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On November 09 2011 03:06 Crassulacean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote:
Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right. Stop being an idiot and go watch the vs jinro games in IEM china.I have been noticing for the last few pages you have been very critical of idra. You used to be the owner of this fanclub and a big idra fanboy.What the fuck happened to you and What the fuck are even doing in this fanclub if you are not going to support? Stop posting negative shit like "He is not code s calibur" "I dont think he will win vs x" "I dont think he is good" that shit just depresses the hell out of me. Sure Idra gave a hard time for his fans dropping games he should have won and make an asshat of himself! but he has changed now.His playstyle is very inspiring.
On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote:
Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit.
Right.
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On November 09 2011 02:18 damod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote:
Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right. iirc the 6 pool was a calculated risk, since idrA does not have a reputation of cheesing ;P but im pretty sure that most of the games jinro played and won against idrA were macro games :/
The 6pool was a great decision, Idra just got unlucky with the marine.
On November 09 2011 02:26 Makura wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 02:18 damod wrote:On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote:
Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right. iirc the 6 pool was a calculated risk, since idrA does not have a reputation of cheesing ;P but im pretty sure that most of the games jinro played and won against idrA were macro games :/ in the interview after Jinro also said that the only reason he was able to react he also heard the announces and crowd go "OOOOOOOOOO" so he figured something was up, thus started the improvement on sound proofing the players
I'm pretty sure that this was a different game. Or perhaps he did hear them but he didn't do any special preparation for the 6pool. After the game he said that he panicked and cancelled a marine by mistake, so Idra actually missed it with his zerglings.
On November 09 2011 03:09 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote:
Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right. thats not really a fair comment. it was on the map (sorry, dont remember the exact name) where zerg had to take a third pushing toward the terran in the center of the map where the siege tanks could sit at the terran's third and shell the zerg. Overall, a completely unbalanced map that isnt even used anymore. Idra told artosis before the series even started that if they made it to that map, he would 6 pool because once siege tanks are out, its just to easy to deny a zerg third and contain him to 2 base.
I didn't say that Idra has been cheesy or anything, I just responded to the "omg Jinro is a cheesy noob" comment. He is no more of a cheeser than Idra is and most of the games he won against Idra were proper ones. The only exception was that one game on close positions on metalopolis when Idra didn't bring a drone to the bottom of his ramp, so Jinro built two bunkers.
If being an Idra fan means that I am supposed to shit on great community figures such as Jinro, well, I'm not an Idra fan then.
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On November 09 2011 03:20 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 03:06 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote:
Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right. Stop being an idiot and go watch the vs jinro games in IEM china.I have been noticing for the last few pages you have been very critical of idra. You used to be the owner of this fanclub and a big idra fanboy.What the fuck happened to you and What the fuck are even doing in this fanclub if you are not going to support? Stop posting negative shit like "He is not code s calibur" "I dont think he will win vs x" "I dont think he is good" that shit just depresses the hell out of me. Sure Idra gave a hard time for his fans dropping games he should have won and make an asshat of himself! but he has changed now.His playstyle is very inspiring. Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote:
Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Right.
C'mon now. Just admit your comment was uncalled for.
Edit: Oh yeah, then you just toally write another post D:
Edit2: Not really uncalled for, just unecesarry
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Stop arguing about this. xtfftc has been expressing his opinion in a perfectly respectful way, y'all are just overreacting.
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=270931¤tpage=58#1149
On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.
That's only my opinion however. Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game.
After Jinro beat IdrA at IEM. Just sharin'.
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So guys, that IdrA guy is really good at SC2
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On November 09 2011 03:50 Enhancer_ wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=270931¤tpage=58#1149Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.
That's only my opinion however. Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game. After Jinro beat IdrA at IEM. Just sharin'.
Jinro's right though. It might not win him fans (just like Puma's infamous 1-1-1 builds), but it works. I still respect IdrA's play more, but there's no way I can fault Jinro.
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Stop posting negative shit like "He is not code s calibur"
Just had to comment on this. In my opinion, there's nobody finer for Code S currently than IdrA. How can you think anything else?
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I guess making mutalisks is a useful talent toi have
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Yes. Yes, it is actually.
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On November 09 2011 04:21 TORTOISE wrote:
I guess making mutalisks and using them well is a useful talent toi have
Fixed
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On November 09 2011 04:36 Macrobe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 04:21 TORTOISE wrote:
I guess making mutalisks and using them well is a useful talent toi have Fixed
indeed
idra makes it work just like he did make roach hydra work when everyone else abandoned it (i guess he kinda made it work  )
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It's funny how idra being 10 points higher than Huk in MLG points makes him #1, which gives him a much much harder bracket lol
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On November 09 2011 08:05 SafeAsCheese wrote:
It's funny how idra being 10 points higher than Huk in MLG points makes him #1, which gives him a much much harder bracket lol
Very funny indeed >.< More potential for good games!
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On November 09 2011 08:10 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 08:05 SafeAsCheese wrote:
It's funny how idra being 10 points higher than Huk in MLG points makes him #1, which gives him a much much harder bracket lol Very funny indeed >.< More potential for good games!
What IdrA has to look forward to
OWB#1 might be nestea (best zvz in world) / mvp (best TvZ in world).
Bomber = top 5 terran
MC = Top 3 protoss in world, IdrA's best friend tourney brotoss and kryptonite
If he can manage to beat the person who comes out at the top of that, he probably has to play DongRaeGu (top 5 zerg) or MMA (Arguably MVP's equal in every matchup)
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On November 09 2011 08:10 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 08:05 SafeAsCheese wrote:
It's funny how idra being 10 points higher than Huk in MLG points makes him #1, which gives him a much much harder bracket lol Very funny indeed >.< More potential for good games!
Even more lulz if Nestea/MVP end up there as well.
Still, every time a foreigner wins a tournament, it is because another person decided to knock the best Koreans (except Idra IEM). Idra will be the unsung hero of Providence, as Huk wins his 3rd MLG.
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On November 09 2011 08:14 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 08:10 Aocowns wrote:On November 09 2011 08:05 SafeAsCheese wrote:
It's funny how idra being 10 points higher than Huk in MLG points makes him #1, which gives him a much much harder bracket lol Very funny indeed >.< More potential for good games! What IdrA has to look forward to OWB#1 might be nestea (best zvz in world) / mvp (best TvZ in world). Bomber = top 5 terran MC = Top 3 protoss in world, IdrA's best friend tourney brotoss and kryptonite If he can manage to beat the person who comes out at the top of that, he probably has to play DongRaeGu (top 5 zerg) or MMA (Arguably MVP's equal in every matchup)
Hell yeah! He can take a none cheesing Bomber. If he practises his ZvP he might be able to take MC too. I think he's got a fair chance against MMA as well, considering Idra's mutas would nullify most of the drops. I don't know anything about DRG ZvZ though.
MvP and Nestea is a brick wall though
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On November 09 2011 08:10 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 08:05 SafeAsCheese wrote:
It's funny how idra being 10 points higher than Huk in MLG points makes him #1, which gives him a much much harder bracket lol Very funny indeed >.< More potential for good games!
As long as he wins them!
He got the easiest group imaginable last mlg so I don't mind if this one is more difficult
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A macro game between idra and MVP right now just might be way good even tho imMVP is heavly favoured but as you seen the bomber vs idra at last MLG his macro game can competes with immvp
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On November 09 2011 08:22 unnar wrote:
A macro game between idra and MVP right now just might be way good even tho imMVP is heavly favoured but as you seen the bomber vs idra at last MLG his macro game can competes with immvp
bomber playing a macro game is different from mvp. bomber literally doesnt attack, mvp still puts light pressure
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