The HuK Fan Club - Page 211

On August 17 2011 05:05 EnderCraft wrote:
To all of you "signing out."

If you're a true HuK fan you will respect any decision that he makes. If HuK feel's hes better off on a team like EG, then by all means he should pursue it. Would I prefer if HuK stayed on liquid? Yes, without a doubt. However at the end of the day, it's all about what's best for the players we support and I welcome HuK's decision with a supportive and open mind.

On August 17 2011 05:36 Talin wrote:
Can there be successful esports organizations without successful esports? That's something the west never really had in the first place

On August 17 2011 06:20 Esjihn wrote:
i love huk. but now im gonna be heart broken every time he makes the heart and the camera pans to his new shirt ......

On August 17 2011 06:21 Morphling_ wrote:


E-Sports != Starcraft only.

On August 17 2011 06:21 Fadetowhite wrote:


he is on EG they only do tumb down right?

On August 17 2011 05:36 Talin wrote:


Can there be successful esports organizations without successful esports? That's something the west never really had in the first place, not in small part due to the superficial and greedy understanding of "business" that people at the forefront of western esports always seem to have.

EG and SK are journeyman organizations that have mastered the art of predatory survival in the chaos that western esports always was, and by the looks of it, always will be. "Renown" and "success" are really not a suitable way to describe them - but it's okay, we probably have different criteria.

On August 17 2011 06:28 cavalier117 wrote:
Predatory survival? you mean that they operate in the real world. not in some make believe land of bullshit and false promises. lets talk renown;

SK gaming- known in the world as starting esports teams in general and having the best CS and WoW teams. nearly 8 of the 12 million WoW subscribers alone know them for their WoW raiding prowess, not even counting CS fans. Everyone (fans and journalists) call them the best of the best in WoW. hold virtually all of the world firsts for 3 years.

EG-Has Justin Wong, the most popular figure in the fighting scene. only Diago compares(but noone knows who he even is sadly) Also has Idra- no explanation needed. now HuK. basically have the most popular players in NA. even the world as noone in europe or korea compares to Idra in fame or fanbase. EG is a household name bc of this.

this makes both of these teams the most popular esports teams in the world. complexity ranking high with them as well. neither liquid nor any korean teams for BW or SC2 come close.

success? well lets just do EG.they have the financial backing to put 2 houses together in two different countries to raise the level of competition. as well as have the 2 highest paid players in esports. enough money in fact that any other teams(except presumably FXO) that other teams cant even offer a remotely close offer. and they are only getting bigger. and I'd say that makes them successful.

so yea, success and renown would be proper words to descibe them id say.

just because your part of the vocal minority of haters doesnt make your opinion the popular one. has controversial shit happened? yes. such is life. people like you blow it way out of proportion and make things worse than they really are. but thats ok. life goes on. and so do these businesses, and look none of it ever hurt them in the first place.

the dumbest part of your argument is definately this though

"Can there be successful esports organizations without successful esports? That's something the west never really had in the first place, not in small part due to the superficial and greedy understanding of "business" that people at the forefront of western esports always seem to have."

the west never had a big sports scene bc bw started before the age of internet in every household, and when there was internet, noone gave a shit about an antiquated game like BW. "moral business models" had nothing to do with it. but then you say that the korean model is the best way to do it to make esports successful. Reality check. Korea's "model" is failing and the they are falling off. (hence all the TSL crying and all the Korean teams dropping out of the NASL bc of lack of money) so what model works again? oh yea. the obvious one.

its clear you dont like EG and thats fine. but dont try and veil with falsehoods and more biased opinions disguised as facts. Be happy for HuK for expanding his horizons, nothing bad could come from this. but alot more could be gained.

On August 17 2011 06:42 Jinsho wrote:


This is a pretty good post.

All in all there's a lot of children posting with teary eyes about how their childhood hero sold out and how they will NEVER LOVE ANYONE ever again. Add phrases they've heard somewhere like "greedy esports", "korean disrespect", "something something PuMa", and you get the typical reaction to this.

On August 17 2011 05:05 EnderCraft wrote:
To all of you "signing out."

If you're a true HuK fan you will respect any decision that he makes. If HuK feel's hes better off on a team like EG, then by all means he should pursue it. Would I prefer if HuK stayed on liquid? Yes, without a doubt. However at the end of the day, it's all about what's best for the players we support and I welcome HuK's decision with a supportive and open mind.