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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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Whiplash
United States2929 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
is looking at your opponent's controller to figure out their DI like that acceptable? i feel like it shouldn't be illegal just because of how dumb that would be to enforce but the "carry around a cardboard barrier to block your opponent's vision of your hands" meta seems pretty silly (although I have also heard people talk about listening to their opponent's inputs, so idk) | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
On May 12 2017 11:28 Crunchums wrote: is looking at your opponent's controller to figure out their DI like that acceptable? i feel like it shouldn't be illegal just because of how dumb that would be to enforce but the "carry around a cardboard barrier to block your opponent's vision of your hands" meta seems pretty silly (although I have also heard people talk about listening to their opponent's inputs, so idk) People look down on it a bit but it's allowed. I don't think there's been much of a push back as it happens so infrequently. Fortunately most big tournaments' top 8 doesn't even have the players sitting next to each other (2 CRTs back to back with splitter cables) so it's impossible. I don't follow SF much but I've heard of people assigning nothing to certain buttons on their stick to get around their opponents listening to their inputs. E.g. on knock down you can hit your empty buttons making it sound like you're teching or doing a normal get up. Thought it was interesting. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
that or i would just do spot dodge shine LOL i look down on it personally but its not something that should be banned or is even enforceable without 2 crts | ||
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xHadoken
United States171 Posts
On May 12 2017 11:28 Crunchums wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdV6SQBAwPI is looking at your opponent's controller to figure out their DI like that acceptable? i feel like it shouldn't be illegal just because of how dumb that would be to enforce but the "carry around a cardboard barrier to block your opponent's vision of your hands" meta seems pretty silly (although I have also heard people talk about listening to their opponent's inputs, so idk) Its a risk reward type of scenario. If someone is taking their eyes off the game to look at the other players controller, there is so much that is happening on the screen to where they might get punished for not knowing where their character is or paying attention to what they are doing with their own movement. | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
On May 16 2017 16:21 xHadoken wrote: Its a risk reward type of scenario. If someone is taking their eyes off the game to look at the other players controller, there is so much that is happening on the screen to where they might get punished for not knowing where their character is or paying attention to what they are doing with their own movement. Nah I really beg to differ. First off when you reach a mid level in melee, you already almost never watch your own character and instead focus on your opponent or the space in between you. Why? Because you already know what you're inputting and where your character is. Putting your attention on your own character is how you end up misspacing and getting punished. Second, you would pretty much only look at your opponent's controller like this in situations where you hit them with moves that have plenty of hitstun and predictable trajectories BUT you would normally have to guess to get a followup. In this case since both you and your opponent's characters are occupied being thrown/hit or doing the throwing/hitting you also don't need to be watching the screen carefully because the two variables that could theoretically get you killed are controlled. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
really wouldnt say there is risk reward to this | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
Random plug: PM me if anyone from TL attends the foundry in SF. I go most weeks (tag is Vite) and need more people irl to play bw with. | ||
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franzji
United States583 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On June 04 2017 14:46 0mgVitaminE wrote: Puff's upthrow -> rest setup relies on the fox DI'ing incorrectly to work, if you took time to look at their DI they would have time to do it correctly and it wouldn't work. Random plug: PM me if anyone from TL attends the foundry in SF. I go most weeks (tag is Vite) and need more people irl to play bw with. LOOOL hi vite | ||
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Fazers
737 Posts
It should be the standard though. Back dashes working correctly is beautiful. :') | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
SUP BRO I'M BACK - but the foundry is dead :[ | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
Btw, when's the next big tournament? | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
Dreamhack Atlanta and Smash Summit are both Nov 16 After that there's uhhh Don't Park on the Grass, Dec 15 | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/3D7Fh9w.jpg) Liquipedia Entry | Smash.gg Overview ___ Summit is going to be the last super stacked Melee tournament before Ultimate comes out next month. If you haven't been watching for a while, you might want to tune in. Streams will (probably) be at: I might update this with more information, but probably not. | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
604 Posts
as in: why is this guy on TL? really disappointing to see someone raging against almost everyone in the melee community wearing the blues. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On December 26 2018 01:58 CHEONSOYUN wrote: wtf is this Salem guy doing on twitter? as in: why is this guy on TL? really disappointing to see someone raging against almost everyone in the melee community wearing the blues. The best part is hes calling Armada a one trick while he has literally only ever been relevant by abusing Bayonetta in sm4sh. Dude wasn't even placing in regionals in brawl. | ||
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