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On November 08 2011 23:54 Betsfrox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 23:49 SafeAsCheese wrote: NASL question
2. IdrA 4-2 10-5 3. KiWiKaKi 4-2 8-6 4. Jinro 3-3 7-6
If am to understand it
EVEN IF jinro 2-0's idra, idra is 10-7 (3) and Jinro is 9-6 (3)
NASL tiebreak says
1. Number of match wins.
2. Match score difference (walkovers hasn't always resulted in a recorded loss for the missing player). 3. Game score difference. -> ? 4. Head to head score. -> ?
So IdrA would be in regardless?
This is assuming Kiwikaki losses to MorroW (quite likely, morrow is beast in PvZ).
If IdrA losses 1-2, he will be 11-7(4), and even if Kiwi wins 2-0, he will be 10-6 (4). Does this mean IdrA also still gets top 2?
So the ONLY way for idra to NOT be top 2, is to lose 0-2 to Jinro and for Kiwi to Win 2-0 against MorroW? u are thinking to much, chill men and have some faith on the Gracken, his gonna Roll jinro and theres no math need it U never know man
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On November 09 2011 00:33 AgentChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2011 23:54 Betsfrox wrote:On November 08 2011 23:49 SafeAsCheese wrote: NASL question
2. IdrA 4-2 10-5 3. KiWiKaKi 4-2 8-6 4. Jinro 3-3 7-6
If am to understand it
EVEN IF jinro 2-0's idra, idra is 10-7 (3) and Jinro is 9-6 (3)
NASL tiebreak says
1. Number of match wins.
2. Match score difference (walkovers hasn't always resulted in a recorded loss for the missing player). 3. Game score difference. -> ? 4. Head to head score. -> ?
So IdrA would be in regardless?
This is assuming Kiwikaki losses to MorroW (quite likely, morrow is beast in PvZ).
If IdrA losses 1-2, he will be 11-7(4), and even if Kiwi wins 2-0, he will be 10-6 (4). Does this mean IdrA also still gets top 2?
So the ONLY way for idra to NOT be top 2, is to lose 0-2 to Jinro and for Kiwi to Win 2-0 against MorroW? u are thinking to much, chill men and have some faith on the Gracken, his gonna Roll jinro and theres no math need it U never know man For some reason Gorilla Terran always managed to beat the Gracken... but things have changed!
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On November 09 2011 00:47 wBsKillian wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 00:33 AgentChaos wrote:On November 08 2011 23:54 Betsfrox wrote:On November 08 2011 23:49 SafeAsCheese wrote: NASL question
2. IdrA 4-2 10-5 3. KiWiKaKi 4-2 8-6 4. Jinro 3-3 7-6
If am to understand it
EVEN IF jinro 2-0's idra, idra is 10-7 (3) and Jinro is 9-6 (3)
NASL tiebreak says
1. Number of match wins.
2. Match score difference (walkovers hasn't always resulted in a recorded loss for the missing player). 3. Game score difference. -> ? 4. Head to head score. -> ?
So IdrA would be in regardless?
This is assuming Kiwikaki losses to MorroW (quite likely, morrow is beast in PvZ).
If IdrA losses 1-2, he will be 11-7(4), and even if Kiwi wins 2-0, he will be 10-6 (4). Does this mean IdrA also still gets top 2?
So the ONLY way for idra to NOT be top 2, is to lose 0-2 to Jinro and for Kiwi to Win 2-0 against MorroW? u are thinking to much, chill men and have some faith on the Gracken, his gonna Roll jinro and theres no math need it U never know man For some reason Gorilla Terran always managed to beat the Gracken... but things have changed!  Jinro won't be able to cheese him out of this one though. I can feel it!
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IdrA has been playing so well lately whereas Jinro is still having a hard time especially in ZvT. IdrA could counter and win every gAme 
I expect an ezpz win.
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Have they played recently at a MLG or sth? The last time I saw a game between them was this showmatch where Jungle Basin was in the mappool xD
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On November 09 2011 01:11 wBsKillian wrote: Have they played recently at a MLG or sth? The last time I saw a game between them was this showmatch where Jungle Basin was in the mappool xD Jinro cheesed him twice in the ESWC group Stage, after Idra demolished him in a macro game. Terran makes me mad >:O
Edit: Apparently, Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so that naturally means I meant IEM China x) Cus that was where he just barely got out of the group stage, right? :3 Maybe I am just derping like hell, but wasn't it Jinro that did the proxy rax on Shakuras? Just below Idra's natural
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Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this.
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So he recently lost to him. (through cheese ofc.) i hope Idra doesn't have some kind of mental block against Jinro like Dimaga seems to have against HasuObs.
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On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote: Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit.
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Man I did a huge fist pump when + Show Spoiler +Idra defended vs Select in game2 of ESWC That was so beautiful to watch.
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On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote: Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him?
Right.
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they played against each other at iem china.
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On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote: Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right. iirc the 6 pool was a calculated risk, since idrA does not have a reputation of cheesing ;P
but im pretty sure that most of the games jinro played and won against idrA were macro games :/
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On November 09 2011 02:18 damod wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote: Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right. iirc the 6 pool was a calculated risk, since idrA does not have a reputation of cheesing ;P but im pretty sure that most of the games jinro played and won against idrA were macro games :/
in the interview after Jinro also said that the only reason he was able to react he also heard the announces and crowd go "OOOOOOOOOO" so he figured something was up, thus started the improvement on sound proofing the players
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On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote: Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. jinro loves his bunker rushes from a few tournament games that i watched. (2 in a row) several times when I was watching slayers_golden stream, he went for mass hellions as well
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Jinro also accidently cancelled the marine int that 6 pool game, which ment when the marine finally came out the lings werent at the rax and the marine BARELY managed to get into the finished bunker in the mineralline. That was some REALLY bad luck for Idra in this game.
I have to admit Jinro took some macrogames off of Idra, but most wins were on Jungle Basin, Xelnaga Caverns and some 2 rax cheese stuff =(
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On November 08 2011 23:49 SafeAsCheese wrote: NASL question
2. IdrA 4-2 10-5 3. KiWiKaKi 4-2 8-6 4. Jinro 3-3 7-6
If am to understand it
EVEN IF jinro 2-0's idra, idra is 10-7 (3) and Jinro is 9-6 (3)
NASL tiebreak says
1. Number of match wins.
2. Match score difference (walkovers hasn't always resulted in a recorded loss for the missing player). 3. Game score difference. -> ? 4. Head to head score. -> ?
So IdrA would be in regardless?
This is assuming Kiwikaki losses to MorroW (quite likely, morrow is beast in PvZ).
If IdrA losses 1-2, he will be 11-7(4), and even if Kiwi wins 2-0, he will be 10-6 (4). Does this mean IdrA also still gets top 2?
So the ONLY way for idra to NOT be top 2, is to lose 0-2 to Jinro and for Kiwi to Win 2-0 against MorroW?
I don't think this is right. If Idra loses to Jinro and Kiwi wins then Idra is 4-3 in matches and Kiwi is 5-2 so Kiwi gets 2nd place.
The correct analysis is this. If Idra beast Jinro then he's guartanteed top two. If Jinro beats Idra then Idra can still get top two if Kiwi loses as well. If Jinro wins and Kiwi wins then Idra does not make top two and has to fight his way in through the qualifier tournament.
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uuhhmm guys, Kiwi lost against MorroW 2-0
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On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote: Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right. Stop being an idiot and go watch the vs jinro games in IEM china.I have been noticing for the last few pages you have been very critical of idra. You used to be the owner of this fanclub and a big idra fanboy.What the fuck happened to you and What the fuck are even doing in this fanclub if you are not going to support? Stop posting negative shit like "He is not code s calibur" "I dont think he will win vs x" "I dont think he is good" that shit just depresses the hell out of me. Sure Idra gave a hard time for his fans dropping games he should have won and make an asshat of himself! but he has changed now.His playstyle is very inspiring.
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On November 09 2011 02:05 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 01:39 Crassulacean wrote:On November 09 2011 01:25 xtfftc wrote: Jinro wasn't at ESWC, so you're probably talking about another tournament.
How did he cheese him though? Jinro is one of the players who hate cheese and all-ins as much as Idra does, so I'm a bit surprised to hear this. You might have to learn a bit more about jinro. Every game he won against idra,that i saw, were cheesy as shit. Like that time in the GSL when Idra 6pool/drone all-ined him? Right.
thats not really a fair comment. it was on the map (sorry, dont remember the exact name) where zerg had to take a third pushing toward the terran in the center of the map where the siege tanks could sit at the terran's third and shell the zerg. Overall, a completely unbalanced map that isnt even used anymore.
Idra told artosis before the series even started that if they made it to that map, he would 6 pool because once siege tanks are out, its just to easy to deny a zerg third and contain him to 2 base.
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