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On May 06 2011 18:51 DeathNTaxes wrote:
How does this guy have a fan club, hes not even good.
He is actually good but some people don't like his personality. You could easily compare him with Thorzain. When he has to play many top players in a row then he doesn't do well but when you give him time to prepare he will find so many weaknesses in his opponent. Check Cruncher's stream and TSL games ( not qualification but his games against idra and naniwa ). He is overall a great player but he shouldn't make a name by trolling idra.
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On May 06 2011 16:12 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
I'm actually disturbed by how many bans there are in the ABL about how this guy is supposedly hacking or is an easytoss n00b who got past the TSL3 early rounds on shear luck. *Shudders*
That being said he's a great player, and I am rather inspired that such a young guy can become so goddamn good.
Same, I actually started to avoid reading about it yesterdat because it was sickening to read people behave this disrespectful towards someone, especially when it isn't based on anything. Now that it's still going on and people still spout hate I feel I need to put my foot down.
To respond on the controversy:
First off you cannot say that he cheated. There is no evidence what so ever that he did. The screenshot has the stream muted, he's already a high level player regardless if you like his style he produces results, you would have to say that he is stupid for streaming himself cheating and not trying to hide it in anyway also means you think he wouldn't be aware if he's cheating.
So, it's based on nothing and using nothing to tarnish someones name is in my book a way worse offense.
Also if he had the stream sound on, or he had a second monitor, or he had someone watching for him, all of which you can literally say about anybody in everycase, then if it was just one ladder match I could understand and would have no problem with it.
It's like when you play with your friends but you "cheat" one time not to be unfair, but just to stir them up. In that sense, for me atleast, the integrity of the competition part of cheating doesn't apply as being broken so I don't care.
Second point is already contained in the first one or I forgot it.
How dare you be so disrespectful and arrogant, assuming things left and right, implicating foul judgements, blackening ones name in the community, spitting hatred, insighting hatred etc. You realise that in the spirit of freedom of speech, that is the only thing that is not allowed? You can say whatever you want but you cannot malicously manipulate like that.
For CrunCher,
I really liked it when djWheat tells the story of how you did in wc3 and how it was at the end and you made the swap, especially because you have been able to get to a high level in starcraft too.
I do think in general the style feels a bit too safe for my taste, I'm a big fan of really aggresive play but from the state of the game episode where Nony shed some light on this, I actually came to respect it more and see the good things about it.
Stay strong and make sure the disrespectful haters don't get you down, I actually feel ashamed they have an equally strong voice as me.
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bad luck against July  youll get em next time!
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Why does this guy even have a fanclub? I mean, seriously...
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On May 06 2011 15:39 travis wrote:
Watching or listening to another player's stream while laddering against them absolutely isn't acceptable on tl.net.
Watching their streams to time when you search for a game so that you will go up against them is perfectly fine, and hilarious.
Wisest words ever written on tl.net. Keep up the entertainment value, Cruncher! If IdrA isnt around to supply it, his "fanbase" is!
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Can we all just Stfu about IdrA? This is Cruncher's fanclub, we should not be talking about Greg.
Nasl W4 D2 spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +Thats too bad about your games Vs July. That neutral supply depot really screwed you over, but its pretty easily killable and you had a cannon right there. Oh well, I guess thats a downside to changing the maps to prevent 2-pylon walloffs.
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On May 06 2011 19:07 Crawler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 18:51 DeathNTaxes wrote:
How does this guy have a fan club, hes not even good.
He is actually good but some people don't like his personality. You could easily compare him with Thorzain. When he has to play many top players in a row then he doesn't do well but when you give him time to prepare he will find so many weaknesses in his opponent. Check Cruncher's stream and TSL games ( not qualification but his games against idra and naniwa ). He is overall a great player but he shouldn't make a name by trolling idra.
Not really comparable to Thorzain
Thorzains more mannered, better innovative strats, good grasp of macro and actually a good player where Cruncer is only good due to op fotm strats
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On May 06 2011 19:07 Crawler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2011 18:51 DeathNTaxes wrote:
How does this guy have a fan club, hes not even good.
He is actually good but some people don't like his personality. You could easily compare him with Thorzain.
wtf? how is this what thorzain is like at all? no one has a problem with thorzains personality, apart from the fact that they are both good players that haven't really been in the limelight...
anyway pretty lame that everyone just trolls this fanclub ;/ if u dont like a player don't post in their fanclub 
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So much Drama, but thats how haters roll. Keep it up !
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I didn't like Cruncher.
And then he smiled.
And of course, then I saw what Idra said to him between games. Was an easy choice after that.
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If you're gonna one-up IdrA, do it without cheating...once the dust settles, I think Cruncher's the only one who people are gonna remember.
If you call someone a "waste of life" in professional sport people will talk about you for a week. You get busted taking performance enhancing drugs (read: cheating), people won't ever respect you in competition.
Edit: modified to prevent being gassed by TL mod reich
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Sniping isn't cheating and he didn't stream cheat. Go cruncher!
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On May 06 2011 22:40 Ruscour wrote:
If you're gonna one-up IdrA, do it without cheating...once the dust settles, I think Cruncher's the only one who people are gonna remember.
If you call someone a "waste of life" in professional sport people will talk about you for a week. You get busted taking performance enhancing drugs (read: cheating), people won't ever respect you in competition.
Edit: modified to prevent being gassed by TL mod reich
People will remember Idra way longer then they will cruncher as things are now. And i'm not saying that with any disrespect to either.
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Good luck with your.. career.... cruncher..
you may want to look at improving long term rather than abusing short term possibilities.
I don't know anyone who is liked less than this guy, at least in terms of ratio, theres like 10 people that call this guy terrible, and 1 person who says "he's ok"
From what i've heard so far anyway, withholding any of my own opinion about him as a person, but his play is reminiscent of platinum toss players who havent figured out hotkey/multi tasking yet.
Anyway, hope you improve and show people that you can do more than /afk and wait for colo to come out
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On May 06 2011 23:52 Eleaven wrote:
Good luck with your.. career.... cruncher..
you may want to look at improving long term rather than abusing short term possibilities.
I don't know anyone who is liked less than this guy, at least in terms of ratio, theres like 10 people that call this guy terrible, and 1 person who says "he's ok"
From what i've heard so far anyway, withholding any of my own opinion about him as a person, but his play is reminiscent of platinum toss players who havent figured out hotkey/multi tasking yet.
Anyway, hope you improve and show people that you can do more than /afk and wait for colo to come out
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Well you should probably try watching his stream.
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Why are people giving him so much hate? This is a fanclub and not a haterclub 
And they should know that they will get banned/warned....
gogo Cruncher
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On May 07 2011 00:45 aDd3z wrote:Why are people giving him so much hate? This is a fanclub and not a haterclub And they should know that they will get banned/warned.... gogo Cruncher
Because their idol was beaten and they cant accept it.
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On May 07 2011 00:48 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 00:45 aDd3z wrote:Why are people giving him so much hate? This is a fanclub and not a haterclub And they should know that they will get banned/warned.... gogo Cruncher Because their idol was beaten and they cant accept it.
No. People are allowed to call someone out objectively because they saw a possible star on the rise respond in an immature way to a controversial issue that happened on his stream. Don't discredit everyone who is trying to say cruncher needs to shape up by saying 'oh they are all clearly butthurt fanboys of idra' No, they could be just people who saw the situation and felt obligated to call cruncher out....
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On May 07 2011 01:11 Zeri wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 00:48 Aristodemus wrote:On May 07 2011 00:45 aDd3z wrote:Why are people giving him so much hate? This is a fanclub and not a haterclub And they should know that they will get banned/warned.... gogo Cruncher Because their idol was beaten and they cant accept it. No. People are allowed to call someone out objectively because they saw a possible star on the rise respond in an immature way to a controversial issue that happened on his stream. Don't discredit everyone who is trying to say cruncher needs to shape up by saying 'oh they are all clearly butthurt fanboys of idra' No, they could be just people who saw the situation and felt obligated to call cruncher out....
Have you even read the posts he was talking about? Thats hate, and it started way before yesterday.
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On May 07 2011 01:26 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 01:11 Zeri wrote:On May 07 2011 00:48 Aristodemus wrote:On May 07 2011 00:45 aDd3z wrote:Why are people giving him so much hate? This is a fanclub and not a haterclub And they should know that they will get banned/warned.... gogo Cruncher Because their idol was beaten and they cant accept it. No. People are allowed to call someone out objectively because they saw a possible star on the rise respond in an immature way to a controversial issue that happened on his stream. Don't discredit everyone who is trying to say cruncher needs to shape up by saying 'oh they are all clearly butthurt fanboys of idra' No, they could be just people who saw the situation and felt obligated to call cruncher out.... Have you even read the posts he was talking about? Thats hate, and it started way before yesterday.
I completely agree. Just wanted to distinguish...
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