightly related note since you were posting about this earlier:
Don't bother trying to punish things with Juri's sweep. It's way too slow to be considered a punish move, 90% of the time you can actually punish something with sweep, you could punish it easier with a full combo.

If you're getting DP'd out of pressure, tighten up your pressure and start baiting DPs. If you're getting DP'd when you're trying to punish something, either your punish is completely wrong or the move isn't punishable.
And honestly everything you've posted about getting DP'd implies that you DO "expose yourself" to getting DP'd quite a bit. You might not think that, but that's because you don't know enough about the game and are going on your own misinformed assumptions about how the game "should" be. If you get hit by a DP at all, you were "exposed." Instead of saying "omg DPs are so good and DPing people out of poorly-thought-out sweeps is cheesy like proxy gateways," you should be asking yourself "why am I doing the moves that are getting DP'd in these situations, and how can I do something else in that situation so that I don't get DP'd?"

On July 08 2010 05:54 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Don't bother trying to punish things with Juri's sweep. It's way too slow to be considered a punish move, 90% of the time you can actually punish something with sweep, you could punish it easier with a full combo.

On July 08 2010 09:15 kainzero wrote:

You can punish whiffs with Juri's sweep. It has pretty long range and knocks down. It's a bit faster than standing far HK and has a bit more range than C.MK.

Also someone discovered you can link her sweep from jabs but no one's quite sure how it works.

...I'm just sayin'.

On July 08 2010 09:15 kainzero wrote:
Also someone discovered you can link her sweep from jabs but no one's quite sure how it works.

On July 08 2010 09:23 Odinsphere wrote:
Maybe the linking has something to do with the Feng Shui engine ultra? I would love to use it more because there are some pretty amazing combos you can do with that the problem is most people play a crouch fighting game so the best you can do is link all three kicks together in once combo with that.