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LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
April 05 2011 02:13 GMT
#1661
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 05 2011 02:25 GMT
#1662
Mienfoo
Carracosta
krookodile
victini
Serperior
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 02:33:39
April 05 2011 02:32 GMT
#1663
On April 05 2011 10:47 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:42 Ferrose wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:37 infinitestory wrote:
You guys haven't trolled unless you've used one of these teams.

+ Show Spoiler +

Ninetales (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- SolarBeam
- Psyshock
- Dark Pulse

Durant (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Retaliate
- Entrainment
- X-Scissor
- Iron Head

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power

Chandelure (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower

Magikarp (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash

Feebas (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash


+ Show Spoiler +

Infernape (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Assist
- Protect
- Roar

Smeargle (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Assist

Drapion (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roar
- Protect
- Thief

Liepard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Assist
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

Persian (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Limber
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Hardy Nature
- Assist
- Roar
- Snatch
- Protect

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Protect


LOL Entrainment Truant Durant, I love it.

that's not even the best part
the idea is you let them kill your durant, then go into chandelure
alternate using protect and calm mind until you are +6 SpA
then do that with flame charge to get as much Spd as possible

i edited my post to include magnezone instead of heatran - the magnezone i put can get +6 in all stats reliably if your killer is a steel type


for the other team, all you need to know is that assist can get roar, whirlwind, etc. and negates the -6 priority from phaze moves, so liepard's assist is (most of the time) a priority phaze


The first team is completely walled by Heatran, and Skarmory that hasn't been damaged before can phaze with Sturdy/Whirlwind. Strong priority such as Azumarill Aqua Jet or Toxicroak Sucker Punch (I'm sure I can think of better sucker punch examples....they're just not coming to mind immediately) also stop it as well.

The second team is stopped by any priority taunt (think genies).
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ak1knight
Profile Joined April 2010
United States313 Posts
April 05 2011 02:34 GMT
#1664
On April 05 2011 10:03 Coagulation wrote:
can anyone hook me up with a dragon pokemon ?
i need a decent one to fight the last dragon type gym.

Go grab Cobalion and Virizion. They're the right level and Sacred Sword is great because it gets priority. They don't have any super effective STABs but they'll be more useful than vanillite/chubchoo later on.
w00t
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
April 05 2011 02:34 GMT
#1665
I actually dumped my starter after a while.

I used this to beat the E4 the first time:

Carracosta
Lilligant
Haxorus
Accelgor
Buffalouant
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
April 05 2011 02:38 GMT
#1666
On April 05 2011 11:32 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:47 infinitestory wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:42 Ferrose wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:37 infinitestory wrote:
You guys haven't trolled unless you've used one of these teams.

+ Show Spoiler +

Ninetales (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- SolarBeam
- Psyshock
- Dark Pulse

Durant (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Retaliate
- Entrainment
- X-Scissor
- Iron Head

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power

Chandelure (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower

Magikarp (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash

Feebas (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash


+ Show Spoiler +

Infernape (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Assist
- Protect
- Roar

Smeargle (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Assist

Drapion (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roar
- Protect
- Thief

Liepard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Assist
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

Persian (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Limber
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Hardy Nature
- Assist
- Roar
- Snatch
- Protect

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Protect


LOL Entrainment Truant Durant, I love it.

that's not even the best part
the idea is you let them kill your durant, then go into chandelure
alternate using protect and calm mind until you are +6 SpA
then do that with flame charge to get as much Spd as possible

i edited my post to include magnezone instead of heatran - the magnezone i put can get +6 in all stats reliably if your killer is a steel type


for the other team, all you need to know is that assist can get roar, whirlwind, etc. and negates the -6 priority from phaze moves, so liepard's assist is (most of the time) a priority phaze


The first team is completely walled by Heatran, and Skarmory that hasn't been damaged before can phaze with Sturdy/Whirlwind. Strong priority such as Azumarill Aqua Jet or Toxicroak Sucker Punch (I'm sure I can think of better sucker punch examples....they're just not coming to mind immediately) also stop it as well.

The second team is stopped by any priority taunt (think genies).

There are actually a lot of things that stop the first team, namely:
anything that outspeeds the ant and OHKOs
anything with Aqua Jet, Shadow Sneak, or Sucker Punch
Heatran, like you said

the point is that if the opponent does not pack one of several specific counters, it's an auto lose. My friend got to #3 on P-O's ladder some time ago with just the ant and chandelure
Translator:3
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
April 05 2011 02:40 GMT
#1667
On April 05 2011 11:32 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:47 infinitestory wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:42 Ferrose wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:37 infinitestory wrote:
You guys haven't trolled unless you've used one of these teams.

+ Show Spoiler +

Ninetales (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- SolarBeam
- Psyshock
- Dark Pulse

Durant (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Retaliate
- Entrainment
- X-Scissor
- Iron Head

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power

Chandelure (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower

Magikarp (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash

Feebas (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash


+ Show Spoiler +

Infernape (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Assist
- Protect
- Roar

Smeargle (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Assist

Drapion (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roar
- Protect
- Thief

Liepard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Assist
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

Persian (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Limber
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Hardy Nature
- Assist
- Roar
- Snatch
- Protect

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Protect


LOL Entrainment Truant Durant, I love it.

that's not even the best part
the idea is you let them kill your durant, then go into chandelure
alternate using protect and calm mind until you are +6 SpA
then do that with flame charge to get as much Spd as possible

i edited my post to include magnezone instead of heatran - the magnezone i put can get +6 in all stats reliably if your killer is a steel type


for the other team, all you need to know is that assist can get roar, whirlwind, etc. and negates the -6 priority from phaze moves, so liepard's assist is (most of the time) a priority phaze


The first team is completely walled by Heatran, and Skarmory that hasn't been damaged before can phaze with Sturdy/Whirlwind. Strong priority such as Azumarill Aqua Jet or Toxicroak Sucker Punch (I'm sure I can think of better sucker punch examples....they're just not coming to mind immediately) also stop it as well.

The second team is stopped by any priority taunt (think genies).


Absol. 130 base ATK on a priority STAB move? yes please.
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 05 2011 02:41 GMT
#1668
On April 05 2011 11:32 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:47 infinitestory wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:42 Ferrose wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:37 infinitestory wrote:
You guys haven't trolled unless you've used one of these teams.

+ Show Spoiler +

Ninetales (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- SolarBeam
- Psyshock
- Dark Pulse

Durant (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Retaliate
- Entrainment
- X-Scissor
- Iron Head

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power

Chandelure (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower

Magikarp (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash

Feebas (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash


+ Show Spoiler +

Infernape (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Assist
- Protect
- Roar

Smeargle (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Assist

Drapion (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roar
- Protect
- Thief

Liepard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Assist
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

Persian (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Limber
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Hardy Nature
- Assist
- Roar
- Snatch
- Protect

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Protect


LOL Entrainment Truant Durant, I love it.

that's not even the best part
the idea is you let them kill your durant, then go into chandelure
alternate using protect and calm mind until you are +6 SpA
then do that with flame charge to get as much Spd as possible

i edited my post to include magnezone instead of heatran - the magnezone i put can get +6 in all stats reliably if your killer is a steel type


for the other team, all you need to know is that assist can get roar, whirlwind, etc. and negates the -6 priority from phaze moves, so liepard's assist is (most of the time) a priority phaze


The first team is completely walled by Heatran, and Skarmory that hasn't been damaged before can phaze with Sturdy/Whirlwind. Strong priority such as Azumarill Aqua Jet or Toxicroak Sucker Punch (I'm sure I can think of better sucker punch examples....they're just not coming to mind immediately) also stop it as well.

The second team is stopped by any priority taunt (think genies).


Or my Prankster Encore+Taunt Whimsicott :D

In White I used for in-game:

Serperior
Excadrill
Conkeldurr
Gigalith
Archeops
Galvantula

In Black I have (in Chargestone Cave):

Dewott
Sigilyph
Herdier
Scolipede
Sawk
Ferroseed

All level 30, except Ferroseed, who is only level 24 because I just caught it (was Cottonee before).
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 05 2011 03:29 GMT
#1669
FUCK YEAH, shiny Roggenrola out of nowhere :D
noobcakes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
April 05 2011 03:41 GMT
#1670
Pokemon red and blue FOR THE WIN!
Professional BattleCraft Player
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 05 2011 03:43 GMT
#1671
on the in-game run I just killed everything with ferrothorn pretty much lol, real OP

before chargestone cave I used Throh/Gigalith/Serperior
Brees on in
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 05 2011 04:55 GMT
#1672
On April 05 2011 12:29 deth2munkies wrote:
FUCK YEAH, shiny Roggenrola out of nowhere :D



iv played every generation multiple times
and never even seen one.
i think they dont exist and they are just a giant troll among you uber pokemon players making fun of non uber pokemon players like myself.


IM ON TO YOU.
ak1knight
Profile Joined April 2010
United States313 Posts
April 05 2011 05:02 GMT
#1673
On April 05 2011 13:55 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 12:29 deth2munkies wrote:
FUCK YEAH, shiny Roggenrola out of nowhere :D



iv played every generation multiple times
and never even seen one.
i think they dont exist and they are just a giant troll among you uber pokemon players making fun of non uber pokemon players like myself.


IM ON TO YOU.

I was actually just thinking this the other day, then I looked over and saw my little brother fighting a wild shiny drillbur. He of course kills it not realizing it was shiny . Sound fake I know but it actually did happen.
w00t
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
April 05 2011 05:06 GMT
#1674
On April 05 2011 13:55 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 12:29 deth2munkies wrote:
FUCK YEAH, shiny Roggenrola out of nowhere :D



iv played every generation multiple times
and never even seen one.
i think they dont exist and they are just a giant troll among you uber pokemon players making fun of non uber pokemon players like myself.


IM ON TO YOU.

there was this one time i booted up my sapphire version for old time's sake
my friend wants to play, so i give it to him
he ends up landing 40 sheer colds in a row without any accuracy boosts, then finding a shiny linoone once he's run out of pp and pp restoration items'
Translator:3
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
April 05 2011 12:33 GMT
#1675
On April 05 2011 09:21 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 09:11 LazyMacro wrote:
Questions:

When is the earliest I can trade Pok�mon? I have both Black and White and want to get all the starters on one game.

What's GTS? And RNG?

GTS = Global Trade Station. It's basically online trading.

RNG = Random number generator. When people get pissed about them losing because a 90% acc attack missed or because they got critically hit, they blame RNG.

You can trade after you do the thing with Fennel I think.

I just got the game, FC is 0647-5822-9089

You can also abuse the RNG to capture and breed perfectly IV'd Pokemon with the desired Nature and Ability you want. It's quite commonly used.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 05 2011 16:56 GMT
#1676
On April 05 2011 13:55 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 12:29 deth2munkies wrote:
FUCK YEAH, shiny Roggenrola out of nowhere :D



iv played every generation multiple times
and never even seen one.
i think they dont exist and they are just a giant troll among you uber pokemon players making fun of non uber pokemon players like myself.


IM ON TO YOU.

I've done the same thing. I've seen 3 shinys that entire time, a rattata, an Absol, and this one.
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
April 05 2011 19:31 GMT
#1677
Shinys are pretty easy in gen IV using pokéradar.
otherwis randomly i never had one
SockArms
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 20:23:48
April 05 2011 20:15 GMT
#1678
Ok, I kinda wanna try competitive pokemon I just beat the E4 and I've been searching all over the internet on how to get started and it's all in this mumbojumbo I don't get I don't have internet at my place so I have to get everything on my own I was hoping that someone would be able to help me out bit by bit building a team and understanding how to play!!!


thanks!

edit: I have black and tons of spare time
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LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
April 05 2011 20:34 GMT
#1679
So if I have the Liberty Pass for Victini and start a new game do I lose the pass? Like, I downloaded the pass but didn't start a game yet. I want to get the fire starter, trade it tomy Black copy, then start White over and get the other starter I haven't seen yet.
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 21:04:38
April 05 2011 21:03 GMT
#1680
I can't edit my post using the Android app for some reason... o.o

Anyways, what do you guys think of Purrloin? It's the first wild Pokmon you meet that isn't a normal type, and having a dark type is useful for the final four.

Also, I've been very unsure of how to manage different moves while leveling. I don't want too many moves of the same type on one Pokmon, but whenever a new move is learned, I'm not sure of how to judge moves and know which moves should be kept, replaced, or given up on.

Any advice?
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