On June 02 2010 06:27 Lefnui wrote:
It's a logical assumption when you say something as stupid as you did. To claim that playing back on someone makes it easier for them to blow by you, well that's just insane. It shows that you have no understanding of the game at all.

I'm aware you live in NYC, moron. Obviously you do if that's where you want the game to be played. My point was that I don't live there, as you should have assumed. I'm not going to travel to NYC so that I can destroy a newb in basketball.

The point is that you're entirely wrong, that's why everyone here has disagreed with you. It's common sense that playing back on someone makes it less likely and not more that they would drive by you. If you can't understand that then you're an idiot.

if it helps, kenny smith and some other experts mentioned that playing off of rondo was backfiring terribly for cleveland, and that they should start playing him close =o

CSN

United States175 Posts

June 02 2010 02:43 GMT

#2183

On June 02 2010 11:40 ccdnl wrote:

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Was this an old school game? Looks like the game NBA Street...other than that pretty wack

it was the best old school basketball game!

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

June 02 2010 02:51 GMT

#2184

On June 02 2010 11:34 BalliSLife wrote:
Guys, they brought back NBA jam...why isn't this big fucking news??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bUm4_dyiI4

somebody should put a straight jacket on this guy!

One of the most infuriating AIs ever (although Hitz and the hockey game were bad too.) My one redeeming moment was winning the championship on a 70ft John Starks 3 pointer.

Weren't the Pistons the imba team, with Isiah and Lambieer?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

June 02 2010 02:53 GMT

#2185

Pippen and Grant were ridiculous too :/

wasn't there one with Rodman and Robinson where you could change Rodman's hair lots of times too?

Lefnui

United States753 Posts

June 02 2010 02:55 GMT

#2186

On June 02 2010 06:32 Ace wrote:
you seem to have a problem with rage. Now you assume that I'm a newb at ball and you'll destroy me. oh noes :/

Also by "everyone" do you mean 2 other people? Because of all the people that have "agreed" with you tonight is the only one who has been around for multiple years of you that has shown any credible knowledge. But have fun raging with your hollow win win win.

I never said anything about "destroying" you. You're the one who challenged me to a game. Which by the way is very stupid since you should assume I don't live in NYC. However, I'd feel pretty confident about playing you in that very hypothetical situation. Anyone who thinks that playing back on someone makes it more likely that they drive past you knows absolutely nothing about basketball.

Credible knowledge? You will find absolutely no one who will agree with you on this. I defy you to find any credible coach or player who will agree with that. What you said is the exact opposite of the truth. It's total and complete nonsense that you can't even begin to back up. Here it is again:

"Defenders that play back on him get blown by"

Is anyone else willing to agree with that garbage?

BalliSLife

1339 Posts

June 02 2010 02:57 GMT

#2187

On June 02 2010 11:40 ccdnl wrote:

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Was this an old school game? Looks like the game NBA Street...other than that pretty wack

Oh dude it beats nba street by a couple of light years. And fyi each light year is just under 10 trillion miles, to be exact it's 9,460,730,472,580.8 km. So if its a couple of light years you times that number by 3. Now do you know how good this game is?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

June 02 2010 02:58 GMT

#2188

2 people have already said they agree with me. That brings the total war count to 3-3.

sup?

BalliSLife

1339 Posts

June 02 2010 03:00 GMT

#2189

Both of you guys need to provide some youtube clips on this matter =)

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

June 02 2010 03:05 GMT

#2190

On June 02 2010 11:40 ccdnl wrote:

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Was this an old school game? Looks like the game NBA Street...other than that pretty wack

Oh jesus... I hope you're playing with me.

EDIT: Just to make myself feel older, here were the other 2 best basketball games in the 90s (and 2000s)

Ace

United States16096 Posts

June 02 2010 03:05 GMT

#2191

Why? It's been commented on for like ever in the NBA. and you can see it every game. I can even go as far and say "anyone who's really played basketball knows your wrong for giving a PG room to drive and if you disagree you're an idiot and never touched a ball ever."

condoriano

United States826 Posts

June 02 2010 03:08 GMT

#2192

I played this game.. I remember the "turbo"

BalliSLife

1339 Posts

June 02 2010 03:11 GMT

#2193

On June 02 2010 12:08 condoriano wrote:
I played this game.. I remember the "turbo"

Whats wrong with the turbo? I remember the 6 point hot spots lol or were they 4 points?

BalliSLife

1339 Posts

June 02 2010 03:18 GMT

#2194

I'd say both ace and lefnui is right respectively, since you guys are talking about Rondo who can't shoot when given space you can't compare him to other pg's who can/would shoot when given the space.

unknown.sam

Philippines2701 Posts

June 02 2010 03:34 GMT

#2195

those games couldn't possibly be more old school than this one.

TheMusiC

United States1054 Posts

June 02 2010 03:36 GMT

#2196

i think you're both wrong, easiest way to defend against a driving pg is to trip him obv

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

June 02 2010 03:36 GMT

#2197

You two are both vastly oversimplifying how to play point guards, and it's a little amusing. Obviously it depends on things like the individual players' quickness, dribbling and shooting ability, but it also matters how good their screens are and how good your team is at communication. Beyond that, inside/outside leg, which is their better hand, etc. There's plenty of times when you can play off someone and plenty when you can get on them.

Since none of us have any experience guarding NBA point guards, who are all fast and can go both directions, I don't think personal experience really matters. I agree with trying to block some of his vision, but the danger in playing that close is that Boston sets the best (and arguably least legal) screens in the NBA, which in itself is a way to keep people from being that aggressive. I didn't watch enough of the Thunder-Lakers series to have an idea of what they did with Westbrook, and I have no idea what Rondo's tendencies or subtle strengths are (by that I mean which direction, where he likes to go from, how does he make his first step), so I can't really comment on what they should do.

Lefnui needs to calm down though. o.o

I love the Rucker Park challenge though. In a pick up, I can definitely see why you'd play up on most guards though. I'm curious, how the hell did a kid from Harlem grow up loving the Celtics?