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On May 11 2010 09:50 Brees wrote: the flame attack going from every 4 hits to every 3 is HUGE.
think of that as essentially taking udyr's damage to 75% since his best build is tanking and just allowing phoenix to do its natural DPS. i've seen someone go innervating locker + stacking sunfires and just shred people. it's not even fair. no need to get AD/AP or even a lot of AS outside of runes and boots. just click phoenix and win.
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On May 11 2010 06:04 Brees wrote: Lol I said udyr was the best TT champion when he came out but no1 believed me,kept spouting off their jax and mundo bs.
udyr/shen/janna is ridiculous. udyr/janna/ezreal. AS buff/debuff is imba too. and nothing can beat red pot ez + janna in lane. i'd say it even beats janna/jax.
edit: lol its funny how janna went from whatever to top-tier in the course of a month.
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On May 11 2010 10:14 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 09:50 Brees wrote: the flame attack going from every 4 hits to every 3 is HUGE.
think of that as essentially taking udyr's damage to 75% since his best build is tanking and just allowing phoenix to do its natural DPS. i've seen someone go innervating locker + stacking sunfires and just shred people. it's not even fair. no need to get AD/AP or even a lot of AS outside of runes and boots. just click phoenix and win.
yes that is his best build innervating, banshee, sunfires.
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I don't understand how people can advocate leaving Fiddle's drain at level 1. Do you just farm and teamfight without ganking at all? Or do you try to force a teamfight every time crowstorm is up?
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On May 11 2010 10:58 oberon wrote: I don't understand how people can advocate leaving Fiddle's drain at level 1. Do you just farm and teamfight without ganking at all? Or do you try to force a teamfight every time crowstorm is up?
you gank at lvl 4 with your red buff, lvl 1 drain, lvl 1 fear, lvl 2 dark wind. if you've taken control of the map, get a friend to help you dragon at this point. then gank again at lvl 6 with crowstorm. from there, you lane. you never need drain past level 1.
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On May 11 2010 11:04 Brees wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2010 10:58 oberon wrote: I don't understand how people can advocate leaving Fiddle's drain at level 1. Do you just farm and teamfight without ganking at all? Or do you try to force a teamfight every time crowstorm is up? you gank at lvl 4 with your red buff, lvl 1 drain, lvl 1 fear, lvl 2 dark wind. if you've taken control of the map, get a friend to help you dragon at this point. then gank again at lvl 6 with crowstorm. from there, you lane. you never need drain past level 1. how to play fiddle: 1) press W, click on golem 2) press W, click on other monsters 3) repeat 2 til level 6 4) press R, watch a hero die 5) repeat 4 until victory
also i thought about it and i don't think the patch is going to fix udyr. the problem is that if you're caught remotely out of position by him then he can essentially stunlock you with bear. and it's hard to kill him 1v1 when he gets an extra 200 hp every 4 seconds. teamfights its a little bit better because you can burst him down but then you gotta debate whether its worth trying to kill him (with high hp and turtle+bear to run away) or to just let him do damage. so phoenix nerf reduces his damage but all that does is prolong your death a little bit. he'll still be broken.
and lol @ riot's attempt to make tiger seem viable haha.
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Drain is terrible for ganking, anyways.
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i went serious mode and only playe warwick and shen. 20 game winstreak atm.
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Found Elementz' TT tierlist: http://www.solomid.net/blog/?p=5 Not sure quite what I think of it; I do like it though. I think Poppy is mildly underrated on SR. She needs a healer to back her up - the lower her health, the less damage she takes, so she needs healing and lifesteal. Who works well w/ Zilean on TT?
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I don't know how good WW is but Shen <3 love them on my team
Edit
Because i still rate
Udyr or Malphite > Warwick
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I so agree with the Tier list blitz should b lower imo 
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On May 11 2010 15:20 redtooth wrote: did MM get screwed up?
o_o What's wrong with it? Can't check as now I got a test tommorow =/...
Edit: Yay 250 posts zeal =D
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On May 11 2010 15:20 redtooth wrote: did MM get screwed up? I think so... takes like 5 minutes for me to get a game =(
I'm having a tough time against Singed lately. Almost no one plays him and whenever I do play against one, he's always pretty good. Dude is especially annoying in small team fights, it seems like if you can't kill him in one go (not that you should be focusing him first) there's no point in chasing cuz your just gonna get poisoned down. Of course if you don't attack him, he starts flipping your teammates around and poisoning the shit outta everyone.
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I lose 6 games in a row, because one person doesn't know how to play so it's a 2v3, and now servers go down. Guess I don't get my bonus for a win.
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You shouldn't attack him regardless. You HAVE to ignore him and kill everyone else.
As mentioned before, against a Singed player you just wanna force a 5v5 asap, because he requires a lot of gold to be effective and his one combat skill (toss) is really close-range, so that some CC can stop him if you even need to. His goo and his toss are annoying but all told, he's not the most disruptive tank, and you need to take advantage of that.
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people that play singed as a tank are terrible anyway.
you WILL fear AP singed!
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Well that's my point, without money AP Singed won't be able to survive, because he's just Eve. Thus, you have to force him to not farm ASAP, or else he'll be really fucking obnoxious :p
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