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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 03 2013 05:32 GMT
#2521
So Steam says July 8th, so could we, in the US, see an unlock on the 7th?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 03 2013 05:44 GMT
#2522
My steam says it will be available 6 days from now, so if you live in the Pacific Time Zone it seems like you could get it on Monday at around 8-9 pm...
zuqbu
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany797 Posts
July 03 2013 08:20 GMT
#2523
how big are the odds of BNW being part of the inevitable summer sale? otherwise i might just preorder it now.
o_O
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 10:31:53
July 03 2013 10:31 GMT
#2524
On July 03 2013 17:20 zuqbu wrote:
how big are the odds of BNW being part of the inevitable summer sale? otherwise i might just preorder it now.


No chance.

Closest sales for BNW would the late 2013 sales. But I think GMG may have a 25% coupon ?
Try this at GMG maybe http://blog.playfire.com/2013/06/are-you-keane-for-new-code.html

Otherwise you still get a 10% cut for preordering on steam I believe.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Vault Boy
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany131 Posts
July 03 2013 10:33 GMT
#2525
On July 03 2013 17:20 zuqbu wrote:
how big are the odds of BNW being part of the inevitable summer sale? otherwise i might just preorder it now.


Got mine for 9.99€ here
http://www.kinguin.net/catalog/category/view/s/sid-meier-s-civilization-v-brave-new-world-steam-gift/id/1422/

Its up to 13.99€ right now.
zuqbu
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany797 Posts
July 03 2013 12:15 GMT
#2526
On July 03 2013 19:31 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 17:20 zuqbu wrote:
how big are the odds of BNW being part of the inevitable summer sale? otherwise i might just preorder it now.


No chance.

Closest sales for BNW would the late 2013 sales. But I think GMG may have a 25% coupon ?
Try this at GMG maybe http://blog.playfire.com/2013/06/are-you-keane-for-new-code.html

Otherwise you still get a 10% cut for preordering on steam I believe.


On July 03 2013 19:33 Vault Boy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 17:20 zuqbu wrote:
how big are the odds of BNW being part of the inevitable summer sale? otherwise i might just preorder it now.


Got mine for 9.99€ here
http://www.kinguin.net/catalog/category/view/s/sid-meier-s-civilization-v-brave-new-world-steam-gift/id/1422/

Its up to 13.99€ right now.


thank you both! preordering tonight, next week can't come soon enough
o_O
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 23:37:09
July 03 2013 21:45 GMT
#2527
mad djin is doing a Brave New World play through with the Shoshone http://www.twitch.tv/maddjinn/new

Some things noticed, he has a CB on turn 25 -- pathfinder! -- . Petra gives you an extra trade route and free caravan instead of free amptheteater. New Natural wonders: Lake Victoria 6 food. Mines of King Solomon: 6 hammers.
Lighthouse now gives you hammer for sea resources work as well as food.
The value that the ai has for gold has been adjusted, 1 gold per turn for 30 turns is worth 30 gold.
They are tuned to take gold per turn for trade instead of lump sums of gold.

Also holy crap, he almost has no money, no more buying settlers in mass via tradition. Seems like the ai loaning you money still works, without any kind of time discount for money. So he sold 40 gold per turn to get 1200 lump.

tiles and luxiries being worked are now more valuable than settling ontop of them because there is so little gold available on the map otherwise.
There is now an "Eastern Orthodoxy" religion

roads and caravansarai extend the range of your caravan route.
trade route gold does not add to your income base for the purposes of markets/banks/wonders that increase your gold per turn as % of your income
great merchants boost trade route gold via their custom house

new pantheon belief: +2 faith for each gem or perals. reformation beliefs: evanglism turns your missionary into a quasi-inquistor that erodes the pressure-per-turn off your cities. heathen conversion: convert neighboring barbarians to your religion, which will make them your slaves. jesuit education -- faith buy science buildings.
religions fervor -- holy warriors for industrial era and onward.
sacred sites -- all buildings purchased with faith provide two tourism each
to the glory of god -- use faith to purchase any type of great person starting in the industrial era
unity of prophets -- other religions inquistors and prophets reduce your religious presence by half instead of eliminating


War is much more expensive, and you cant do trade routes to a civ you are at war and they can pillage your trade routes.

International Games -- highest hammer contribution to the competition gives you a tourism bonus for 20 turns and a free social policy if you win the gold. If you win silver you get extra 3 happiness and one time increase of 30 influence with city states. An extra 3 happiness if you just show up.
If you win gold, you get the other two rewards too.


World Congress can make a world religion, holy city gets extra 50% tourism, all civs with the same religion get more voting delegates, the religion spreads faster.

Internet is a new tech, it doubles your tourism output. There is no UN building anymore, World Congress takes its place, the name can be changed to anything.

Airports and Hotels both give you +50% tourism. There is also a national wonder calle the tourism center that gets you + 100% tourism. Airport now lets you do air lifts.

You need empty slots for artifcats avaialbe *Before* you conquer a city, if you dont have empty slots for the art of the conquered, the art will disappear forever.

Without defensive tourism you get massive civil disorder. -26 happiness for Songhai on his game play through.
Cities start flipping after -20. They will flip to the most dominant-cuture-guy's ideology. So MadDjin was freedom, at war with -21 Denmark. If one of the Dane cities flips, it would go to the nearest Freedom Ideology city, whether its MadDjins or not.

the ai handicap has been changed, there is a default level instead of just setting the ai bonus to chieftain level and then scaled up to difficulty.

Great Musicians will grant you a tourism boon that is equivalent to your tourism output. Akin to the way Great Scientists beaker boost is related to your research output per turn. It has the ability called "concert tour", it will shoot off its tourism attack not only at a specific city but also 20% of its tourism attack will hit the other cities.
The goal is to get your tourism output higher than their cultural output, once your tourism output beats their cultural output its forever stuck that way, so once someone's culture is influential over you you cant reverse that without a war.

The Great Gallasea has both ranged and melee attack.

here is his channel, and it will be updated after the show is over. Episode 20 is what you want. http://www.youtube.com/show/beyondthemonument
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 23:24:23
July 03 2013 23:11 GMT
#2528
-80happiness due to influence that's pretty brutal Guess you don't have much of a choice but change ideology if it happens.

Maddjinn really should broadcast without movement off -.- Those turn times are so slow :/
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 03 2013 23:35 GMT
#2529
damn, after watching this iam feeling the hype and he didnt even play as Venice.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
July 03 2013 23:38 GMT
#2530
On July 04 2013 08:35 Sub40APM wrote:
damn, after watching this iam feeling the hype and he didnt even play as Venice.


He ll do a LP ofit dont know when it starts though.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 03 2013 23:40 GMT
#2531
Seems like he said he is doing it after the release because his next video is scheduled at midnight and will be the scramble for Africa.
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
July 04 2013 00:07 GMT
#2532
Steam says July 8th release, but it also says in 5 days and 4 hours left CST. That's means in my time zone, it's Monday July 8th at 11pm. So really a July 9th release.
Oghren .
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany33 Posts
July 04 2013 00:43 GMT
#2533
EU Release is 12th. So I have to play the first days with Proxy.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
July 04 2013 00:55 GMT
#2534
Mostly Shoshone and overall early gameplay, and also late game culture/diplomacy with portugal.

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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 04 2013 01:06 GMT
#2535
you get 3 ruins per choise for the pathfinder. So if you find a weapon upgrade, you have to pick two other kind of rewards and then you get another weapons upgrade!
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
July 04 2013 01:12 GMT
#2536
At first, I really didn't believe that BNW would fix the horrible problems that Civ V has, but the patches give me hope.

It's probably similar to how people said the game was shit at release, but with tons and tons of patches (and an expansion) it managed to erase most of its flaws.

I think I'll wait for the Steam summer sale... in 2014
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 03:54:31
July 04 2013 02:12 GMT
#2537
It depends on what ground you think the game was shit to begin with (a sentiment that had more to do with old civ4 players than the general player base by the way).
The game certainly got better and for me my issues with vanilla were about some broken systems and a lack of machanics. So these things got better but the game didn't do a 180.

BNW seems to me a bigger jump than G&K did and while G&K was on par to civ4 for me, BNW will cross that line (or maybe after a balance patch) (of course its only my opinion).
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 04 2013 04:52 GMT
#2538
I kind of agree, GK put in a lot of stuff I expected in Vanila -- religion and spies -- and in general was addictive enough but based on that video today the hype i feel towards BNW almost makes me believe its Civ 5.9. Of course the real jump in the next level of civ will be the one we all always wanted, a super ai. No more lame cheating, and no me having to exploit game mechanics to stay on par for the first 150 turns before I wreck things.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 04 2013 04:55 GMT
#2539
MadDjinn needs to kick his dumb co-host off the show.
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
July 04 2013 05:29 GMT
#2540
On July 04 2013 13:52 Sub40APM wrote:
I kind of agree, GK put in a lot of stuff I expected in Vanila -- religion and spies -- and in general was addictive enough but based on that video today the hype i feel towards BNW almost makes me believe its Civ 5.9. Of course the real jump in the next level of civ will be the one we all always wanted, a super ai. No more lame cheating, and no me having to exploit game mechanics to stay on par for the first 150 turns before I wreck things.



I would love to see upgrade ai and play with ai that are smart but not cheating to much. I actually like cunning and backstabing part of the current ai.
I hope we get some improvement in this area in BNW
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