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This isn't a thread about Artosis.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 03:48:33
May 06 2011 03:48 GMT
#361
great games in NASL, some things didn't go your way

I'm sure you will bounce back from this setback and show the real great RTS player you are
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
jackalope
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan120 Posts
May 06 2011 03:50 GMT
#362
Seems like pretty poor judgment on the part of Cruncher if he's trying to win fans.
water in the lasers
Nu11
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada167 Posts
May 06 2011 03:56 GMT
#363
Just so everyone in here knows, it is incredibly easy to control what sound gets output'd to your stream.

All we know is CrunCher was in the stream, and that he reacted to things he could not see instantly after IdrA said them.

Does that mean he cheated? no, though its very unlikely he did not. The point is, it's impossible to prove whether or not it was a legitimate cheat or not. Even if the evidence drastically points towards cheating, there's no solid concrete proof.

Furthermore, its a ladder game and means little to nothing and the over reaction on both sides is childish.

IdrA streams willingly knowing people he is playing against could watch his stream. There's nothing on the line and if he suspects that it is the case he can just leave the game.

He is making money off his stream, and he is also providing a service to his fans. IdrAs record vs. CrunCher is 3 losses 20 wins. He has no reason to get upset and his actions were uncalled for. CrunCher was stream sitting, that's a fact, and that's all anyone can prove. Drop it there, shitting up the community is not going to fix anything. if this was a tournament or a money game it would matter. Point being it's not.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 06 2011 03:58 GMT
#364
Good lord guys, just let it go. Even idra said to let it go.

Too bad for you loss against July and don't listen to the haters
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
RQShatter
Profile Joined August 2010
United States459 Posts
May 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#365
1.) Idra "Oh look he is stream cheating he went 2 gate chronoing stalkers"

2.) zealots pop out and all his roaches die to cannons

3/) Idra rage quits obviously mad that cruncher outplayed him
Nu11
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada167 Posts
May 06 2011 04:31 GMT
#366
On May 06 2011 13:16 RQShatter wrote:
1.) Idra "Oh look he is stream cheating he went 2 gate chronoing stalkers"

2.) zealots pop out and all his roaches die to cannons

3/) Idra rage quits obviously mad that cruncher outplayed him




What? there were no zealots, IdrAs Roaches did not die, and CrunCher responded to every single move IdrA did without scouting or any vision. Idra left the second he seen that CrunCher had blind countered him when IdrAs play normally would win agaisnt what he was doing.

Not saying he cheated as I said above, but don't make things up.
FastgunZ
Profile Joined February 2011
United States35 Posts
May 06 2011 04:34 GMT
#367
Nice job mentioning the depot during a casted tournament match against a BW legend. Classy move, definitely made up for this afternoons shenanigans
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 06 2011 04:35 GMT
#368
man it seems like people will keep talking until they release the replay and then judge what really happened.
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 04:45:04
May 06 2011 04:44 GMT
#369
So many people care more about flaming someone than keeping their posting privileges.
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
setmeal
Profile Joined March 2011
162 Posts
May 06 2011 04:45 GMT
#370
On May 06 2011 12:50 jackalope wrote:
Seems like pretty poor judgment on the part of Cruncher if he's trying to win fans.


Well, Cruncher definitely won me over with this. Sign me up for the fanclub! Love how he trolls Idra.
Chinminy
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
New Zealand41 Posts
May 06 2011 05:13 GMT
#371
just curious is Abdulaziz Abed his real name?
I like... Really don't like flying in BF3
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
May 06 2011 05:13 GMT
#372
yes
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
Magikarp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States32 Posts
May 06 2011 05:17 GMT
#373
LOL cruncher sucks. Cheats every day. I bet you wouldn't cheat in tournaments and thats why you didnt even top 32 at mlg u noob

User was temp banned for this post.
"Hit 'em with a splash attack."
SQSing
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1 Post
May 06 2011 05:18 GMT
#374
It seems like you've found a great way to scout tbh. Why waste probes when you can look @ their screen!


(User was banned for being correct)

User was banned for this post.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 05:38:07
May 06 2011 05:20 GMT
#375
Waiting..waiting

Come one guys don't bring this stuff to a fan club thread.

Edit: Vindication! TL Mods = Win
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
May 06 2011 05:44 GMT
#376
On May 06 2011 14:18 SQSing wrote:
It seems like you've found a great way to scout tbh. Why waste probes when you can look @ their screen!


(User was banned for being correct)

User was banned for this post.

This made me laugh.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
Montezuma
Profile Joined April 2010
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 05:47:11
May 06 2011 05:46 GMT
#377
Remember way back when IdrA was caught checking peoples' build orders by going into their bnet profile? That doesn't provide a whole lot of information, no, but it's an example of someone doing everything they can to collect information on his opponent. I say more power to them both.

Anyway, this was a ladder game we're talking about, right? If so, who cares about stream cheating. People who stream should assume the risk of having others look at what they're broadcasting to the world. Otherwise, IdrA owes Cruncher $.002

Edit: Just read Nu11's post above and completely agree.
Lochat
Profile Joined January 2011
United States270 Posts
May 06 2011 06:09 GMT
#378
On May 06 2011 14:46 Montezuma wrote:
Remember way back when IdrA was caught checking peoples' build orders by going into their bnet profile? That doesn't provide a whole lot of information, no, but it's an example of someone doing everything they can to collect information on his opponent. I say more power to them both.

Anyway, this was a ladder game we're talking about, right? If so, who cares about stream cheating. People who stream should assume the risk of having others look at what they're broadcasting to the world. Otherwise, IdrA owes Cruncher $.002

Edit: Just read Nu11's post above and completely agree.


Did you just say you don't care about cheating in SC2? Really?

Not to mention you think that the opportunity to allow cheating is somehow making it acceptable? No even remotely serious ethical theory in the world would possibly render that reasonable.

Time to hug logic and tell it that somewhere people actually still loves it.
"The trouble was that he was talking in philosophy, but they were listening in gibberish." -- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
May 06 2011 06:15 GMT
#379
On May 06 2011 15:09 Lochat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 06 2011 14:46 Montezuma wrote:
Remember way back when IdrA was caught checking peoples' build orders by going into their bnet profile? That doesn't provide a whole lot of information, no, but it's an example of someone doing everything they can to collect information on his opponent. I say more power to them both.

Anyway, this was a ladder game we're talking about, right? If so, who cares about stream cheating. People who stream should assume the risk of having others look at what they're broadcasting to the world. Otherwise, IdrA owes Cruncher $.002

Edit: Just read Nu11's post above and completely agree.


Did you just say you don't care about cheating in SC2? Really?

Not to mention you think that the opportunity to allow cheating is somehow making it acceptable? No even remotely serious ethical theory in the world would possibly render that reasonable.


Time to hug logic and tell it that somewhere people actually still loves it.


ROFL. Can just picture a curled up little furry animal quivering with fear.

There, there logic. Someone still cares.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 06:44:31
May 06 2011 06:29 GMT
#380
Viewing someone's stream in a ladder game is legitimate. Unless I see rules on why you cannot during ladder, I do not see any reason to cry. Please link me to a TL rule or Battle.net rule that says you may not use streaming to your own advantage in-game.

Do not get me wrong, I am not saying this is the right thing to do morally, but honestly let it go, its legitimate in a way and no policies are being broken.

By terms it is not cheating, as no specific rules are being broken. Stream is released to public, Cruncher is the public, no rules prohibit him from viewing. Sure Cruncher may not have good sportsmanship, but did he "cheat?" No.

Btw really? Ban Cruncher? I understand if people are upset that he did something morally wrong, but ban? What rules did he break exactly?

I am not a cruncher fan, I have not even seen a single game he played before making this post, in fact I was always a fan of IdrA since 2008, but I will not make delusional arguments just because my fave player lost 10 ladder points to a legitimate strategy.

So if anyone can actually debate this in a sophisticated style instead of just capsing about how he cheated, even though he did not, I would appreciate it. Again I am not doing this in defense of Cruncher, as I barely heard of him, but I cannot stand silent looking at such messed up arguments some people are making.
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