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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
On May 15 2009 03:10 Elyvilon wrote: Fun fact: Lux has not won a game on this map. Amazing article Konadora, thanks! That said, I don't think that we'll see a non-zerg victory on this map. I don't think there's some amazing strategy that just hasn't been seen yet, though I really hope so, since Battle Royal has some really cool concepts. oh really? -_-;; Sorry. I kind of assumed that he had because his zvz is pretty good. Now that I think about it more, I guess yarnc has been winning on that map iirc. | ||
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MagisterMan
Sweden525 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On May 15 2009 05:24 GHOSTCLAW wrote: oh really? -_-;; Sorry. I kind of assumed that he had because his zvz is pretty good. Now that I think about it more, I guess yarnc has been winning on that map iirc. Lol still confused with the twins huh... | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
I actually do that too sometimes. Just because everyone says their twins, it makes a weird connection between them. | ||
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Nanoo
229 Posts
Bisu (PvZ king) should challange this map... | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
looks like this map will just be ZvZ fest | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
On May 15 2009 08:14 RoieTRS wrote: I actually do that too sometimes. Just because everyone says their twins, it makes a weird connection between them. One of them should play a different race. They look similar as well. It's tough sometimes if you can't read the names, or the team names on the top. >.> Then you just end up guessing, especially in mirrors (although if you watch enough games, you can start learning korean names! there's only...26 characters...I think...) and just if anyone wants to answer it >.> Why isn't this map P>Z>T>P balanced? I've asked it in every thread that's been made about battle royal, and haven't gotten a good answer yet...To reiterate the arguments that I've made in the previous 2 threads on the subject, I would think that you could get the easy two bases like on gods garden, and then your third is even further away zerg. It's an open map once you break out, but P gets to stay on 2 bases for basically the whole game, and the fact that the other bases are open should make a timing attack pretty viable (and make getting the third for P tough as well, but I don't think that the games would last that long). I also think that a 9/9 proxy in the middle would allow protoss to get the initiative, and if it dosen't do damage then protoss can take out the zerg assims, and leave the middle as a possible (although kind of dumb imo) double gas third. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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defenestrate
United States579 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On May 15 2009 10:29 GHOSTCLAW wrote: One of them should play a different race. They look similar as well. It's tough sometimes if you can't read the names, or the team names on the top. >.> Then you just end up guessing, especially in mirrors (although if you watch enough games, you can start learning korean names! there's only...26 characters...I think...) and just if anyone wants to answer it >.> Why isn't this map P>Z>T>P balanced? I've asked it in every thread that's been made about battle royal, and haven't gotten a good answer yet...To reiterate the arguments that I've made in the previous 2 threads on the subject, I would think that you could get the easy two bases like on gods garden, and then your third is even further away zerg. It's an open map once you break out, but P gets to stay on 2 bases for basically the whole game, and the fact that the other bases are open should make a timing attack pretty viable (and make getting the third for P tough as well, but I don't think that the games would last that long). I also think that a 9/9 proxy in the middle would allow protoss to get the initiative, and if it dosen't do damage then protoss can take out the zerg assims, and leave the middle as a possible (although kind of dumb imo) double gas third. That's because there will probably never be a TvP and we'll never find out before it's gone :3 | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
 5000+ posts in < 3 months. Holy shit dude. Great read, btw. Awesome insight on the map. I would lol if Woongjin and eSTRO rig the last match of Round 4 so it goes to the 5set and they set up a TvP or a TvT/PvP. Just to fuck with everyone :p BTW, ICCUP proves Zerg CAN lose on this map | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On May 15 2009 18:30 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Konadora takes the term FE to a whole new level 5000+ posts in < 3 months. Holy shit dude. Great read, btw. Awesome insight on the map. I would lol if Woongjin and eSTRO rig the last match of Round 4 so it goes to the 5set and they set up a TvP or a TvT/PvP. Just to fuck with everyone :p BTW, ICCUP proves Zerg CAN lose on this map I played a few PvZs on it lol (played melee though, one including against GTR), 2star corsair-> reaver or carriers with mass cannon is good strategy lol Haven't figured out how to play TvZ there yet =.=" TvP was nightmare, played with my friend. He went mass speed shuttle reaver/dragoon/zealot drop the whole game, urgh. | ||
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ama-cms
Finland164 Posts
 Also, I remember when season 4 hadn't started yet, Idra came out and said that Battle Royale was massively anti-zerg. A little phail there... ;D | ||
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Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
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MuShu
United States3223 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
On May 15 2009 10:29 GHOSTCLAW wrote: One of them should play a different race. They look similar as well. It's tough sometimes if you can't read the names, or the team names on the top. >.> Then you just end up guessing, especially in mirrors (although if you watch enough games, you can start learning korean names! there's only...26 characters...I think...) and just if anyone wants to answer it >.> Why isn't this map P>Z>T>P balanced? I've asked it in every thread that's been made about battle royal, and haven't gotten a good answer yet...To reiterate the arguments that I've made in the previous 2 threads on the subject, I would think that you could get the easy two bases like on gods garden, and then your third is even further away zerg. It's an open map once you break out, but P gets to stay on 2 bases for basically the whole game, and the fact that the other bases are open should make a timing attack pretty viable (and make getting the third for P tough as well, but I don't think that the games would last that long). I also think that a 9/9 proxy in the middle would allow protoss to get the initiative, and if it dosen't do damage then protoss can take out the zerg assims, and leave the middle as a possible (although kind of dumb imo) double gas third. I may be missing something here, but when I first really looked at the map I figured it'd be an impossible PvZ map simply because FE would be so vulnerable to lings, and 2 gate would be easily defended by zerg. If toss puts cannons at their small choke and kills the assims, zerg can get a decent sized speedling army early and crack the neutral buildings before the p can afford to lay down cannons to defend their nat+main. If you choose to try cannoning farther back the lings are free to harass either your nat or your main - whichever is least defended. If you 2 gate near your assims you can't really apply pressure with early zeals since it's so easy for zerg to kill their own assims. If you 1 gate tech you can probably defend your small choke early game, but zerg will scout everything you do, and respond accordingly. I just don't see how P has a chance without some ridiculous build like the one in Tempest vs RorO. | ||
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