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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 12 2010 17:33 GMT
#1021
Does anyone know some good builds/runes to go with Sivir? I typically lead off with meki pendant/2 health pots into boots into starks then merc treads then BT sword. Been winning a ton of games at pretty high ELOs due to sivir's awesome push abilities and shuriken in team fights but I'm just wondering if anyone knows a better way to play her as I feel pretty noobish when I play. Thanks for sharing :D
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 12 2010 18:42 GMT
#1022
Meki, Boots level 1, Chalice, Emblem of Valor, Greaves, Stark's, Razor, Bloodrazor. Push, push, push. Baron if there's an opening. Pretty silly.

Runes... eh, not that important, maybe red armor pen, yellow dodge, blue -CD, quints HP or armor pen.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 12 2010 18:47 GMT
#1023
is there a way to find your elo? I'm sorta curious about how they're calculated and what mine is.
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ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
February 12 2010 19:25 GMT
#1024
If you are friendly to some of the Riot staff, they can look it up for you in #lolbeta. GL
MC Fighting!~
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 12 2010 19:33 GMT
#1025
I'm not interested enough to make friends, lol, ah well...
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
February 12 2010 21:01 GMT
#1026
On February 13 2010 02:33 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Does anyone know some good builds/runes to go with Sivir? I typically lead off with meki pendant/2 health pots into boots into starks then merc treads then BT sword. Been winning a ton of games at pretty high ELOs due to sivir's awesome push abilities and shuriken in team fights but I'm just wondering if anyone knows a better way to play her as I feel pretty noobish when I play. Thanks for sharing :D


I consider myself a pretty solid Sivir player. My build is the following:

Open with Sapphire crystal and 2 health pots. Solo mid if possible. Sivir is easily one of the best characters to solo a lane with. Abuse that. For summoner spells I always take heal and teleport. You are a farming machine, and teleport helps you do that sooo well. Heal is a fantastic 1v1 tool early game. I cannot tell you how many times someone has tried to go for an early kill on me. With heal, I often turn that early kill attempt into a first blood for me. EZ mode. (Especially vs ashe: Soon as she hits 6, she will try to kill you. You'll see her fire a volley, and then almost immediately fire her arrow. Time your spell shield to block the doom arrow, throw your boomerang at her, and lulz ensue. Pop heal if needed, and you are pretty much guaranteed the kill.)

For masteries I go 0/9/21, picking up the dodge thingies in defense, and all the usual utility stuff.

RUNES: Red: All armor pen. Yellow: All dodge. Blue: Mana regen per 5 per level. Quints: A mix of armor pen and flat hp. Awesomeness.

Anyway, open with mana crystal and 2 health pots. On your first blue pill, get your catalyst and regular boots. Start and finish starks asap. Soon as starks is finished, get merc treads and banshee's veil. Veil + your spell shield and merc treads, with your ult and heal to boot makes you incredibly hard to kill. I often find myself surviving 3-4 man ganks easily.

By mid game you have Banshee's, Merc Treads, and Starks. Obviously exchange merc treads for ninja if the enemy has no stuns or whatnot, or even zerker boots if you're feeling extra offensive. My build for Sivir focuses on surviving until this point in the game. I'll often have 0 deaths until this point.

After that, honestly I just stack BF swords. You are plenty durable, have decent enough attack speed, (especially with ur ult), and with ricochet and a few BF swords you are a soulless killing machine. Feel free to change up the items after your initial 3. Phantom dancer is hilarious on sivir, as is last whisper or anything else you want. But personally I just get 3 BF swords and hilarity ensues.

No chalice? Hell no. Chalice is for noobs and if you buy one, I will lose all respect for you, and punch you. With catalyst, mana is a non-issue. With mana regen glyphs, you will always have enough mana. Get the golem buff if you need. Spending 890 gold on a mana regenerating item just slows you down.

I know my build seems a little odd, and probably goes against what most people think, but my record speaks for itself. As of right now my record with Sivir is 104 - 47. /brag. ^.^;

Enjoy!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
February 12 2010 21:10 GMT
#1027
I generally use the same items as every other Sivir, though like most players do I mix up the build depending on the game. For instance I'll get Philosopher's Stone instead of Chalice if the enemy team lacks magic, Recurve Bow right after Meki if I've seized lane control, Merc only against a CC/magic heavy team, Aegis if my team has 2/3 tanks. Usually the game is determined by the time I get a post-Stark's item, and those are usually dictated by gameflow as well. I've been going Infinity Edge lately but Bloodthirster seems solid too since Sivir can build up stacks almost instantly. I'm greater than 2:1 W:L with Sivir, but I have no idea what ELO I am and I'm not about to guess. I play her more often in 5 man premades than elsewhere.

Some questions: I've heard that 1.) Sivir's ricochet hits (the one's after the initial attack) do not proc on hit effects, and 2.) Healing reduction affects lifesteal. Can anyone confirm this?
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
February 12 2010 21:18 GMT
#1028
On February 13 2010 06:10 EchOne wrote:
Some questions: I've heard that 1.) Sivir's ricochet hits (the one's after the initial attack) do not proc on hit effects, and 2.) Healing reduction affects lifesteal. Can anyone confirm this?


1. Ricochets do not proc any effects or lifesteal or anything remotely like that. On the plus side, they can't be dodged, and if you are blinded, they will still hit. If you are targeted with exhaust, quickly switch targets to a minion near the enemy you are trying to kill. Your initial hit will miss, but all subsequent ricochets will hit normally. You do less damage obviously, but at least you're doing *some* damage. This is especially useful against teemo.

2. Healing reduction does affect lifesteal. It's a major pain. Executioner's calling will really slow down your life gain in all ways.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Alchemyst
Profile Joined August 2009
United States36 Posts
February 13 2010 03:17 GMT
#1029
On February 12 2010 02:23 Mogwai wrote:
god... playing against campy heimers is so annoying. I think I'm pretty good at rolling them with teemo at this point, but it's still absolutely no fun and takes forever...



Hate that, especially since I play melee characters. -.-
When there's like 4 Red turrets, I just try to gank him with teammates.

Started to play Singed, I love him.
He's got the farming of Morgana and the tankiness of Alistar.
No heal though, so I'm wondering if I should use heal as my summoner spell, but then I'd be missing out on either ghost [Insane speed boost with Ghost, boots of Swiftness and Ult to chase] or tele. D:

Tips?
Fantasy and Stork Fanboy.
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
February 13 2010 03:53 GMT
#1030
Cleanse/Ghost Flash/Ghost are you 2 options really for Singed. If you cant get to the enemy ur not useful so you use summoners to counter act the slows etc.
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
February 13 2010 04:20 GMT
#1031
I agree, ghost is a must on singed, and I'd say that cleanse has more utility, so I'd use that instead of flash unless I was getting merc treads, in that case I suppose flash would be better...
u gotta sk8
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
February 13 2010 04:21 GMT
#1032
i feel flash/ghost is the way to go, just pick up merc treads instead of switness imo

flash + fling combo is amazing in lane and in teamfights to get behind enemy lines and fling their carry
Brees on in
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
February 13 2010 06:31 GMT
#1033
I am starting to play Corki and I'm almost level 30 so I wonder what's the really best rune setup you can have on it. I went for a full crit damage page since I was maining pirate and oneshotting people is funny but it got nerfed badly so I thought I would switch to something more effective. I just don't really know which runes are good on Corki at all and couldn't find any useful information on online guides.
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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
February 13 2010 07:40 GMT
#1034
with the nerf are you referring to pirate or the runes?

The nerf on the runes really wasn't that big of a deal. I still use crit damage marks when playing Shaco
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 13 2010 08:13 GMT
#1035
On February 13 2010 06:01 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2010 02:33 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Does anyone know some good builds/runes to go with Sivir? I typically lead off with meki pendant/2 health pots into boots into starks then merc treads then BT sword. Been winning a ton of games at pretty high ELOs due to sivir's awesome push abilities and shuriken in team fights but I'm just wondering if anyone knows a better way to play her as I feel pretty noobish when I play. Thanks for sharing :D


I consider myself a pretty solid Sivir player. My build is the following:

Open with Sapphire crystal and 2 health pots. Solo mid if possible. Sivir is easily one of the best characters to solo a lane with. Abuse that. For summoner spells I always take heal and teleport. You are a farming machine, and teleport helps you do that sooo well. Heal is a fantastic 1v1 tool early game. I cannot tell you how many times someone has tried to go for an early kill on me. With heal, I often turn that early kill attempt into a first blood for me. EZ mode. (Especially vs ashe: Soon as she hits 6, she will try to kill you. You'll see her fire a volley, and then almost immediately fire her arrow. Time your spell shield to block the doom arrow, throw your boomerang at her, and lulz ensue. Pop heal if needed, and you are pretty much guaranteed the kill.)

For masteries I go 0/9/21, picking up the dodge thingies in defense, and all the usual utility stuff.

RUNES: Red: All armor pen. Yellow: All dodge. Blue: Mana regen per 5 per level. Quints: A mix of armor pen and flat hp. Awesomeness.

Anyway, open with mana crystal and 2 health pots. On your first blue pill, get your catalyst and regular boots. Start and finish starks asap. Soon as starks is finished, get merc treads and banshee's veil. Veil + your spell shield and merc treads, with your ult and heal to boot makes you incredibly hard to kill. I often find myself surviving 3-4 man ganks easily.

By mid game you have Banshee's, Merc Treads, and Starks. Obviously exchange merc treads for ninja if the enemy has no stuns or whatnot, or even zerker boots if you're feeling extra offensive. My build for Sivir focuses on surviving until this point in the game. I'll often have 0 deaths until this point.

After that, honestly I just stack BF swords. You are plenty durable, have decent enough attack speed, (especially with ur ult), and with ricochet and a few BF swords you are a soulless killing machine. Feel free to change up the items after your initial 3. Phantom dancer is hilarious on sivir, as is last whisper or anything else you want. But personally I just get 3 BF swords and hilarity ensues.

No chalice? Hell no. Chalice is for noobs and if you buy one, I will lose all respect for you, and punch you. With catalyst, mana is a non-issue. With mana regen glyphs, you will always have enough mana. Get the golem buff if you need. Spending 890 gold on a mana regenerating item just slows you down.

I know my build seems a little odd, and probably goes against what most people think, but my record speaks for itself. As of right now my record with Sivir is 104 - 47. /brag. ^.^;

Enjoy!


Thank you for this! I think I will def try this out. I'm usually going meki and then straight into starks then aegis because I'm using mana regen runes. But the catalyst makes a lot more sense because the quick hp bump which I notice sivir really needs.
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
February 13 2010 09:56 GMT
#1036
On February 13 2010 15:31 iG.ClouD wrote:
I am starting to play Corki and I'm almost level 30 so I wonder what's the really best rune setup you can have on it. I went for a full crit damage page since I was maining pirate and oneshotting people is funny but it got nerfed badly so I thought I would switch to something more effective. I just don't really know which runes are good on Corki at all and couldn't find any useful information on online guides.

I like magic pen runes on corki
his q w r are all magic based attacks and they dont scale well with AP so megic pen allways helps to make your missles destroy

(this is what i use~ but i wouldnt call myself a great corki player)
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 10:35:13
February 13 2010 10:34 GMT
#1037
On February 13 2010 06:01 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 13 2010 02:33 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Does anyone know some good builds/runes to go with Sivir? I typically lead off with meki pendant/2 health pots into boots into starks then merc treads then BT sword. Been winning a ton of games at pretty high ELOs due to sivir's awesome push abilities and shuriken in team fights but I'm just wondering if anyone knows a better way to play her as I feel pretty noobish when I play. Thanks for sharing :D


I consider myself a pretty solid Sivir player. My build is the following:

Open with Sapphire crystal and 2 health pots. Solo mid if possible. Sivir is easily one of the best characters to solo a lane with. Abuse that. For summoner spells I always take heal and teleport. You are a farming machine, and teleport helps you do that sooo well. Heal is a fantastic 1v1 tool early game. I cannot tell you how many times someone has tried to go for an early kill on me. With heal, I often turn that early kill attempt into a first blood for me. EZ mode. (Especially vs ashe: Soon as she hits 6, she will try to kill you. You'll see her fire a volley, and then almost immediately fire her arrow. Time your spell shield to block the doom arrow, throw your boomerang at her, and lulz ensue. Pop heal if needed, and you are pretty much guaranteed the kill.)

For masteries I go 0/9/21, picking up the dodge thingies in defense, and all the usual utility stuff.

RUNES: Red: All armor pen. Yellow: All dodge. Blue: Mana regen per 5 per level. Quints: A mix of armor pen and flat hp. Awesomeness.

Anyway, open with mana crystal and 2 health pots. On your first blue pill, get your catalyst and regular boots. Start and finish starks asap. Soon as starks is finished, get merc treads and banshee's veil. Veil + your spell shield and merc treads, with your ult and heal to boot makes you incredibly hard to kill. I often find myself surviving 3-4 man ganks easily.

By mid game you have Banshee's, Merc Treads, and Starks. Obviously exchange merc treads for ninja if the enemy has no stuns or whatnot, or even zerker boots if you're feeling extra offensive. My build for Sivir focuses on surviving until this point in the game. I'll often have 0 deaths until this point.

After that, honestly I just stack BF swords. You are plenty durable, have decent enough attack speed, (especially with ur ult), and with ricochet and a few BF swords you are a soulless killing machine. Feel free to change up the items after your initial 3. Phantom dancer is hilarious on sivir, as is last whisper or anything else you want. But personally I just get 3 BF swords and hilarity ensues.

No chalice? Hell no. Chalice is for noobs and if you buy one, I will lose all respect for you, and punch you. With catalyst, mana is a non-issue. With mana regen glyphs, you will always have enough mana. Get the golem buff if you need. Spending 890 gold on a mana regenerating item just slows you down.

I know my build seems a little odd, and probably goes against what most people think, but my record speaks for itself. As of right now my record with Sivir is 104 - 47. /brag. ^.^;

Enjoy!


Holy fuck perfect timing I am just starting to play sivir. Thanks a lot, there are a lot of builds online but a lot of them seem iffy.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Xenixx
Profile Joined June 2008
United States499 Posts
February 13 2010 19:10 GMT
#1038
sivir so imba, look back at like page 2 I've been saying it for so long
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
February 13 2010 23:12 GMT
#1039
found a new build/setup for shaco and ive been absolutely dominating with it. so much fun.

they gave him a huge buff with the fix to jitb not misfiring anymore. red buff is now GUARANTEED. so with rally + flash i always get first blood regardless since i can double flash to finish them. its great. after that it just snowballs.
Brees on in
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 14 2010 00:08 GMT
#1040
Okay when I have time I will make an OP that includes a list of all TL IDs posted in this thread and I'll PM it to Psyonic so he can edit this OP by copy/pasting my PM.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
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