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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
February 08 2010 04:34 GMT
#961
Even Jungle Mundo can run Ghost/Cleanse, if you've got full masteries and runes. + ghost gets you back into the jungle if/when you bluepill.
My biggest question with jungle Mundo is which skill to take first. Agony kills creeps quickly + you're guaranteed a camp that you can easily kill, but if you're unlucky and get golem camps you pretty much have to go back to base. Cleaver doesn't really do enough, in my experience. Masochism leaves you a lot healthier than Agony, but it's a lot slower and you're still screwed if you get 2 golems in a row.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 08 2010 08:23 GMT
#962
Hey guys what are your thoughts on Shaco? Is he taken seriously as a lvl 30s skill level champion? Should I invest time into getting good with him or just stick with Mundo?
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 08:49:30
February 08 2010 08:48 GMT
#963
He's the best pusher in the game, because he's the only hero that can play outside of a 5v5 and not get faceplanted all the time. But you tend to need a team that understands that he's utter garbage in a 5v5 teamfight and can stay mobile to keep up with the enemy's movements as they're forced back and forth countering a Shaco push.

... or you can play him as an AP nuker and be a nuker in team fights.

Mundo, on the other hand, is a joke in level 30 games, because Executioner's Calling gg's his ult.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 08 2010 09:45 GMT
#964
Whats the best tank for lvl 30s skill level?

I really dont want to have to start playing another champ when im level 30 for obvious reasons.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
February 08 2010 09:47 GMT
#965
got my 600th win tonight!
Thx machine for savin my life
Machine #1 alister everrrrrrr
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 08 2010 09:50 GMT
#966
On February 08 2010 18:47 Lz wrote:
got my 600th win tonight!
Thx machine for savin my life
Machine #1 alister everrrrrrr


Can you please tell me what the best tank is for high level play i wanna start gaming loool

so hyped up
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
February 08 2010 09:54 GMT
#967
On February 08 2010 18:50 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 18:47 Lz wrote:
got my 600th win tonight!
Thx machine for savin my life
Machine #1 alister everrrrrrr


Can you please tell me what the best tank is for high level play i wanna start gaming loool

so hyped up

alister IMO
depends on your team ofc but alister is pretty OP :D
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 08 2010 10:08 GMT
#968
There are so many alister guides, anyone wanna link to the best one?
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 12:59:57
February 08 2010 12:59 GMT
#969
http://www.solomid.net/forums/index.php?/topic/241-an-in-depth-look-at-alistar/

I personally play him as a support/tank and my first item really depends on my lane partner. if they need the mana, i will usually get a mana manipulator. If not, i'll get a meki pendant to later turn into a chalice. I also usually don't get like warden's mail...i usually go Merc treads -> Aegis -> Frozen heart. that's just me though ;3

some people go sheen but i prefer to just tank it upp.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 08 2010 14:03 GMT
#970
Alistair followed by a good Cho'Gath, I think.
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Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
February 08 2010 14:04 GMT
#971
On February 08 2010 18:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Whats the best tank for lvl 30s skill level?

I really dont want to have to start playing another champ when im level 30 for obvious reasons.


Nasus is one of the top tanks at top ELO ratings. Mundo and Singed are 2 other very good tanks.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
February 08 2010 14:32 GMT
#972
On February 08 2010 23:04 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 18:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Whats the best tank for lvl 30s skill level?

I really dont want to have to start playing another champ when im level 30 for obvious reasons.


Nasus is one of the top tanks at top ELO ratings. Mundo and Singed are 2 other very good tanks.


Lol what? Mundo is trash

IMO Alistar>Cho'Gath>Singed>Nasus

tho cho/singed/nasus are all really close I'd say

As for the shaco question, ask Lz to show you some pro AP shaco action lol
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
February 08 2010 14:49 GMT
#973
From the recent tier lists I looked at, Malphite and Amumu are also high tier, but not as high as Alistar.
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Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
February 08 2010 15:03 GMT
#974
Nowadays in High Elo, Alistar is the most popular followed by Rammus. I think most people agree Malphite and Amumu are on the same level as Rammus, but they aren't as popular. Cho'goth and Nasus are both also unpopular, but viable. Mundo and Singed are only good in unorganized play, and pretty much never picked in a tournament setting.

Most Shacos actually don't backdoor or push that much (The good ones anyways) but they rely very heavily on jungling, ganking and snowballing the game
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 15:29:47
February 08 2010 15:23 GMT
#975
yea, I dunno why it took so long for someone to say Rammus, Malphite and Amumu... from my experience I'm pretty sure they're 2, 3, and 4 behind Alistar. Though, to be fair, I'm still only in the mid 20s and not completely up to speed with the competitive metagame.

EDIT: and for what it's worth, I don't think you really need to switch characters at all for just playing queues. Even a lot of level 30s are sufficiently bad that you can overcome a lower tier character if you're good enough with them. You'd only need to worry about switching if you wanted to get into serious arranged 5v5s, IMO.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 08 2010 16:29 GMT
#976
Pro'gath mid all day, baby, take smite and flash for sick amounts of flash feast and rod rushing. I usually go sapphire crystal + 1 health/1 mana pot and go wraith off the bat, rupture at 1:38 and target the smaller ones then smite the big one when you take a few hits for his passive regen. If you do it right you take little to no damage and only have to rupture once. Run to the mid and rupture the opponent off the bat and get a couple creep kills, get to like level 8 or 9 before getting a flash feast kill while constantly smiting the siege minion, creeping the wraiths on both sides whenever possible and regenerating with rupture/spines while stacking feast, then port back and grab a catalyst, basic boots, and a blue elixir. Focus on farming and feasting to 6 stacks for a couple more minutes and I usually get a rod or warmog's by 14:00 (greed and improved smite mastery). After that you just run around catching sick ruptures and flash feasts for ganks while creeping the buffs aggressively with rupture/smite and improving to boots of mobility and nashor's tooth/frozen heart/warmog's/force of nature/banshee's veil, depending on the other team, then try not to die while you let your teammates catch up in level to you, because you'll be like 16-17 when everyone else is around 12 or 13. Flash gets you out of so many sticky situations that you pretty much never want to use it to flash feast into a teamfight. You're better off landing a rupture and running up to them, scream at the disablers and casters when you feel like it, and feast aggressively, especially if they run. Flashing into a running team is not a problem if you're sure you're going to feast a squishy character, but otherwise just be happy that your team won the fight and take the tower.

How I play 100% of my good chogath games. Practice your skillshots :D.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
February 08 2010 18:10 GMT
#977
nasus is hardly a tank unless you gear him out to be one, in which anyone can be a tank. hes pretty much the only viable melee DPS besides shaco, but he is hurt pretty hard from executioner's as well.
Brees on in
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
February 08 2010 18:35 GMT
#978
On February 09 2010 03:10 Brees wrote:
nasus is hardly a tank unless you gear him out to be one, in which anyone can be a tank. hes pretty much the only viable melee DPS besides shaco, but he is hurt pretty hard from executioner's as well.


Nasus is easily one of my favorite champions these days, but yes, exec calling or the new pirate hurts him sooo badly.

My worst nightmare is pretty much laning vs a pirate with exec calling. Makes me *totally* unable to heal.

I am still raging that they decided that parley inflicts grog-soaked wound T_T;
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 08 2010 19:00 GMT
#979
On February 09 2010 03:35 Haemonculus wrote:
My worst nightmare is pretty much laning vs a pirate with exec calling. Makes me *totally* unable to heal.


I don't think the effect stacks anymo', so that'd be redundant on his part.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
February 08 2010 20:39 GMT
#980
On February 09 2010 04:00 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2010 03:35 Haemonculus wrote:
My worst nightmare is pretty much laning vs a pirate with exec calling. Makes me *totally* unable to heal.


I don't think the effect stacks anymo', so that'd be redundant on his part.


Nono, they do. I've played vs it. Usually as nasus by about lvl 5 or so I have roughly 35 hp regen / 5. Each time he shoots me with parley, it drops to 0. Yes, zero.

As in, I"M TAKING DPS BUT I CAN'T HEAL AT ALL. I can't drink potions, because they are also effectively at 0% efficiency, and I can't heal on mobs because my inherent lifesteal also drops to nothing. And the parley cooldown is less than the duration of both effects.

Very bad manner.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
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