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This isn't a thread about Artosis.
deMONk
Profile Joined March 2011
45 Posts
May 06 2011 18:30 GMT
#421
nice stream cheating

User was temp banned for this post.
Trawler
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden382 Posts
May 06 2011 18:40 GMT
#422
nice stream cheating

User was banned for this post.
Sethronu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom450 Posts
May 06 2011 18:48 GMT
#423
It's hilarious how many people claim Cruncher is only where he is due to 'abusing op fotm strats' - if it were so easy, why is he winning games of that caliber and not you, your grandma, or any other of the thousands of Protoss players out there?

And don't give me this bs about 'self respect' and people who want a 'challenge', anyone who even TRIES to play competitively but doesn't use the most powerful strategies is simply retarded and not worthy of being called a 'pro' player.

Fyi, I hate Cruncher for knocking Mondy out of TSL but damn, the stupidity levels of this whine are astonishing. He's certainly by no means a terrible player.
Crawler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Estonia248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 19:06:55
May 06 2011 19:04 GMT
#424

Not really comparable to Thorzain

Thorzains more mannered, better innovative strats, good grasp of macro and actually a good player where Cruncer is only good due to op fotm strats



wtf? how is this what thorzain is like at all? no one has a problem with thorzains personality, apart from the fact that they are both good players that haven't really been in the limelight...

anyway pretty lame that everyone just trolls this fanclub ;/ if u dont like a player don't post in their fanclub



Sorry for bad wording. I didn't compare their personalities... Both players are really smart and have similar ability to beat quite strong opponents due to their effective practice. Their personalities are completly different tho.

Requote:
Cruncer is only good due to op fotm strats

Picking a right strategy to win makes player bad? Tell me what "op fotm strats" protoss has? Before you answer I'll remind you that infestors and broodlords are really good and 200/200 roach only army indeed sucks against protoss "op strats".

That's my last post in this thread as I don't want to discuss this issue in someone's fanclub anymore. As a random player thorzain, idra and cruncher (ofc there are many other players who's style I copy) have all been incredibly helpful in certain matchups with their streams. Please stop bashing top players skill level just because of their personality. Rivalry between players isn't a bad thing but flaming and raging in forum won't get you anywhere.

A bit offtopic but.. lastly I'd like to add that people seem to forget everything really fast. When Jinro performered well he was so popular and considered best foreign terran. His fanclub thread got spammed constantly but after underperforming in last few events, he has been forgotten by a lot of these fans. Probably like quarter of them don't even watch his games anymore who signed up in fanclub. Same story applies to HuK, White-Ra, Dimaga, IdrA and many other top players who have had low points. Message to all the fans: keep supporting your favourite players so they would come out of the slump faster! (Insulting other top players isn't a good way to support)

EDIT: Completly agree with post above me.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
May 06 2011 20:17 GMT
#425
On May 07 2011 00:45 aDd3z wrote:
Why are people giving him so much hate? This is a fanclub and not a haterclub
And they should know that they will get banned/warned....

gogo Cruncher



Typical Idra fanboy-zealots and forum martyrs, nothing new really.
Mob.scene
Profile Joined May 2011
16 Posts
May 06 2011 20:34 GMT
#426
[image loading]

All these self-important rabble-rousers are the reason why I'm a fan of Cruncher.

He's really good.
He's fun to watch.
And his reaction to this BS is priceless. :D

User was warned for this post
iPBioOrMech
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey297 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 20:41:29
May 06 2011 20:37 GMT
#427
Cruncher, is he muslim? his name sounds like he is quick respond from anyone?
Nevermind..
i created scan BM, MvP created mule drop.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
May 06 2011 20:43 GMT
#428
On May 07 2011 05:37 Bio0rMech wrote:
Cruncher, is he muslim? his name sounds like he is quick respond from anyone?
Nevermind..

Half Arab. I think his dad is Kuwaiti mom white. Like me my dad is Syrian mom German. I'm not Muslim tho dunno if he is or not.
MC for president
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
May 06 2011 20:47 GMT
#429
Just how do you do this? So many haters already, lol. That is actually an achievement. I hope to see you in more big tournaments in the future.
DaggothReborn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States121 Posts
May 06 2011 20:52 GMT
#430
On May 06 2011 07:10 CrunCher wrote:
lol. idra fanboys so uspet i sniped idra. watch my stream next time

cant accept a loss





about the 'cheating':

sniping=waiting till he searches to search

http://puu.sh/1Tpw

as you can see the sound is muted and the guy ss'd my stream(live)

idra all-ins half the games in ipl, and i didnt see him expand. and you make 2 gateways so you block off faster, mostly after nexus first (and i dropped my 2nd gate before he dropped his roach warren). and 2 cannons when you nexus first is cheating? (watch gsl/ipl/nasl, ex- anypro makes 3 cannons and zealot/sentry/stalker before tech)


I have a few questions for you. I will provide picture evidence for your ease of answering.

First, here are some pictures.

[image loading]

In this image, you can see the time you played idra. it is the 35:37 timestamp on his vod.

[image loading]

On this image, you can see when he plays this red terran on his stream. note the time, 1:06:54

[image loading]

On this image you provided to us all, i noted 4 circles some things..

Red Circle: I pointed this part of your image out, because i am confused why you opened his stream just over 30 minutes later, after your game, when you were already logged in, and viewing his stream 40 minutes before that.

Green Circle: I pointed this out because i am confused why you are watching the replay of your previous game 40 minutes later from your game.

Yellow Circle: I pointed this out, because you can clearly see that this was a replay.

Blue Circle: I pointed this out, because this circle points out that you "just" logged into your room and went live with your broadcast.

As all viewers can see, if they save your image you uploaded, you took that screenshot at 5:30:30PM, which ironically is 30 minutes after your game with IdrA.

This is a statement i can prove:
You were logged into your Justin.TV account, and watching IdrAs stream as the match was starting, but failed to go to your own room until 40 minutes AFTER the game was over.

And i am curious why you used the snipping tool to highlight your entire screen, but fail to capture the time? Most users who wanted to post a screenshot of their entire screen, would of just pressed the "prtscr" button on their keyboard.

As you can see in the screenshot you provided, the user "sectionnine" posted a message at 5:03. You took the screenshot at 5:30. But you waited nearly an hour before posting on teamliquid? Why did you take this screenshot?

What this looks like to me, is a screenshot if you viewing idras stream almost an hour AFTER your game was playing. What this image PROVES is you were watching his stream 40 minutes after your game was over.

This still dont explain you being in idras room as your match was starting. This image dont disprove anything because this image was taken nearly an hour after the game.

What i think happened:

I think, after you beat idra, you seen his chat calling you out on watching his stream, so you quickly disconnected out of his room.

You then went to teamliquid, and read through three pages until you seen my image that i posted showing PROOF that you were in his channel as the game ended.

So, i think you started your stream, went to idras stream, pressed the mute button, the snapped a screenshot to defend yourself showing that the mutebutton was on. but when you took the screenshot, idra was playing a player much later in his stream from when he played you.
Nagano
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1157 Posts
May 06 2011 21:00 GMT
#431
DaggothReborn, nice work!

I too would like all of those points you raised to be answered. It looks very suspicious to say the least when Cruncher submits a screenshot of him viewing idra's stream LONG after their game as proof that he had it muted.

Seriously, amazing catch. Sherlock over here :D
“The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.”
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 21:07:11
May 06 2011 21:06 GMT
#432
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 07 2011 05:52 DaggothReborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 07:10 CrunCher wrote:
lol. idra fanboys so uspet i sniped idra. watch my stream next time

cant accept a loss





about the 'cheating':

sniping=waiting till he searches to search

http://puu.sh/1Tpw

as you can see the sound is muted and the guy ss'd my stream(live)

idra all-ins half the games in ipl, and i didnt see him expand. and you make 2 gateways so you block off faster, mostly after nexus first (and i dropped my 2nd gate before he dropped his roach warren). and 2 cannons when you nexus first is cheating? (watch gsl/ipl/nasl, ex- anypro makes 3 cannons and zealot/sentry/stalker before tech)


I have a few questions for you. I will provide picture evidence for your ease of answering.

First, here are some pictures.

[image loading]

In this image, you can see the time you played idra. it is the 35:37 timestamp on his vod.

[image loading]

On this image, you can see when he plays this red terran on his stream. note the time, 1:06:54

[image loading]

On this image you provided to us all, i noted 4 circles some things..

Red Circle: I pointed this part of your image out, because i am confused why you opened his stream just over 30 minutes later, after your game, when you were already logged in, and viewing his stream 40 minutes before that.

Green Circle: I pointed this out because i am confused why you are watching the replay of your previous game 40 minutes later from your game.

Yellow Circle: I pointed this out, because you can clearly see that this was a replay.

Blue Circle: I pointed this out, because this circle points out that you "just" logged into your room and went live with your broadcast.

As all viewers can see, if they save your image you uploaded, you took that screenshot at 5:30:30PM, which ironically is 30 minutes after your game with IdrA.

This is a statement i can prove:
You were logged into your Justin.TV account, and watching IdrAs stream as the match was starting, but failed to go to your own room until 40 minutes AFTER the game was over.

And i am curious why you used the snipping tool to highlight your entire screen, but fail to capture the time? Most users who wanted to post a screenshot of their entire screen, would of just pressed the "prtscr" button on their keyboard.

As you can see in the screenshot you provided, the user "sectionnine" posted a message at 5:03. You took the screenshot at 5:30. But you waited nearly an hour before posting on teamliquid? Why did you take this screenshot?

What this looks like to me, is a screenshot if you viewing idras stream almost an hour AFTER your game was playing. What this image PROVES is you were watching his stream 40 minutes after your game was over.

This still dont explain you being in idras room as your match was starting. This image dont disprove anything because this image was taken nearly an hour after the game.

What i think happened:

I think, after you beat idra, you seen his chat calling you out on watching his stream, so you quickly disconnected out of his room.

You then went to teamliquid, and read through three pages until you seen my image that i posted showing PROOF that you were in his channel as the game ended.

So, i think you started your stream, went to idras stream, pressed the mute button, the snapped a screenshot to defend yourself showing that the mutebutton was on. but when you took the screenshot, idra was playing a player much later in his stream from when he played you.




Ok, so you can prove that he was logged onto IdrA's stream 40mins after his game with him. What is the significance of that?
Also what's with the green circle around the replay, is there any point you're trying to make here?
None of the "evidence" you've provided here shows anything we didn't already have available to us.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 06 2011 21:09 GMT
#433
LMAO

you guys realize cruncher didn't even take the screen shot right?

gj though detectives
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 21:11:39
May 06 2011 21:10 GMT
#434
On May 07 2011 06:00 Nagano wrote:
DaggothReborn, nice work!

I too would like all of those points you raised to be answered. It looks very suspicious to say the least when Cruncher submits a screenshot of him viewing idra's stream LONG after their game as proof that he had it muted.

Seriously, amazing catch. Sherlock over here :D


So you expect Cruncher to just have a screenshot available at every moment he plays? It's likely that the screenshot was taken after he read of TL or w/e he was accused of cheating. IMO it neither proves him innocent nor guilty

Of course he's not going to randomly spam prt sc whenever he's playing..
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 21:13:47
May 06 2011 21:11 GMT
#435
On May 07 2011 06:09 travis wrote:
LMAO

you guys realize cruncher didn't even take the screen shot right?

gj though detectives


DaggothReborn is the next Alex Jones. You heard it here first.

@ Nagano - I bolded and underlined the most relavent part for you, since yo missed it before.
Nagano
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1157 Posts
May 06 2011 21:11 GMT
#436
On May 07 2011 06:06 TheRhox wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 07 2011 05:52 DaggothReborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 07:10 CrunCher wrote:
lol. idra fanboys so uspet i sniped idra. watch my stream next time

cant accept a loss





about the 'cheating':

sniping=waiting till he searches to search

http://puu.sh/1Tpw

as you can see the sound is muted and the guy ss'd my stream(live)

idra all-ins half the games in ipl, and i didnt see him expand. and you make 2 gateways so you block off faster, mostly after nexus first (and i dropped my 2nd gate before he dropped his roach warren). and 2 cannons when you nexus first is cheating? (watch gsl/ipl/nasl, ex- anypro makes 3 cannons and zealot/sentry/stalker before tech)


I have a few questions for you. I will provide picture evidence for your ease of answering.

First, here are some pictures.

[image loading]

In this image, you can see the time you played idra. it is the 35:37 timestamp on his vod.

[image loading]

On this image, you can see when he plays this red terran on his stream. note the time, 1:06:54

[image loading]

On this image you provided to us all, i noted 4 circles some things..

Red Circle: I pointed this part of your image out, because i am confused why you opened his stream just over 30 minutes later, after your game, when you were already logged in, and viewing his stream 40 minutes before that.

Green Circle: I pointed this out because i am confused why you are watching the replay of your previous game 40 minutes later from your game.

Yellow Circle: I pointed this out, because you can clearly see that this was a replay.

Blue Circle: I pointed this out, because this circle points out that you "just" logged into your room and went live with your broadcast.

As all viewers can see, if they save your image you uploaded, you took that screenshot at 5:30:30PM, which ironically is 30 minutes after your game with IdrA.

This is a statement i can prove:
You were logged into your Justin.TV account, and watching IdrAs stream as the match was starting, but failed to go to your own room until 40 minutes AFTER the game was over.

And i am curious why you used the snipping tool to highlight your entire screen, but fail to capture the time? Most users who wanted to post a screenshot of their entire screen, would of just pressed the "prtscr" button on their keyboard.

As you can see in the screenshot you provided, the user "sectionnine" posted a message at 5:03. You took the screenshot at 5:30. But you waited nearly an hour before posting on teamliquid? Why did you take this screenshot?

What this looks like to me, is a screenshot if you viewing idras stream almost an hour AFTER your game was playing. What this image PROVES is you were watching his stream 40 minutes after your game was over.

This still dont explain you being in idras room as your match was starting. This image dont disprove anything because this image was taken nearly an hour after the game.

What i think happened:

I think, after you beat idra, you seen his chat calling you out on watching his stream, so you quickly disconnected out of his room.

You then went to teamliquid, and read through three pages until you seen my image that i posted showing PROOF that you were in his channel as the game ended.

So, i think you started your stream, went to idras stream, pressed the mute button, the snapped a screenshot to defend yourself showing that the mutebutton was on. but when you took the screenshot, idra was playing a player much later in his stream from when he played you.




Ok, so you can prove that he was logged onto IdrA's stream 40mins after his game with him. What is the significance of that?
Also what's with the green circle around the replay, is there any point you're trying to make here?
None of the "evidence" you've provided here shows anything we didn't already have available to us.


The significance of that is Cruncher uploaded that screenshot to show he had idra's stream muted during his game. With Daggoth's detective work, we can now see that Cruncher took a screenshot of the stream 30 minutes after their game together, therefore we can no longer trust Cruncher's screenshot as evidence that he was not streamcheating.
“The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.”
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
May 06 2011 21:14 GMT
#437
Daggoth you are the best mod anyone could ask for.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
May 06 2011 21:14 GMT
#438
On May 07 2011 06:11 Nagano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 06:06 TheRhox wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 07 2011 05:52 DaggothReborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 07:10 CrunCher wrote:
lol. idra fanboys so uspet i sniped idra. watch my stream next time

cant accept a loss





about the 'cheating':

sniping=waiting till he searches to search

http://puu.sh/1Tpw

as you can see the sound is muted and the guy ss'd my stream(live)

idra all-ins half the games in ipl, and i didnt see him expand. and you make 2 gateways so you block off faster, mostly after nexus first (and i dropped my 2nd gate before he dropped his roach warren). and 2 cannons when you nexus first is cheating? (watch gsl/ipl/nasl, ex- anypro makes 3 cannons and zealot/sentry/stalker before tech)


I have a few questions for you. I will provide picture evidence for your ease of answering.

First, here are some pictures.

[image loading]

In this image, you can see the time you played idra. it is the 35:37 timestamp on his vod.

[image loading]

On this image, you can see when he plays this red terran on his stream. note the time, 1:06:54

[image loading]

On this image you provided to us all, i noted 4 circles some things..

Red Circle: I pointed this part of your image out, because i am confused why you opened his stream just over 30 minutes later, after your game, when you were already logged in, and viewing his stream 40 minutes before that.

Green Circle: I pointed this out because i am confused why you are watching the replay of your previous game 40 minutes later from your game.

Yellow Circle: I pointed this out, because you can clearly see that this was a replay.

Blue Circle: I pointed this out, because this circle points out that you "just" logged into your room and went live with your broadcast.

As all viewers can see, if they save your image you uploaded, you took that screenshot at 5:30:30PM, which ironically is 30 minutes after your game with IdrA.

This is a statement i can prove:
You were logged into your Justin.TV account, and watching IdrAs stream as the match was starting, but failed to go to your own room until 40 minutes AFTER the game was over.

And i am curious why you used the snipping tool to highlight your entire screen, but fail to capture the time? Most users who wanted to post a screenshot of their entire screen, would of just pressed the "prtscr" button on their keyboard.

As you can see in the screenshot you provided, the user "sectionnine" posted a message at 5:03. You took the screenshot at 5:30. But you waited nearly an hour before posting on teamliquid? Why did you take this screenshot?

What this looks like to me, is a screenshot if you viewing idras stream almost an hour AFTER your game was playing. What this image PROVES is you were watching his stream 40 minutes after your game was over.

This still dont explain you being in idras room as your match was starting. This image dont disprove anything because this image was taken nearly an hour after the game.

What i think happened:

I think, after you beat idra, you seen his chat calling you out on watching his stream, so you quickly disconnected out of his room.

You then went to teamliquid, and read through three pages until you seen my image that i posted showing PROOF that you were in his channel as the game ended.

So, i think you started your stream, went to idras stream, pressed the mute button, the snapped a screenshot to defend yourself showing that the mutebutton was on. but when you took the screenshot, idra was playing a player much later in his stream from when he played you.




Ok, so you can prove that he was logged onto IdrA's stream 40mins after his game with him. What is the significance of that?
Also what's with the green circle around the replay, is there any point you're trying to make here?
None of the "evidence" you've provided here shows anything we didn't already have available to us.


The significance of that is Cruncher uploaded that screenshot to show he had idra's stream muted during his game. With Daggoth's detective work, we can now see that Cruncher took a screenshot of the stream 30 minutes after their game together, therefore we can no longer trust Cruncher's screenshot as evidence that he was not streamcheating.


Please re-read the last two or so posts of this thread.
Nagano
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 21:16:35
May 06 2011 21:15 GMT
#439
On May 07 2011 06:09 travis wrote:
LMAO

you guys realize cruncher didn't even take the screen shot right?

gj though detectives


A third party took the screenshot. It does not matter though because the muted status of idra's stream is shown within Cruncher's own stream and not the screen of the third party, making everything daggoth stated remain true. Cruncher then referred to this very picture as evidence that he had it muted during his game against Idra. Nothing changes due to the fact that it was taken by another person because Cruncher's screen is in plain view via the stream window. I.E. that is Cruncher watching the stream 30 minutes later with the sound muted while watching a replay.
“The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.”
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#440
So then WTF is your point? That the screenshot doesn't matter? Woopdy shit, no one ever said it did.
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