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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 20 2013 02:00 GMT
#3001
why wont steam put BNW on sale
snarl
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada812 Posts
July 20 2013 02:08 GMT
#3002
On July 20 2013 11:00 johnnywup wrote:
why wont steam put BNW on sale

They did, and there was outrage from the pre-purchasers who paid more than the sale price when the game was only out for a week at the time. Steam had to apologize and gave those who pre-purchased BNW a copy of Civ 4 afaik. Doubt BNW is going on sale again.
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
July 20 2013 02:23 GMT
#3003
The game was out for 12h for anyone outside of north america.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 02:39:23
July 20 2013 02:39 GMT
#3004
On July 20 2013 10:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So if Christianity was split into differing "religions" or ideologues why wasn't Islam I wonder...

because about 2/3s of AIs would pick Christianity when they founded a religion, so CiV developers thought it's kinda lame so they split it up.
I mean, like, grand total of 1 civ (or 0?) has Taoism as their favourite choice I think.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
July 20 2013 03:08 GMT
#3005
On July 19 2013 06:32 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 15:42 Kmatt wrote:
I hate it when I do an early war only to find out that the Chinese and Iroquois are an era ahead of me on their private islands wonderspamming while I have the Great Wall of EveryOtherCivInGame to cross to reach them.

I will never again question China's "God Tier" ai status.


That's why you don't play on Continents. It's dumb.


I use the random map one, but it tends to make a pangea map or give the hardest AI's tons of space 90% of the time. Pangea just seems like it'd get boring having no naval combat ever.
We CAN have nice things
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 20 2013 04:02 GMT
#3006
On July 20 2013 12:08 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 06:32 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 18 2013 15:42 Kmatt wrote:
I hate it when I do an early war only to find out that the Chinese and Iroquois are an era ahead of me on their private islands wonderspamming while I have the Great Wall of EveryOtherCivInGame to cross to reach them.

I will never again question China's "God Tier" ai status.


That's why you don't play on Continents. It's dumb.


I use the random map one, but it tends to make a pangea map or give the hardest AI's tons of space 90% of the time. Pangea just seems like it'd get boring having no naval combat ever.


Pangaea is the way to go because the AI navel is... well, sad.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
July 20 2013 04:48 GMT
#3007
On July 20 2013 11:39 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 10:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So if Christianity was split into differing "religions" or ideologues why wasn't Islam I wonder...

because about 2/3s of AIs would pick Christianity when they founded a religion, so CiV developers thought it's kinda lame so they split it up.
I mean, like, grand total of 1 civ (or 0?) has Taoism as their favourite choice I think.


I think it was the same with Zoroastarianism, only Persia would pick it up and that would never happen because they rarely go religious. Tengriism too for that matter
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
July 20 2013 19:19 GMT
#3008
On July 20 2013 08:40 sur_reaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 06:57 Nick! wrote:
Any cheaper than steam keys you guys know of? Or should I just grab it from steam?


BNW? You can get it from GMG with a 30% off voucher GMG30-LY2G6-UKDYY.


Thank you for this, having missed the sale on first day and anxiously checking other places I had completely forgotten GMG. Ah I can already see how I'm cursing tomorrow I didn't see this on Friday.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18218 Posts
July 20 2013 21:15 GMT
#3009
Okay, I must be stupid, but I can't figure out why I haven't won:
[image loading]

I mean. I threw 6 atom bombs on Sweden because I thought I had won, but the game didn't end when I took Stockholm :/ I even waited a turn. Has the domination VC changed and you now have to actually take everybody else's capital?

/confused.
Ana_
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland453 Posts
July 20 2013 21:47 GMT
#3010
On July 21 2013 06:15 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I must be stupid, but I can't figure out why I haven't won:
[image loading]

I mean. I threw 6 atom bombs on Sweden because I thought I had won, but the game didn't end when I took Stockholm :/ I even waited a turn. Has the domination VC changed and you now have to actually take everybody else's capital?

/confused.

You have to control all the original capitals to win.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18218 Posts
July 21 2013 04:29 GMT
#3011
Okay, then fuck Lizzy. She was nagging me for peace before I even took London. Then, when I did, I decided peace was fine. Now I have to wait for the bloody peace treaty to expire so I can capture Thebes and Madrid. I also decided to liberate Memphis, while it would have been the ideal base for that war :/

I checked the ingame civilopedia and it doesn't say this. Was this change documented at all? :/
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 21 2013 04:43 GMT
#3012
Peace Treaties have always lasted 10 turns and they warn you when you try to break them that you can't for X remaining turns.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2013 05:35 GMT
#3013
The AI still doesn't trade. Japan and Germany are worthless. City routes are worth more than overland trade routes. Portugal is very weak, the UU and UA are half ass at best. Religious pressure seems borked.

When is the patch coming?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
July 21 2013 12:10 GMT
#3014
Yay! Won my first game on Diety. Rolled random and got Egypt also on random map, easy and secluded spot sandwiched by two CS's I made allies and never went to war ending in a Diplo victory. Russia was pushing culture hard, but was able to get enough tourism to counter. Started wide with Liberty then grew a tall and well fed capital when I couldn't expand more.
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 21 2013 12:20 GMT
#3015
I won a science victory on deity yesterday too, played as Indonesia, unfortunately got only 1 city on river, didn't get to build a single swordsman and there were no other continents/islands to settle cities on. Tried the send-food-to-capital strat with 2 cargo ships and 1 caravan (had only 4 cities) and my capital grew to size 53 by the end of the game, lol.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18218 Posts
July 21 2013 12:37 GMT
#3016
On July 21 2013 13:43 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Peace Treaties have always lasted 10 turns and they warn you when you try to break them that you can't for X remaining turns.

Yeah, I wasn't clear. I was complaining about the fact that I had signed a peace treaty in the first place, thinking that after taking London, I was done with her and just had to take Stockholm to win. So I had to wait for the silly treaty to end.

@StealthBlue: sea routes are supposed to be better, because they are harder to protect. As for the rest: I'm not sure what the problem is with religious pressure, it seems the same as in G&K. The civs are probably not getting changed, Japan and Germany have been the same since release.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 13:45:09
July 21 2013 13:43 GMT
#3017
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 21 2013 13:56 GMT
#3018
I finally wrapped up my first game with Venice (domination, continents, immortal). Pretty much all of the conquest took place in a fairly short number of turns during the modern and atomic eras. Here are some thoughts:

Late game combat was pretty fun. I used a lot more combined arms than I ever have in a game. The AI does okay at assembling naval forces, but at no point did I see a critical mass of enemy ships that could break my attacks (I had three large attack groups that each had a ton of air support).

Autocracy kinda blows. The 2nd tier tenets are awesome, but the third tier tenets are all forgettable except to the 50-turn attack bonus.

The science pace is really slow compared to G&K.

Having Venice and Austria in the same game is super lame.

The religion spread mechanics seem off.

Submarines are too good.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 21 2013 14:08 GMT
#3019
Maddjinn in his Venice playthrough beelined factories and then picked autocracy for the double spy stealing rate. It seems to work quite well, allowing him to focus on warfare instead of science
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
July 21 2013 14:12 GMT
#3020
On July 21 2013 14:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The AI still doesn't trade. Japan and Germany are worthless. City routes are worth more than overland trade routes. Portugal is very weak, the UU and UA are half ass at best. Religious pressure seems borked.

When is the patch coming?


Yeah. What the hell is wrong with the AI when it comes to trading? I can offer 5 things, while requesting 1, and they still tell me no. I don't get that at all.
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