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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 08 2010 20:47 GMT
#981
Hmmmmmm, I guess I misread it, or something. I thought they made it so healing reduction doesn't stack, but I guess it still does.

That sucks >_>
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 08 2010 21:27 GMT
#982
On February 08 2010 17:48 Southlight wrote:
He's the best pusher in the game, because he's the only hero that can play outside of a 5v5 and not get faceplanted all the time. But you tend to need a team that understands that he's utter garbage in a 5v5 teamfight and can stay mobile to keep up with the enemy's movements as they're forced back and forth countering a Shaco push.

... or you can play him as an AP nuker and be a nuker in team fights.

Mundo, on the other hand, is a joke in level 30 games, because Executioner's Calling gg's his ult.


Yeah pls don't listen to this. I don't know what people are saying Shaco is a pusher hero. He's god awful at pushing until he gets huge farm...which he is supposed to get by ganking people and floating with jungle buffs. Shaco should never be played as a solo pusher in a lane. That's a total waste of his abilities.
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
February 08 2010 22:54 GMT
#983
On February 09 2010 06:27 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 17:48 Southlight wrote:
He's the best pusher in the game, because he's the only hero that can play outside of a 5v5 and not get faceplanted all the time. But you tend to need a team that understands that he's utter garbage in a 5v5 teamfight and can stay mobile to keep up with the enemy's movements as they're forced back and forth countering a Shaco push.

... or you can play him as an AP nuker and be a nuker in team fights.

Mundo, on the other hand, is a joke in level 30 games, because Executioner's Calling gg's his ult.


Yeah pls don't listen to this. I don't know what people are saying Shaco is a pusher hero. He's god awful at pushing until he gets huge farm...which he is supposed to get by ganking people and floating with jungle buffs. Shaco should never be played as a solo pusher in a lane. That's a total waste of his abilities.

i agree.. dps shaco is a ganker not pusher.. AP shaco is best with team work to make the best possible outcome trap's using jackinbox's and ofc nuker shiv
but one thing shaco is not.. is a pusher lol
.ten
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden11 Posts
February 09 2010 00:42 GMT
#984
I've been playing LoL since the late beta. I mostly play AP Jax and I think I'm fairly good at it.
If you want to play with me, you should add me as a friend! ^_^
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To me, Starcraft's just a game. ...like love.
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 02:05:28
February 09 2010 02:05 GMT
#985
can you give a little more input about how you play Jax? i took a look at his skills, but still no clue.
3150 points are quite an investment for a new player like me, so i wanna be sure that i like it :D
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
February 09 2010 02:11 GMT
#986
AP Jax? loool.
that doens't sound right >>
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 09 2010 02:23 GMT
#987
AP Jax synergizes with his ult really well. He still needs a lot of attack speed items but he'll hit like a truck with AP. In general though, I think Jax has been obsolete as a hero since release. The AOE spam kind of made him an impotent monkey. And with how dodge has diminishing returns now and divine sword out there, Jax just doesn't seem to get the job done half as well as some other heroes can.
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
February 09 2010 03:03 GMT
#988
Jax, right now, sucks. He has nothing that could make me want to pick him up, he does mediocre dps, and mediocre burst. He can't tank and as long as you don't attack him he won't stun you. Totally ignorable in a team fight until he's the last one left.
u gotta sk8
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
February 09 2010 03:24 GMT
#989
Corvi Jax is considered underpowered and easily countered at high level play, just to warn you if you plan on doing 5 man premades and raising your ELO. I played him since closed beta when he was considered hella overpowered, but now I regret having spent 3k IP on him.

I've seen AP Jax builds though I haven't used them. Playing against it made me feel like it relies on Empower and Leap Strike for burst, and then Relentless Strikes if he has a chance for sustained dps. Since good teams won't let melee dps like Jax or Yi go to town on them, AP Jax seems to offer more to team fights with his higher burst.

On Shaco as a pusher, I've played a few games that correlated with this thread:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=56493.

He's a mad pain in the ass even with Oracles, plus with this strat he gets farmed. I usually saw this after the lane gank phase so I don't think it's mutually exclusive with his role as a ganker.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 09 2010 10:41 GMT
#990
Shaco gank mid at level 3-6 is SO good, even having him out of the lane forces the opponent back or risks having the mid die to a silly 2v1 with a well-timed exhaust.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Dr.Kill-Joy
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States627 Posts
February 09 2010 10:56 GMT
#991
DPS Janna. Can Push and gank. Try it
About To Ass Rape That Face Wit Some Words
mptj
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States485 Posts
February 09 2010 11:59 GMT
#992
I'm really starting to get mad at this matchmaking system. Every time I get a winning streak of two or three, instead of moving up a few skill brackets, I get lower lvl feeders on my team (im lvl 30) I get on a three game winning streak, and then I legit get a lvl 7 on my team. I mean, come on WTF. It seems like all Riot cares about is that you get a 50% win rating, no matter how they make it happen.
"Only the Good Die Young"
.ten
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden11 Posts
February 09 2010 12:39 GMT
#993
I didn't know that Jax was underpowerd. I just think he is fun to play. Maybe I sould try another champion... T_T
To me, Starcraft's just a game. ...like love.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
February 09 2010 14:16 GMT
#994
On February 09 2010 20:59 mptj wrote:
I'm really starting to get mad at this matchmaking system. Every time I get a winning streak of two or three, instead of moving up a few skill brackets, I get lower lvl feeders on my team (im lvl 30) I get on a three game winning streak, and then I legit get a lvl 7 on my team. I mean, come on WTF. It seems like all Riot cares about is that you get a 50% win rating, no matter how they make it happen.



not true at all unfortunately

I have 2 accounts and both are at least 40 wins over 50/50 you just gotta play a carry

karthus is a good example...think im like 30-3 with him. always rape their mid and then just take over the game regardless of how bad my teammates are. you need to talk with him and if they dont respond back you gotta babysit them. just takes adapting until you get competent people.
Brees on in
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
February 09 2010 14:32 GMT
#995
which hero would you recommend (excluding the 6000 p ones) to buy first for games with random teams, where teamplay can be really bad, so good dmg is often better than good crowd control.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
February 09 2010 15:00 GMT
#996
twisted fate, tristana, sivir
Brees on in
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
February 09 2010 15:06 GMT
#997
my account had twisted fate and sivir already included. isnt that standard? gonna take a look at tristana though. thx
Alchemyst
Profile Joined August 2009
United States36 Posts
February 09 2010 15:46 GMT
#998
^^ Free Champions rotate every week.

You'll have to buy them with IP or RP to keep them forever.
Fantasy and Stork Fanboy.
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 15:55:02
February 09 2010 15:52 GMT
#999
Nasus is cheapo, really good and can tank and carry team.

Take Rally / Heal + Exhaust

1. Ruby
2. Aegis
3. 1 Boots
4. Sheen
5. 2 Mercury / Dodge boots
6. Trinity
7. Starks or whateva

Take on point SS (no more) and then Spirit fire and Wither + Ult when you can.

Run in, place SF and pop Ult and watch ppl melt. Works every game. (almost)

Ashe is a solid choice as well, but you need to be more careful with her, since she is squishy.

Teleport / Flash <- mandatory

I usually go:

1. Sapphire
2. Catalyst
3. Boots
4. Pickaxe / BF sword
5. Mobility boots
6. Finish IE
7. Banshee / Last whisper

Ult, Volley, Frost shot, Plentiful bounty that is your priority. You can also lvl plentiful up, but make sure you take 1 frost and volley.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 09 2010 15:53 GMT
#1000
On February 09 2010 12:24 EchOne wrote:
On Shaco as a pusher, I've played a few games that correlated with this thread:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=56493.


Pretty much how my premade plays with TF and Shaco. *shrugs* Maybe it's a playstyle difference and one that I'm not comfortable switching out of (I'm not usually the Shaco player, though). He's one of the few heroes that can push a deep lane and not die. How is not abusing that NOT abusing his skills. + if your team has teleports he can sneak in, drop a ward for everyone to teleport to, backdoor, then recall out.
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