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MediaOcrity
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia25 Posts
June 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#15501
I'm just wondering why zergs like Morrow are going for a more ling/bling style against protoss now and taking advantage of banelings bombs, mines, and good positional flanking to overcome protoss and IdrA has hardly shown it.

Would love to see IdrA do some of these
EGIdrA FvRMediaOcrity
Toothless`xelrae
Profile Joined November 2010
94 Posts
June 20 2011 07:06 GMT
#15502
dreamhack just lost a viewer coz idra aint in it :\
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
June 20 2011 07:15 GMT
#15503
On June 20 2011 13:41 Zeetee wrote:
IdrA, i'm your biggest fan. In fact, i even made this video for you, in hopes that you will get back on your feet. You'll take out that damn korean some day man, hang in there.


Not to put down your video in anyway, i love all support that we can give to IdrA, but you bascially re-quoted every balance whine and everything that the Mods banned from the LR. I just think that pick better posts (ones that people did not get banned/warned for) might be a smarter move.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
June 20 2011 07:20 GMT
#15504
Idra has shown many styles of ZvP but considers ling bling infestor something that works well against weaker players who don't have the multitasking to dodge baneling bombs. It is also extremely weak to timings and a player like MC would rofl it. It also requires partially on fail forcefields because your zerglings are not hitting the enemy any time soon.
shredzy
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 09:07:44
June 20 2011 08:59 GMT
#15505
On June 20 2011 13:41 Zeetee wrote:
IdrA, i'm your biggest fan. In fact, i even made this video for you, in hopes that you will get back on your feet. You'll take out that damn korean some day man, hang in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsWsIrrbTs


LOL

Check out all the balance whiners/idra fanboys, all have 100> post count, back battle net forums where ya belong, no body wants to see your shit.

EDIT: Oh the irony, my post count is low yes but I hardly post.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 20 2011 09:06 GMT
#15506
On June 20 2011 16:15 MaxField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 13:41 Zeetee wrote:
IdrA, i'm your biggest fan. In fact, i even made this video for you, in hopes that you will get back on your feet. You'll take out that damn korean some day man, hang in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsWsIrrbTs

Not to put down your video in anyway, i love all support that we can give to IdrA, but you bascially re-quoted every balance whine and everything that the Mods banned from the LR. I just think that pick better posts (ones that people did not get banned/warned for) might be a smarter move.


he's just showing how passionate and crazy his fans are about him. Showcasing the chaos that arose after his loss because so many fans took it so hard.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 20 2011 09:08 GMT
#15507
Don't get mad at protoss guys, it's just that MC is too good.
Fyrn
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany62 Posts
June 20 2011 09:17 GMT
#15508
he's just showing how passionate and crazy his fans are about him. Showcasing the chaos that arose after his loss because so many fans took it so hard.


Precisely. I haven't been very passionate about eSport in the past - IdrA is my "first big eSport love", I'd say. Seeing him play excites me and seeing him loose upsets me.

However, it's not necessary to bomb a thread with an all out capslock rage. They should start a diary instead.
"I mean I could always win MLG Providence next year.." - The Little One
Snettik
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland186 Posts
June 20 2011 09:17 GMT
#15509
On June 20 2011 17:59 shredzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 13:41 Zeetee wrote:
IdrA, i'm your biggest fan. In fact, i even made this video for you, in hopes that you will get back on your feet. You'll take out that damn korean some day man, hang in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsWsIrrbTs


LOL

Check out all the balance whiners/idra fanboys, all have 100> post count, back battle net forums where ya belong, no body wants to see your shit.

EDIT: Oh the irony, my post count is low yes but I hardly post.


Nobody want idra fanboys in idra fanclub?
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
June 20 2011 09:28 GMT
#15510
There are several issues with blink in my opinion.
The biggest one being that if you blink a stalker at the right time you will dodge roach shots. This is actually huge, since roaches overkill so for example 3 roaches meant to shoot a stalker hit nothing at all with just 1 blink. It might actually be balanced just after fixing this. Blink is not really overpowered since you still got FGs, but it's definitely too strong.
The next issue is taht blink got no animation time and therefore is too easy to micro. Roach burrow for instance got an animation time, which makes it hard to gauge when to burrow your roaches. With blink you just need to blink the damaged stalkers back and if they got shot at that time they will dodge it.
The 3rd issue is that you can blink too often in my opinion. You should barely be able to blink the same stalker twice in a battle so I'd suggest increasing the cooldown to 30 seconds. However, this is the least favorable tweak and I'd like to see the first one applied the most followed by the second one.

I think we may very well see a change in the next patch. As of now, just try to get those infestors out ~~
Serdiuk
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium145 Posts
June 20 2011 09:28 GMT
#15511


Interview with IdrA at Dreamhack.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
June 20 2011 10:13 GMT
#15512
On June 20 2011 18:17 Snettik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 17:59 shredzy wrote:
On June 20 2011 13:41 Zeetee wrote:
IdrA, i'm your biggest fan. In fact, i even made this video for you, in hopes that you will get back on your feet. You'll take out that damn korean some day man, hang in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsWsIrrbTs


LOL

Check out all the balance whiners/idra fanboys, all have 100> post count, back battle net forums where ya belong, no body wants to see your shit.

EDIT: Oh the irony, my post count is low yes but I hardly post.


Nobody want idra fanboys in idra fanclub?

fans =/= fanboys :D
uproar
Profile Joined June 2011
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:20:52
June 20 2011 10:15 GMT
#15513
On June 20 2011 18:08 tomatriedes wrote:
Don't get mad at protoss guys, it's just that MC is too good.

The funny but irritating fact is that MC has to be good without showing anything of it. You can see no multitasking, no harassment at all. All he manages to do is to lay down proper forcefields and micro blinkstalkers well (nothing overwhelming though). Sometimes he goes for a deathball after camping on three bases. Sometimes he goes for blinkstalkers only. He almost exclusively rushes attack upgrades as Stalkers don't really need Armor if you blink them back before their shields are down. Just doesn't seem any special although in fact it might be if no zerg in the world can really keep up with it without counter cheese. I'm not good enough to judge it but if I had to describe his playstyle I'd call it "abusive" at the best.

@Decaf: Doubling the coodown for Blink would be huge as Mutas could lay waste to Protoss bases again. The cooldown is too short though. Blinkstalkers are insanly mobile because of their high base speed in combination with blink.
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
June 20 2011 10:19 GMT
#15514
uproar wtf are you saying? MC is showing mad skills in any tuornament...
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
uproar
Profile Joined June 2011
9 Posts
June 20 2011 10:23 GMT
#15515
On June 20 2011 19:19 darlhet wrote:
uproar wtf are you saying? MC is showing mad skills in any tuornament...

What is so special about his play? And I'm exclusively speaking about PvZ. His PvP and PvT might be extraordinary but especially judging from his last PvZ I fail to see what makes his play so extremely good and extraordinary.
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:27:15
June 20 2011 10:26 GMT
#15516
He is saying that, with the exceptions of good FF's and nice blink micro, he can not see what exactly MC's "mad skills" are. And hence he concludes that what makes MC win so much is not really individual "skill", but merely the knowledge about how and when to "abuse" the mechanics of protoss. (Gateway instant reinforcements, chrono boost, 200 supply deathball)

Did I understand you correctly there, uproar?
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
JayPower
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands171 Posts
June 20 2011 10:29 GMT
#15517
Haha IdrA is in a pool with Cruncher, Spanishiwa, Goody and Tarson.

http://geforce.cevo.com/event/geforce-starcraft-2-pro-am/competitors/ in the GeForce tournement.
Jaypowersc2.com for Guides, Videos, Replays and Coaching
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:31:58
June 20 2011 10:31 GMT
#15518
On June 20 2011 19:29 JayPower wrote:
Haha IdrA is in a pool with Cruncher, Spanishiwa, Goody and Tarson.

http://geforce.cevo.com/event/geforce-starcraft-2-pro-am/competitors/ in the GeForce tournement.


Well.. I don't want to say "walkovers".. but that's the word that sprang to mind..
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
JayPower
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands171 Posts
June 20 2011 10:33 GMT
#15519
On June 20 2011 19:31 Junichi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:29 JayPower wrote:
Haha IdrA is in a pool with Cruncher, Spanishiwa, Goody and Tarson.

http://geforce.cevo.com/event/geforce-starcraft-2-pro-am/competitors/ in the GeForce tournement.


Well.. I don't want to say "walkovers".. but that's the word that sprang to mind..


Yea tbh I think he got one of the easier groups. Considering lots of top koreans will play in the tournement. Even Nestea :O
Jaypowersc2.com for Guides, Videos, Replays and Coaching
uproar
Profile Joined June 2011
9 Posts
June 20 2011 10:40 GMT
#15520
On June 20 2011 19:26 Junichi wrote:
He is saying that, with the exceptions of good FF's and nice blink micro, he can not see what exactly MC's "mad skills" are. And hence he concludes that what makes MC win so much is not really individual "skill", but merely the knowledge about how and when to "abuse" the mechanics of protoss. (Gateway instant reinforcements, chrono boost, 200 supply deathball)

Did I understand you correctly there, uproar?

Pretty exactly.

I absolutely admit that MC has very good game knowledge and knows his timings very well. No question here. But what he basically does is massing blink stalkers over and over - usually with pretty fast 003 as stalkers don't benefit from armor except in PvP.
What he does takes skill and a lot of practice but in PvZ at least I account much of his dominating position at the moment to the state of the matchup. Blink stalkers are ridiculously cost effective against any zerg army and even the supposed hard counters are not as hard as they should be.

The only one who took a ZvP of Mc in this dreamhack was GGNaugrim. Look at the game. Naugrim basically needed a composition of ultralisks, broodlords and infestors to fight MC. The sad thing is that it only came to this situation because MC failed to scout a hidden hatch of Naugrim. Otherwise he would have been dead by then. The positions and map were exactly like in game 2 idra vs MC.

If someone says MC is a very good protoss because he uses protoss mechanics at its best I will fully agree. It's exactly what he should do as he is a progamer and plays for money and success.

If someone says:"Oh, poor idra, you gave you're best but MC is just too good". I tend to disagree and note that MC would be not nearly as succesful as he is with Zerg.
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