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silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
January 23 2012 11:30 GMT
#1881
Sign me up! always liked MMA but his code S trash talking makes me a true fan lol.
Liquid`HerO!!!
PenGTrisha
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)27 Posts
January 23 2012 11:32 GMT
#1882
On January 23 2012 20:16 RageCommodore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 08:39 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:16 RageCommodore wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:59 Waterflow wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:56 mordk wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:24 InternalSync wrote:
Such a cold crowd in Kiev, kind of disappointing that he got no cheers. Sure last game was cheesy, but the other 3 were great, he deserved some respect from the crowd. At least he gets my respect, MMA fighting!

Well, Dimaga is the local player. Not just the foreigner, but a Ukranian as well, crowd wanted Dimaga to win.


You can still give the winner some creds and not be immature and soar losers about it. And even if you don't feel like it or want to you can do it anyways just to show good manner. Even pretend if you have to.


The fact that the games were awful didn't help very much. MMA deserved to win, but the matches weren't pretty in any way. It's pretty hard to feel excited (or even pretend to be excited) when the games are as disappointing as they were.


The games were not awful, it all depended on how you looked at it.

Game 1: MMA expects Dimaga to go for mutas, so he hits at pre-spire timing. However, Dimaga was busy making lings instead of droning and overrruns the initial force. Dimaga continues to mass ling/bling, and when MMA moves out, he gets overrun again. Basically Dimaga's unorthodox play hard-countered MMA's build.

Game 2: MMA's hellions and banshees force Dimaga to be on the defense while MMA gets greedy and has 4 orbitals. By losing most of his drones at his 3rd base, as well as some banelings and lings he had made early instead of lings, Dimaga was unable to deal with the mech push. Once again, MMA shows the power of macro Terran: If a zerg lets MMA build up an economy, the game soon reaches a point where victory for the zerg is near impossible short of MMA falling asleep.

Game 3: MMA's reaper expand did a ridiculous amount of damage. Once again, MMA grabs a quick third and gets economically greedy. He prevents Dimaga from attacking him by attacking with hellions and marauders. He later keeps Dimaga occupied by skillfully managed drops. By this point, MMA is 50 supply ahead and 4 bases against a 3 base, lair-tech zerg. Game over for Dimaga

Game 4: MMA notices that Dimaga has always gone for hatch first, late pool. Proxy 2 rax. Wins IEM.

The series showcased MMA's incredible macro style of TvZ, as well as his ability to utilize effective cheese to quickly end a game. If one were only to look at game 4, yes, it would look like a terrible series. But MMA is no BitbyBit. He knew he had a 1 game safety net, where even if the 2 rax failed, he would still have a game left, and noticed how Dimaga opened very greedy. Now that is strategy.


I don't say that MMA did anything wrong. Most good players would have done the same tbh, but that's the point: a player relied on a greedy strategy and got crushed 3 games in a row. The reaper game was especially bad as you could see how Dimaga was falling apart under the pressure. It's not the strategies that bothered me, but the one-sidedness of the games. Seeing somebody go down like that isn't pretty to watch (but that's only my opinion), and it's surely not what you'd expect of the final set of the tournament.
The only reason why somebody could see those as "good" games were if you'd only focus on the employed strategies and the flawless execution on MMA's side. But otherwise, you can't disagree that the finals didn't deliver great games.


What are you trying to prove ?
keke ♥♥
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2117 Posts
January 23 2012 11:41 GMT
#1883
On January 23 2012 20:32 PenGTrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 20:16 RageCommodore wrote:
On January 23 2012 08:39 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:16 RageCommodore wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:59 Waterflow wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:56 mordk wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:24 InternalSync wrote:
Such a cold crowd in Kiev, kind of disappointing that he got no cheers. Sure last game was cheesy, but the other 3 were great, he deserved some respect from the crowd. At least he gets my respect, MMA fighting!

Well, Dimaga is the local player. Not just the foreigner, but a Ukranian as well, crowd wanted Dimaga to win.


You can still give the winner some creds and not be immature and soar losers about it. And even if you don't feel like it or want to you can do it anyways just to show good manner. Even pretend if you have to.


The fact that the games were awful didn't help very much. MMA deserved to win, but the matches weren't pretty in any way. It's pretty hard to feel excited (or even pretend to be excited) when the games are as disappointing as they were.


The games were not awful, it all depended on how you looked at it.

Game 1: MMA expects Dimaga to go for mutas, so he hits at pre-spire timing. However, Dimaga was busy making lings instead of droning and overrruns the initial force. Dimaga continues to mass ling/bling, and when MMA moves out, he gets overrun again. Basically Dimaga's unorthodox play hard-countered MMA's build.

Game 2: MMA's hellions and banshees force Dimaga to be on the defense while MMA gets greedy and has 4 orbitals. By losing most of his drones at his 3rd base, as well as some banelings and lings he had made early instead of lings, Dimaga was unable to deal with the mech push. Once again, MMA shows the power of macro Terran: If a zerg lets MMA build up an economy, the game soon reaches a point where victory for the zerg is near impossible short of MMA falling asleep.

Game 3: MMA's reaper expand did a ridiculous amount of damage. Once again, MMA grabs a quick third and gets economically greedy. He prevents Dimaga from attacking him by attacking with hellions and marauders. He later keeps Dimaga occupied by skillfully managed drops. By this point, MMA is 50 supply ahead and 4 bases against a 3 base, lair-tech zerg. Game over for Dimaga

Game 4: MMA notices that Dimaga has always gone for hatch first, late pool. Proxy 2 rax. Wins IEM.

The series showcased MMA's incredible macro style of TvZ, as well as his ability to utilize effective cheese to quickly end a game. If one were only to look at game 4, yes, it would look like a terrible series. But MMA is no BitbyBit. He knew he had a 1 game safety net, where even if the 2 rax failed, he would still have a game left, and noticed how Dimaga opened very greedy. Now that is strategy.


I don't say that MMA did anything wrong. Most good players would have done the same tbh, but that's the point: a player relied on a greedy strategy and got crushed 3 games in a row. The reaper game was especially bad as you could see how Dimaga was falling apart under the pressure. It's not the strategies that bothered me, but the one-sidedness of the games. Seeing somebody go down like that isn't pretty to watch (but that's only my opinion), and it's surely not what you'd expect of the final set of the tournament.
The only reason why somebody could see those as "good" games were if you'd only focus on the employed strategies and the flawless execution on MMA's side. But otherwise, you can't disagree that the finals didn't deliver great games.


What are you trying to prove ?


It doesnt matter, they both tried their best and the best man won.
John 15:13
Dodgeball
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland141 Posts
January 23 2012 14:46 GMT
#1884
Carmac: "MMA is the most hard-working pro gamer I have ever met. And I've been in esports for 10 years. @SlayerSMMA
"


Carmac: "After winning 1/4 final on Sat MMA stayed to practice for 1 more hr. He showed up at 9:30am on Sun and practiced another 7 hrs for his semi."

K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
January 24 2012 06:46 GMT
#1885
On January 23 2012 23:46 Dodgeball wrote:
Carmac: "MMA is the most hard-working pro gamer I have ever met. And I've been in esports for 10 years. @SlayerSMMA
"
https://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/161234928347004929

Carmac: "After winning 1/4 final on Sat MMA stayed to practice for 1 more hr. He showed up at 9:30am on Sun and practiced another 7 hrs for his semi."

https://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/161238302316441600


Wow, impressive.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
January 24 2012 06:59 GMT
#1886
he just doesnt stop <3
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
January 27 2012 12:02 GMT
#1887
that game against leenock.
Sign me up
Tulkas25
Profile Joined August 2011
Greece292 Posts
January 27 2012 12:16 GMT
#1888
pls i beg theeeee sign me up....
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
Alasper
Profile Joined June 2011
179 Posts
January 27 2012 12:20 GMT
#1889
This.guy.so.fucking.good

Factory to make a choke? What other fucking terran does that? SlayerS Fighting!
Cheering for: STParting, EGHuK, LiquidTaeja, LiquidHerO, LiquidSheth, LiquidTLO, Violet, MvPDongRaeGu, SlayerSMMA, SlayerSCrank, SlayerSCoca, LG-IM Seed
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37099 Posts
January 27 2012 12:24 GMT
#1890
I LOVE YOU!!!

I SO FUCKING LOVE YOU!!!!!!

LOVE YOU SO MUCH MMA!!!!

MMA > Lucky
MMA > Leenock
MMA > Oz

I can sleep happy now
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
January 27 2012 12:26 GMT
#1891
On January 27 2012 21:24 Seeker wrote:
I LOVE YOU!!!

I SO FUCKING LOVE YOU!!!!!!

LOVE YOU SO MUCH MMA!!!!

MMA > Lucky
MMA > Leenock
MMA > Oz

I can sleep happy now



Same here, for only 3 hours sleep. MMA's the first progamer I stay up late to watch play @@. The longer the game vs Leenock went, MMA just powered up.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 27 2012 12:28 GMT
#1892
On January 27 2012 21:20 Alasper wrote:
This.guy.so.fucking.good

Factory to make a choke? What other fucking terran does that? SlayerS Fighting!


A lot of players have done it before...
Liquipedia"Expert"
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
January 27 2012 12:39 GMT
#1893
y so handsome :D
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
solid.PhanT
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany144 Posts
January 27 2012 12:47 GMT
#1894
Leenock. Who?
It looked so easy :D
MMA fighting~~~
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2117 Posts
January 27 2012 14:01 GMT
#1895
Legend Killer!
John 15:13
SockArms
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States591 Posts
January 27 2012 14:33 GMT
#1896
Why am I not in here count me in!
| Cloud9 | DK | Liquid |
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 27 2012 18:22 GMT
#1897
3 Kills against FXO's finest, taking the win for Slayers. Easy
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
SKiller
Profile Joined November 2011
Poland39 Posts
January 27 2012 18:54 GMT
#1898
Count me in!
"More GG, more skill" White Ra
Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
February 01 2012 18:08 GMT
#1899
On January 27 2012 21:24 Seeker wrote:
I LOVE YOU!!!

I SO FUCKING LOVE YOU!!!!!!

LOVE YOU SO MUCH MMA!!!!

MMA > Lucky
MMA > Leenock
MMA > Oz

I can sleep happy now

taitanik
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia231 Posts
February 02 2012 11:21 GMT
#1900
just saw a game mma vs puzzle so guys if 4 bunkers doesnt stop immortal push what does?
"the game is over only when you make it over"
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