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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 03 2011 21:45 GMT
#1641
I think that N's name is really short for Nuzlocke.

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He always has different Pokes when you fight him. For instance, I just faced him in Chargestone Cave in Black, and his team was:

Boldore
Joltik
Klink
Ferroseed

All Pokes that appear there.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 17:24:58
April 04 2011 17:23 GMT
#1642
On April 01 2011 13:38 Blisse wrote:
Breeding should usually be done in this order.
Egg Moves -> Nature -> IVs -> EVs -> Level 100


Rule of thumb: if a Pokemon gains experience, it gains EVs as well.

Battle Subway and Player WiFi Battles do not give experience, and therefore have no effect on EVs.

You don't gain experience through Rare Candies or the Daycare either. You gain levels. That's why when you use a Rare Candy or the Daycare, the Pokemon is always at 0% experience to the next level.

Every other battle in the game will give EVs, including Elite 4, random encounters, Trainer Battles, Gym Leaders and Boss Battles.

This also means Exp. Share will share the EVs. Both the Pokemon battling and the Pokemon receiving the Experience will get the same number of EVs. The EVs are not split. If the Pokemon normally gives 2 Speed EVs, both Pokemon will receive 2 Speed EVs. If the whole team has Exp. Share, they will all receive 2 Speed EVs.


Actually it doesn't matter if you get level 100 before you maxed out EVs anymore (as of Gen 5), since stats gained from EVs are added immediately upon gaining the EVs now, instead of when you gain a level (the way it was in 4th gen and prior). So if you wanted to, you could level to 100, zero out your EVs (or have leveled via daycare/rare candy) and then EV train the appropriate stats.

Not that there's much point to leveling to 100 anyway.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 04 2011 17:35 GMT
#1643
On April 03 2011 23:19 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 17:43 Avaloch wrote:
I was wondering, how can you get a Reshiram or a Zekrom below the level you catch it? I've seen so many offers on the GTS asking for those 2 Pokémon below level 9.

IIRC, there is a cloning glitch you could do via the GTS, which is why people ask for impossible Pokemon. I forget how to do it though. =(


It's like really hard because you need to time it perfectly but the basic idea is to reset the DS a second before the gts transferring animation,If you do it right you will have the pokemon in your party and also in the gts
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
April 04 2011 19:19 GMT
#1644
On April 05 2011 02:23 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 13:38 Blisse wrote:
Breeding should usually be done in this order.
Egg Moves -> Nature -> IVs -> EVs -> Level 100


Rule of thumb: if a Pokemon gains experience, it gains EVs as well.

Battle Subway and Player WiFi Battles do not give experience, and therefore have no effect on EVs.

You don't gain experience through Rare Candies or the Daycare either. You gain levels. That's why when you use a Rare Candy or the Daycare, the Pokemon is always at 0% experience to the next level.

Every other battle in the game will give EVs, including Elite 4, random encounters, Trainer Battles, Gym Leaders and Boss Battles.

This also means Exp. Share will share the EVs. Both the Pokemon battling and the Pokemon receiving the Experience will get the same number of EVs. The EVs are not split. If the Pokemon normally gives 2 Speed EVs, both Pokemon will receive 2 Speed EVs. If the whole team has Exp. Share, they will all receive 2 Speed EVs.


Actually it doesn't matter if you get level 100 before you maxed out EVs anymore (as of Gen 5), since stats gained from EVs are added immediately upon gaining the EVs now, instead of when you gain a level (the way it was in 4th gen and prior). So if you wanted to, you could level to 100, zero out your EVs (or have leveled via daycare/rare candy) and then EV train the appropriate stats.

Not that there's much point to leveling to 100 anyway.



What do you mean? so, say if I had a raichu and he was level 15 and I fully EV trained him, he would gain stats as I ev trained him and not the level? so if u have a level 70 tyrantitar EV'd he would have all of the EVs before 100?
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
April 04 2011 19:28 GMT
#1645
On April 05 2011 04:19 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 02:23 sylverfyre wrote:
On April 01 2011 13:38 Blisse wrote:
Breeding should usually be done in this order.
Egg Moves -> Nature -> IVs -> EVs -> Level 100


Rule of thumb: if a Pokemon gains experience, it gains EVs as well.

Battle Subway and Player WiFi Battles do not give experience, and therefore have no effect on EVs.

You don't gain experience through Rare Candies or the Daycare either. You gain levels. That's why when you use a Rare Candy or the Daycare, the Pokemon is always at 0% experience to the next level.

Every other battle in the game will give EVs, including Elite 4, random encounters, Trainer Battles, Gym Leaders and Boss Battles.

This also means Exp. Share will share the EVs. Both the Pokemon battling and the Pokemon receiving the Experience will get the same number of EVs. The EVs are not split. If the Pokemon normally gives 2 Speed EVs, both Pokemon will receive 2 Speed EVs. If the whole team has Exp. Share, they will all receive 2 Speed EVs.


Actually it doesn't matter if you get level 100 before you maxed out EVs anymore (as of Gen 5), since stats gained from EVs are added immediately upon gaining the EVs now, instead of when you gain a level (the way it was in 4th gen and prior). So if you wanted to, you could level to 100, zero out your EVs (or have leveled via daycare/rare candy) and then EV train the appropriate stats.

Not that there's much point to leveling to 100 anyway.



What do you mean? so, say if I had a raichu and he was level 15 and I fully EV trained him, he would gain stats as I ev trained him and not the level? so if u have a level 70 tyrantitar EV'd he would have all of the EVs before 100?


i think he meant that online play your pokemon will go to lv 100 in battles
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LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
April 05 2011 00:11 GMT
#1646
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 00:21:41
April 05 2011 00:21 GMT
#1647
On April 05 2011 09:11 LazyMacro wrote:
Questions:

When is the earliest I can trade Pok�mon? I have both Black and White and want to get all the starters on one game.

What's GTS? And RNG?

GTS = Global Trade Station. It's basically online trading.

RNG = Random number generator. When people get pissed about them losing because a 90% acc attack missed or because they got critically hit, they blame RNG.

You can trade after you do the thing with Fennel I think.

I just got the game, FC is 0647-5822-9089
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 05 2011 00:53 GMT
#1648
I'm annoyed that I can never play Pokemon games against my friend. The infrared connection never links up, and we can't connect to the wifi either. Seriously Game Freak. Was going to troll him with a Rain Dance team...
There is no one like you in the universe.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 05 2011 01:03 GMT
#1649
can anyone hook me up with a dragon pokemon ?
i need a decent one to fight the last dragon type gym.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
April 05 2011 01:06 GMT
#1650
On April 05 2011 10:03 Coagulation wrote:
can anyone hook me up with a dragon pokemon ?
i need a decent one to fight the last dragon type gym.


you didnt get an ice move? I dont think anything in that gym resist ice beam. That or a nice steel type, and just set up. my cryognal outsped everything there, but dont go looking for it, not worth it. you trip over good steel types before that gym. Wouldnt suggest a dragon unless you can outspeed everythnig there. Haxorus is a bitch
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 05 2011 01:07 GMT
#1651
dont have any ice pokemon or steel types leveled up anywhere near enough
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 05 2011 01:20 GMT
#1652
On April 05 2011 10:03 Coagulation wrote:
can anyone hook me up with a dragon pokemon ?
i need a decent one to fight the last dragon type gym.


Trust me it's really easy.

Maybe that's just me though. I mean, Iris was dumb enough to let my Excadrill setup with Swords Dance >.>
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 05 2011 01:32 GMT
#1653
im not a pokemon EV IV Training UBER POKE user only like you guys.
I know shit about battling.
Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
April 05 2011 01:33 GMT
#1654
Maybe that's just me though. I mean, Iris was dumb enough to let my Excadrill setup with Swords Dance >.>


I used my Darmanitan with Bellydrum>Superpower which is pretty much the same thing, love how the dragon dance almost every turn they get, or else it wouldn't work lol
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 05 2011 01:36 GMT
#1655
On April 05 2011 10:33 Laids wrote:
Show nested quote +
Maybe that's just me though. I mean, Iris was dumb enough to let my Excadrill setup with Swords Dance >.>
Show nested quote +


I used my Darmanitan with Bellydrum>Superpower which is pretty much the same thing, love how the dragon dance almost every turn they get, or else it wouldn't work lol


Yeah, they'd just keep Dragon Dancing, meaning my Excadrill could sweep them all with a +6 STAB Earthquake :D

@ Coagulation: This was in-game. No EV training or breeding involved lol.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 01:55:21
April 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#1656
You guys haven't trolled unless you've used one of these teams.

+ Show Spoiler +

Ninetales (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- SolarBeam
- Psyshock
- Dark Pulse

Durant (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Retaliate
- Entrainment
- X-Scissor
- Iron Head

Magnezone @ Starf Berry
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 12 HP / 252 SAtk / 246 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Protect
- Recycle
- Flash Cannon

Chandelure (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower

Magikarp (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash

Feebas (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash


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Infernape (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Assist
- Protect
- Roar

Smeargle (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Assist

Drapion (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roar
- Protect
- Thief

Liepard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Assist
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

Persian (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Limber
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Hardy Nature
- Assist
- Roar
- Snatch
- Protect

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Protect
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Antedelerium
Profile Joined June 2010
United States224 Posts
April 05 2011 01:39 GMT
#1657
On April 05 2011 10:32 Coagulation wrote:
im not a pokemon EV IV Training UBER POKE user only like you guys.
I know shit about battling.


If you're not serious, just grab a cubchoo or vanillite and level them up a little bit. It doesn't take that long and you can pretty easily one shot most of the gym leader's pokemon.
"Isn't it ironic to yell the word silence?" ~B.C.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
April 05 2011 01:42 GMT
#1658
On April 05 2011 10:37 infinitestory wrote:
You guys haven't trolled unless you've used one of these teams.

+ Show Spoiler +

Ninetales (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- SolarBeam
- Psyshock
- Dark Pulse

Durant (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Retaliate
- Entrainment
- X-Scissor
- Iron Head

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power

Chandelure (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower

Magikarp (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash

Feebas (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash


+ Show Spoiler +

Infernape (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Assist
- Protect
- Roar

Smeargle (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Assist

Drapion (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roar
- Protect
- Thief

Liepard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Assist
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

Persian (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Limber
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Hardy Nature
- Assist
- Roar
- Snatch
- Protect

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Protect


LOL Entrainment Truant Durant, I love it.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 05 2011 01:42 GMT
#1659
I Refuse to use vanillite

Fucking ice cream cone pokemon????
CMON..
I die a little inside everytime i see that little snot nosed bear also.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 01:47:21
April 05 2011 01:47 GMT
#1660
On April 05 2011 10:42 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:37 infinitestory wrote:
You guys haven't trolled unless you've used one of these teams.

+ Show Spoiler +

Ninetales (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- SolarBeam
- Psyshock
- Dark Pulse

Durant (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Truant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Retaliate
- Entrainment
- X-Scissor
- Iron Head

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power

Chandelure (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Flame Charge
- Flamethrower

Magikarp (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash

Feebas (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs:
Hardy Nature
- Splash


+ Show Spoiler +

Infernape (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Assist
- Protect
- Roar

Smeargle (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Trick
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Assist

Drapion (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Whirlwind
- Roar
- Protect
- Thief

Liepard (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Assist
- Sucker Punch
- Protect
- Substitute

Persian (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Limber
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Hardy Nature
- Assist
- Roar
- Snatch
- Protect

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roar
- Whirlwind
- Protect


LOL Entrainment Truant Durant, I love it.

that's not even the best part
the idea is you let them kill your durant, then go into chandelure
alternate using protect and calm mind until you are +6 SpA
then do that with flame charge to get as much Spd as possible

i edited my post to include magnezone instead of heatran - the magnezone i put can get +6 in all stats reliably if your killer is a steel type


for the other team, all you need to know is that assist can get roar, whirlwind, etc. and negates the -6 priority from phaze moves, so liepard's assist is (most of the time) a priority phaze
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