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TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
June 13 2011 21:58 GMT
#14201
I'm betting that IdrA and Kas make it out of their group. I haven't heard much from sase though.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
June 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#14202
You've got to have a huge ego for not gg'ing against BoxeR. This shows Idra ranks himself pretty high up there, to think that he can show no sportsmanship to the man who's won multiple championships and made esports what it is today.

Not saying who's right and who's wrong, he can do whatever he wants. For all we know Idra might actually be "big" enough, judging by his fan base.
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Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 22:00:21
June 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#14203
To me, Boxer is only famous for being the Slayers coach in SC2, though. It's not like we're still playing the same game. He is not even in the GSL anymore, or is he?
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
June 13 2011 22:00 GMT
#14204
On June 14 2011 06:53 Shalaiyn wrote:
IdrA got possibly the easiest group at Dreamhack.

http://www.dreamhack.se/DHS11/2011/06/13/july-the-groups/

Lets see whether he can take it!

finally he gets an easy group T_______T it's been groups of death over and over it seems.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
June 13 2011 22:03 GMT
#14205
On June 14 2011 06:55 Clog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 06:40 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:
On June 14 2011 05:30 Basagu wrote:
So sad for IdrA, Boxer just cheesed him because he knows IdrA hates that.

I'm sorry but Boxer didn't cheese him for that, he did that because, as the bloody Emperor, he has ALWAYS played to win. Plus, it's Boxer, hate him, think of him whatever you want, but it's like playing a football match with Maradona/Pele and not shaking hands with them after the game is over. You just do it. No matter who you are and how you're feeling.


So you do it because you're "supposed to"

If you're new, IdrA doesn't give a damn about what others think of him or about acting a certain way to please people

How on earth is this being considered surprising or even being discussed? He's IdrA, he's been like this, people either love him or hate him for it, so please just make your decision and leave it at that - don't post on his fan club telling him how to act


If you knew IdrA before sc2 you would not have posted that. He only bm's people that are 'under' him, so to speak. Before, he would not even dream of giving attitude to a bonjwa.
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
June 13 2011 22:03 GMT
#14206
On June 14 2011 07:00 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 06:53 Shalaiyn wrote:
IdrA got possibly the easiest group at Dreamhack.

http://www.dreamhack.se/DHS11/2011/06/13/july-the-groups/

Lets see whether he can take it!

finally he gets an easy group T_______T it's been groups of death over and over it seems.


Being idra ofcourse makes his group harder by default. just not for him
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
June 13 2011 22:04 GMT
#14207
On June 14 2011 06:59 Jinsho wrote:
To me, Boxer is only famous for being the Slayers coach in SC2, though. It's not like we're still playing the same game. He is not even in the GSL anymore, or is he?


I remember watching GSTL and it didn't list him as coach, not even the captain. So maybe he's the creator? It said Coach: Cella, Captain: MMA
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MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
June 13 2011 22:08 GMT
#14208
On June 14 2011 07:03 W2 wrote:


If you knew IdrA before sc2 you would not have posted that. He only bm's people that are 'under' him, so to speak. Before, he would not even dream of giving attitude to a bonjwa.


I'd be willing to argue that idra is better then Boxer in SC2.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 13 2011 22:13 GMT
#14209
I was a die-hard fan actually until yesterday!

His shenanigans at MLG and his previous early-gg's were fine, to a certain extent. It's stupid and childish but that's why I liked him. Quitting games without gg'ing and all around BM was cute and everything...

However, when you lose to Boxer, you gg, IMO. Evil Geniuses and their sponsors should be ashamed, slap his fingers for disrespecting the greatest gamer of all times. Boxer's never been anything except extremely well mannered, no reason to be an ass to him.

Still a fan though, but hopefully he keeps his childish attitude for small-times players... That's what I like
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 13 2011 22:19 GMT
#14210
On June 14 2011 07:00 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 06:53 Shalaiyn wrote:
IdrA got possibly the easiest group at Dreamhack.

http://www.dreamhack.se/DHS11/2011/06/13/july-the-groups/

Lets see whether he can take it!

finally he gets an easy group T_______T it's been groups of death over and over it seems.

it doesn't seem...it was constant groups of death. i really cannot recall idra having an easy group in all of SC2's history. he needs a break lol
Dubpace
Profile Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
June 13 2011 22:21 GMT
#14211
On June 14 2011 06:34 Manimal_pro wrote:
why is this not in the OP?



Wow whoever made this has sick talent..IdrA has got to love this. Even though I know the context of the song >.< TT
Arkan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada78 Posts
June 13 2011 22:44 GMT
#14212
On June 14 2011 07:13 Djzapz wrote:
I was a die-hard fan actually until yesterday!

His shenanigans at MLG and his previous early-gg's were fine, to a certain extent. It's stupid and childish but that's why I liked him. Quitting games without gg'ing and all around BM was cute and everything...

However, when you lose to Boxer, you gg, IMO. Evil Geniuses and their sponsors should be ashamed, slap his fingers for disrespecting the greatest gamer of all times. Boxer's never been anything except extremely well mannered, no reason to be an ass to him.

Still a fan though, but hopefully he keeps his childish attitude for small-times players... That's what I like


Boxer is not what he was in BW in Starcraft 2 now. He is not some sort of god and shouldnt get any more respect the any other pro gamer.Your making a big deal out of nothing at all.

nYaLa
Profile Joined January 2011
Uzbekistan295 Posts
June 13 2011 22:47 GMT
#14213
On June 14 2011 07:00 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 06:53 Shalaiyn wrote:
IdrA got possibly the easiest group at Dreamhack.

http://www.dreamhack.se/DHS11/2011/06/13/july-the-groups/

Lets see whether he can take it!

finally he gets an easy group T_______T it's been groups of death over and over it seems.


hmmm i'm not so sure if it's easiest group... SaSe and Kas are beastly players.
ofcourse IdrA can make it out of the group, just hope he doesn't underestimate those players ^^
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 13 2011 22:55 GMT
#14214
On June 14 2011 07:44 Arkan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:13 Djzapz wrote:
I was a die-hard fan actually until yesterday!

His shenanigans at MLG and his previous early-gg's were fine, to a certain extent. It's stupid and childish but that's why I liked him. Quitting games without gg'ing and all around BM was cute and everything...

However, when you lose to Boxer, you gg, IMO. Evil Geniuses and their sponsors should be ashamed, slap his fingers for disrespecting the greatest gamer of all times. Boxer's never been anything except extremely well mannered, no reason to be an ass to him.

Still a fan though, but hopefully he keeps his childish attitude for small-times players... That's what I like


Boxer is not what he was in BW in Starcraft 2 now. He is not some sort of god and shouldnt get any more respect the any other pro gamer.Your making a big deal out of nothing at all.

You're*

Boxer's an old guy who spanked IdrA and could do it again because our little zerg is emotionally unstable and obviously disturbed. You don't get that BM unless you're seriously shaken up! (Which is awesome)

Of course he's not what he was when he was a youngling, in fact IdrA is almost certainly the better player. However, the Emperor or Terran is still damn good for an old guy who's well past his prime, and deserves respect anyway because in the end, he's an icon of "e-sports". He doesn't deserve respect only based on his current skill, though he's actually not bad at all... He deserves respect because you don't dismiss a legend because he's too old to fight... (Even less so after the old man snaps your neck while you're at your peak)

If IdrA ever manages to accomplish anything (and he hasn't), there's still going to be a point where he'll be too old to play and he'll have to find another way to earn his money.

Unfortunately, he'll probably have to go back to school or whatever - but even then, it'll be important to remember that in the past, he was a baller.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
June 13 2011 22:58 GMT
#14215
On June 14 2011 06:58 TUski wrote:
I'm betting that IdrA and Kas make it out of their group. I haven't heard much from sase though.


Sase among the Europeans is most likely the second best protoss next to Nani. He has even beat Nani in tournaments such as the road to Korea tournament. He is also used as the ace for his team in clan wars like the EGMC. My prediction would be Idra and Sase to come out of the group.
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
June 13 2011 23:00 GMT
#14216
Lol @ people getting al upset idra didn't gg, I mean, really?
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
June 13 2011 23:00 GMT
#14217
On June 14 2011 06:59 W2 wrote:
You've got to have a huge ego for not gg'ing against BoxeR. This shows Idra ranks himself pretty high up there, to think that he can show no sportsmanship to the man who's won multiple championships and made esports what it is today.

Not saying who's right and who's wrong, he can do whatever he wants. For all we know Idra might actually be "big" enough, judging by his fan base.


IdrA gg's if he feels it was a good game. The early rushes are rarely good games in his book, so he doesn't gg. I'm surprised people don't grasp this by now.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
June 13 2011 23:05 GMT
#14218
On June 14 2011 07:55 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:44 Arkan wrote:
On June 14 2011 07:13 Djzapz wrote:
I was a die-hard fan actually until yesterday!

His shenanigans at MLG and his previous early-gg's were fine, to a certain extent. It's stupid and childish but that's why I liked him. Quitting games without gg'ing and all around BM was cute and everything...

However, when you lose to Boxer, you gg, IMO. Evil Geniuses and their sponsors should be ashamed, slap his fingers for disrespecting the greatest gamer of all times. Boxer's never been anything except extremely well mannered, no reason to be an ass to him.

Still a fan though, but hopefully he keeps his childish attitude for small-times players... That's what I like


Boxer is not what he was in BW in Starcraft 2 now. He is not some sort of god and shouldnt get any more respect the any other pro gamer.Your making a big deal out of nothing at all.

You're*

Boxer's an old guy who spanked IdrA and could do it again because our little zerg is emotionally unstable and obviously disturbed. You don't get that BM unless you're seriously shaken up! (Which is awesome)

Of course he's not what he was when he was a youngling, in fact IdrA is almost certainly the better player. However, the Emperor or Terran is still damn good for an old guy who's well past his prime, and deserves respect anyway because in the end, he's an icon of "e-sports". He doesn't deserve respect only based on his current skill, though he's actually not bad at all... He deserves respect because you don't dismiss a legend because he's too old to fight... (Even less so after the old man snaps your neck while you're at your peak)

If IdrA ever manages to accomplish anything (and he hasn't), there's still going to be a point where he'll be too old to play and he'll have to find another way to earn his money.

Unfortunately, he'll probably have to go back to school or whatever - but even then, it'll be important to remember that in the past, he was a baller.

winning IPL, placing well consistently in GSL and MLG = not an accomplishment

please leave if you are no longer an idra fan, as this is still the idra fanclub
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 23:09:09
June 13 2011 23:06 GMT
#14219
However, the Emperor or Terran is still damn good for an old guy who's well past his prime


He's past his prime?

I don't know any pro who thinks that going from his late teens to early 20s or early 20s to late-mid 20s has caused some kind of physical decline that has lowered his ability.

I think if Boxer dedicated himself to being a pro gamer instead of a coach, he would find himself at least in if not on top of the top 5 Terrans list in the world.

As for IdrA not GGing...

IdrA gg's if he feels it was a good game. The early rushes are rarely good games in his book, so he doesn't gg. I'm surprised people don't grasp this by now.


This.

I don't gg either if I don't think it literally was a good game. If I feel like I've played badly I don't gg, because it wasn't a gg. It was half a gg. I didn't hold up my end. Or, if the other player cheeses or rushes or whatever, it's probably not a good game either. He didn't hold up his end.
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wzzit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States201 Posts
June 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#14220
On June 14 2011 08:06 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
However, the Emperor or Terran is still damn good for an old guy who's well past his prime


He's past his prime?

I don't know any pro who thinks that going from his late teens to early 20s or early 20s to late-mid 20s has caused some kind of physical decline that has lowered his ability.

I think if Boxer dedicated himself to being a pro gamer instead of a coach, he would find himself at least in if not on top of the top 5 Terrans list in the world.



You must be new to the scene. The widespread consensus is that progamers peak in their early 20s. CJMuch was nicknamed "grandpa toss" because he was considered to be extremely old for a progamer when he was only 24 years old. For a progamer to continue experiencing success in their late 20s and early 30s is almost unheard of. The only examples I can think of are Nestea and Boxer.
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