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On February 16 2010 05:59 mptj wrote:
On a side note, recently I've been feeling that tristana is the best carry in the game. When she solos, she has enough defensive moves to escape most every gank, and her range just stomps out every other character in the game.

On February 16 2010 05:54 mptj wrote:
Eve is viable in later team games, because no other champion can kill before the stun is even up. She is not viable 1v1 or anything like that, but if she can grab some kill early on, she's one of the nastiest characters in the game.

On February 16 2010 06:14 Brees wrote:


no, for many reasons.

everyone runs merc treads at high level play since CC stacking is so rampant.
magic resist...people do not build 6 attack damage items like you see in scrub games. usually a balance between survivability and damage for carries even, unless its a ranged carry like tristana/corki with good escape abilities.
eve dies in 2 hits late game if she has the damage you speak of, oracle elixir will kill her before she even touches you.

she is only viable for pubstomping, bottom line.

On February 16 2010 05:59 mptj wrote:
On a side note, recently I've been feeling that tristana is the best carry in the game. When she solos, she has enough defensive moves to escape most every gank, and her range just stomps out every other character in the game.

On February 16 2010 06:19 Southlight wrote:


Not to mention at higher levels there's a massive amount of AoE spam, combo-chain killers (Blitz, TF), and snares that make melee DPS heroes pretty much unviable. Eve has the worst of every world being a melee hero, with no escape mechanism, no way of getting close, and no survivability to eat AoE damage while being snared en route to a target. When I Udyr I'm always having to grit my teeth and just bite every bullet that flies my way - if a Fiddle ults there's no escape; if a Pantheon ults there's no escape. Unless, of course, they opt not to attack me, but wouldn't you love it if the other team opts not to attack DPS, especially one running into their team.



She has one of the strongest dps skills in the game, as it gives her pretty much max attack speed for 5 seconds. For those 5 seconds she's hands down the best carry in the game.

On February 15 2010 14:45 ShaperofDreams wrote:
whats the best teemo build, is he viable in high level play? im trying to find "my" champion

On February 16 2010 07:23 Southlight wrote:
That's because she's pure DPS, is like saying Master Yi is a horrible DPSer because he has no stuns and snares. Obviously Yi is not viable at high levels because he lacks built-in durability to offset the random damage you take as you output your damage, but that's why no pure melee DPS is viable.

Trist with Lizard buff will pretty much guarantee a kill on any hero caught in open space unless they're either a devoted 1v1 hero (Shaco, Ryze, etc.) or have been fed/farmed to be stronger (which would be the downfall of any DPS hero). In a teamfight she's supposed to sit there and output damage, at which she is the best at, in the game, particularly in the 5 seconds her skill is up.

And she doesn't need much farm; Trist with equal equipment to other similar "carry" heroes (ie. IE/LW) will do 100% more damage because of that skill, on top of her "free" 50% heal reduc, and her passive allows her to farm and push faster than most DPS carry heroes, provided you can last hit properly.

Sivir is incomparable to Trist, it sounds like comparing Taric to Trist. They're built for different things. Sivir is a great hero, but Trist is far and away the single best DPS hero in the game right now. Now, does every team need a Trist? Of course not. But if you set up a team with 4 CC spammers and you just need one hero to unload maximum damage, a good Trist is the best choice.



Teemo has to be built as a DPSer cuz they killed his shroom damage by like 25%. He's viable if you're good with him, but I don't know if he's the most efficient at what he'd have to do (ranged DPS). He's a hard counter to pretty much every physical damage character that might come mid, because his early-game damage output + blind can and will knock enemies completely out of farming range. But his effectiveness plummets against a caster mid, because you'll just end up trading damage, and so you have to know if/when your damage trumps the caster's burst damage, if you want to kill/push. His shrooms enable him to prevent most ganks, so if you can dominate mid, you can free farm like crazy with other teams hardly being able to touch you, and that lets you roll into super farm -> win.

IMO he's got the same problem as Ashe though, in that neither of them have a built-in DPS build, so he's simply not efficient at carrying - good Teemos will carry, but they're usually abusing his shroom/blind to dominate mid-lane and farm, and if that's denied they'll have a bad game. I play Ashe as a ranged support hero, but Teemo doesn't have the luxury of being able to switch like that (he only has one "utility" skill, and it gets wrecked by Treads).

In other words, if you're comfortable with him and you're confident you can win mid against any hero, he's good. Otherwise he's inefficient compared to a pure DPSer like Trist, and that's why I don't think you see many Teemos at mid-high Elos anymore.