EPTI'm sure you will bounce back from this setback and show the real great RTS player you are
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
I'm sure you will bounce back from this setback and show the real great RTS player you are | ||
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jackalope
Taiwan120 Posts
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Nu11
Canada167 Posts
All we know is CrunCher was in the stream, and that he reacted to things he could not see instantly after IdrA said them. Does that mean he cheated? no, though its very unlikely he did not. The point is, it's impossible to prove whether or not it was a legitimate cheat or not. Even if the evidence drastically points towards cheating, there's no solid concrete proof. Furthermore, its a ladder game and means little to nothing and the over reaction on both sides is childish. IdrA streams willingly knowing people he is playing against could watch his stream. There's nothing on the line and if he suspects that it is the case he can just leave the game. He is making money off his stream, and he is also providing a service to his fans. IdrAs record vs. CrunCher is 3 losses 20 wins. He has no reason to get upset and his actions were uncalled for. CrunCher was stream sitting, that's a fact, and that's all anyone can prove. Drop it there, shitting up the community is not going to fix anything. if this was a tournament or a money game it would matter. Point being it's not. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
Too bad for you loss against July and don't listen to the haters | ||
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RQShatter
United States459 Posts
2.) zealots pop out and all his roaches die to cannons 3/) Idra rage quits obviously mad that cruncher outplayed him | ||
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Nu11
Canada167 Posts
On May 06 2011 13:16 RQShatter wrote: 1.) Idra "Oh look he is stream cheating he went 2 gate chronoing stalkers" 2.) zealots pop out and all his roaches die to cannons 3/) Idra rage quits obviously mad that cruncher outplayed him What? there were no zealots, IdrAs Roaches did not die, and CrunCher responded to every single move IdrA did without scouting or any vision. Idra left the second he seen that CrunCher had blind countered him when IdrAs play normally would win agaisnt what he was doing. Not saying he cheated as I said above, but don't make things up. | ||
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FastgunZ
United States35 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
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setmeal
162 Posts
On May 06 2011 12:50 jackalope wrote: Seems like pretty poor judgment on the part of Cruncher if he's trying to win fans. Well, Cruncher definitely won me over with this. Sign me up for the fanclub! Love how he trolls Idra. | ||
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Chinminy
New Zealand41 Posts
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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
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Magikarp
United States32 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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SQSing
United States1 Post
(User was banned for being correct) User was banned for this post. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
Come one guys don't bring this stuff to a fan club thread. Edit: Vindication! TL Mods = Win | ||
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Creationism
China505 Posts
On May 06 2011 14:18 SQSing wrote: It seems like you've found a great way to scout tbh. Why waste probes when you can look @ their screen! (User was banned for being correct) User was banned for this post. This made me laugh. | ||
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Montezuma
United States12 Posts
Anyway, this was a ladder game we're talking about, right? If so, who cares about stream cheating. People who stream should assume the risk of having others look at what they're broadcasting to the world. Otherwise, IdrA owes Cruncher $.002 Edit: Just read Nu11's post above and completely agree. | ||
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Lochat
United States270 Posts
On May 06 2011 14:46 Montezuma wrote: Remember way back when IdrA was caught checking peoples' build orders by going into their bnet profile? That doesn't provide a whole lot of information, no, but it's an example of someone doing everything they can to collect information on his opponent. I say more power to them both. Anyway, this was a ladder game we're talking about, right? If so, who cares about stream cheating. People who stream should assume the risk of having others look at what they're broadcasting to the world. Otherwise, IdrA owes Cruncher $.002 Edit: Just read Nu11's post above and completely agree. Did you just say you don't care about cheating in SC2? Really? Not to mention you think that the opportunity to allow cheating is somehow making it acceptable? No even remotely serious ethical theory in the world would possibly render that reasonable. Time to hug logic and tell it that somewhere people actually still loves it. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On May 06 2011 15:09 Lochat wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 06 2011 14:46 Montezuma wrote: Remember way back when IdrA was caught checking peoples' build orders by going into their bnet profile? That doesn't provide a whole lot of information, no, but it's an example of someone doing everything they can to collect information on his opponent. I say more power to them both. Anyway, this was a ladder game we're talking about, right? If so, who cares about stream cheating. People who stream should assume the risk of having others look at what they're broadcasting to the world. Otherwise, IdrA owes Cruncher $.002 Edit: Just read Nu11's post above and completely agree. Did you just say you don't care about cheating in SC2? Really? Not to mention you think that the opportunity to allow cheating is somehow making it acceptable? No even remotely serious ethical theory in the world would possibly render that reasonable. Time to hug logic and tell it that somewhere people actually still loves it. ROFL. Can just picture a curled up little furry animal quivering with fear. There, there logic. Someone still cares. | ||
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
Do not get me wrong, I am not saying this is the right thing to do morally, but honestly let it go, its legitimate in a way and no policies are being broken. By terms it is not cheating, as no specific rules are being broken. Stream is released to public, Cruncher is the public, no rules prohibit him from viewing. Sure Cruncher may not have good sportsmanship, but did he "cheat?" No. Btw really? Ban Cruncher? I understand if people are upset that he did something morally wrong, but ban? What rules did he break exactly? I am not a cruncher fan, I have not even seen a single game he played before making this post, in fact I was always a fan of IdrA since 2008, but I will not make delusional arguments just because my fave player lost 10 ladder points to a legitimate strategy. So if anyone can actually debate this in a sophisticated style instead of just capsing about how he cheated, even though he did not, I would appreciate it. Again I am not doing this in defense of Cruncher, as I barely heard of him, but I cannot stand silent looking at such messed up arguments some people are making. | ||
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