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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
May 11 2010 01:14 GMT
#3861
On May 11 2010 09:50 Brees wrote:
the flame attack going from every 4 hits to every 3 is HUGE.

think of that as essentially taking udyr's damage to 75% since his best build is tanking and just allowing phoenix to do its natural DPS.
i've seen someone go innervating locker + stacking sunfires and just shred people. it's not even fair. no need to get AD/AP or even a lot of AS outside of runes and boots. just click phoenix and win.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 01:15:52
May 11 2010 01:15 GMT
#3862
On May 11 2010 06:04 Brees wrote:
Lol I said udyr was the best TT champion when he came out but no1 believed me,kept spouting off their jax and mundo bs.

udyr/shen/janna is ridiculous.
udyr/janna/ezreal. AS buff/debuff is imba too. and nothing can beat red pot ez + janna in lane. i'd say it even beats janna/jax.

edit: lol its funny how janna went from whatever to top-tier in the course of a month.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 11 2010 01:15 GMT
#3863
On May 11 2010 10:14 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 09:50 Brees wrote:
the flame attack going from every 4 hits to every 3 is HUGE.

think of that as essentially taking udyr's damage to 75% since his best build is tanking and just allowing phoenix to do its natural DPS.
i've seen someone go innervating locker + stacking sunfires and just shred people. it's not even fair. no need to get AD/AP or even a lot of AS outside of runes and boots. just click phoenix and win.


yes that is his best build innervating, banshee, sunfires.
Brees on in
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 11 2010 01:58 GMT
#3864
I don't understand how people can advocate leaving Fiddle's drain at level 1. Do you just farm and teamfight without ganking at all? Or do you try to force a teamfight every time crowstorm is up?
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 11 2010 02:04 GMT
#3865
On May 11 2010 10:58 oberon wrote:
I don't understand how people can advocate leaving Fiddle's drain at level 1. Do you just farm and teamfight without ganking at all? Or do you try to force a teamfight every time crowstorm is up?


you gank at lvl 4 with your red buff, lvl 1 drain, lvl 1 fear, lvl 2 dark wind. if you've taken control of the map, get a friend to help you dragon at this point. then gank again at lvl 6 with crowstorm. from there, you lane. you never need drain past level 1.
Brees on in
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
May 11 2010 02:19 GMT
#3866
On May 11 2010 11:04 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 10:58 oberon wrote:
I don't understand how people can advocate leaving Fiddle's drain at level 1. Do you just farm and teamfight without ganking at all? Or do you try to force a teamfight every time crowstorm is up?


you gank at lvl 4 with your red buff, lvl 1 drain, lvl 1 fear, lvl 2 dark wind. if you've taken control of the map, get a friend to help you dragon at this point. then gank again at lvl 6 with crowstorm. from there, you lane. you never need drain past level 1.
how to play fiddle:
1) press W, click on golem
2) press W, click on other monsters
3) repeat 2 til level 6
4) press R, watch a hero die
5) repeat 4 until victory

also i thought about it and i don't think the patch is going to fix udyr. the problem is that if you're caught remotely out of position by him then he can essentially stunlock you with bear. and it's hard to kill him 1v1 when he gets an extra 200 hp every 4 seconds. teamfights its a little bit better because you can burst him down but then you gotta debate whether its worth trying to kill him (with high hp and turtle+bear to run away) or to just let him do damage. so phoenix nerf reduces his damage but all that does is prolong your death a little bit. he'll still be broken.

and lol @ riot's attempt to make tiger seem viable haha.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 11 2010 02:44 GMT
#3867
Drain is terrible for ganking, anyways.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 11 2010 02:51 GMT
#3868
i went serious mode and only playe warwick and shen. 20 game winstreak atm.
Brees on in
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 11 2010 03:39 GMT
#3869
Found Elementz' TT tierlist: http://www.solomid.net/blog/?p=5
Not sure quite what I think of it; I do like it though.
I think Poppy is mildly underrated on SR. She needs a healer to back her up - the lower her health, the less damage she takes, so she needs healing and lifesteal.
Who works well w/ Zilean on TT?
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Baikinman
Profile Joined January 2010
United States74 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 04:50:45
May 11 2010 04:49 GMT
#3870
I don't know how good WW is but Shen <3 love them on my team

Edit

Because i still rate

Udyr or Malphite > Warwick
はっひふっへほ~♪
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 05:34:00
May 11 2010 05:33 GMT
#3871
To add on the the TT tierlist here's his SR Tier list....
http://www.solomid.net/blog/?p=63

I hate how all the chars I main are like Tier 3/4 LOL ><
BeSt[WHITE] Have a great retirement | "SKT is best KT." - Vortok | http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7190/ep24hitcombo2small.gif
Baikinman
Profile Joined January 2010
United States74 Posts
May 11 2010 05:39 GMT
#3872
I so agree with the Tier list blitz should b lower imo
はっひふっへほ~♪
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
May 11 2010 06:20 GMT
#3873
did MM get screwed up?
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 06:31:39
May 11 2010 06:31 GMT
#3874
On May 11 2010 15:20 redtooth wrote:
did MM get screwed up?


o_o What's wrong with it? Can't check as now I got a test tommorow =/...

Edit: Yay 250 posts zeal =D
BeSt[WHITE] Have a great retirement | "SKT is best KT." - Vortok | http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7190/ep24hitcombo2small.gif
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-11 07:02:19
May 11 2010 06:55 GMT
#3875
i'm being streamed: http://www.livestream.com/vman7
wrawrawrawra
watch me feed

edit: ok stuck on char select.
fucking server reset.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
May 11 2010 06:58 GMT
#3876
On May 11 2010 15:20 redtooth wrote:
did MM get screwed up?

I think so... takes like 5 minutes for me to get a game =(

I'm having a tough time against Singed lately. Almost no one plays him and whenever I do play against one, he's always pretty good. Dude is especially annoying in small team fights, it seems like if you can't kill him in one go (not that you should be focusing him first) there's no point in chasing cuz your just gonna get poisoned down. Of course if you don't attack him, he starts flipping your teammates around and poisoning the shit outta everyone.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 11 2010 07:06 GMT
#3877
I lose 6 games in a row, because one person doesn't know how to play so it's a 2v3, and now servers go down. Guess I don't get my bonus for a win.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 11 2010 07:06 GMT
#3878
You shouldn't attack him regardless. You HAVE to ignore him and kill everyone else.

As mentioned before, against a Singed player you just wanna force a 5v5 asap, because he requires a lot of gold to be effective and his one combat skill (toss) is really close-range, so that some CC can stop him if you even need to. His goo and his toss are annoying but all told, he's not the most disruptive tank, and you need to take advantage of that.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 11 2010 07:15 GMT
#3879
people that play singed as a tank are terrible anyway.

you WILL fear AP singed!
Brees on in
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 11 2010 07:32 GMT
#3880
Well that's my point, without money AP Singed won't be able to survive, because he's just Eve. Thus, you have to force him to not farm ASAP, or else he'll be really fucking obnoxious :p
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
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