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-Some1.
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal168 Posts
October 16 2011 03:03 GMT
#25681
BAHAHAHHAHAHAH

User was warned for this post
I don't hate those who think different. I Hate those who think wrong.
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
October 16 2011 03:07 GMT
#25682
For those who are confused by the tournament structure here is a helpful diagram that makes it pretty comprehensible:

http://i.imgur.com/HQeEJ.png

The bottom line is that if Idra had won his group he would need to win three more (consecutive) sets to win the tournament. Since he came second in his group, he will need to win six more sets to win the tournament.

Here is a link to the brackets so you can see who he might be playing against.

http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-orlando-starcraft2-champ.html#
-Some1.
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal168 Posts
October 16 2011 03:07 GMT
#25683
On October 16 2011 11:59 Hnnngg wrote:
You know what I want to see?

Medivac healing to be affected by Terran Air Weapons.

I mean, make Terran get gas for something other than Medivacs, Thors, and Siege Tanks. A zerg is going to spend more gas on Mutalisks than Terran will ever spend.

It's frustrating to see Terran so gas light and still being ahead, especially with MULEs.

You get some gas for upgrades and a small amount of gas units, and then get some of the most cost-efficient units in the game, and you can cut SCV's while still being ahead on mineral income.

Whereas Protoss and Zerg (oh yeah, this isn't Zerg biased), you have to spend so much gas on all your units and still be expected to be on similar upgrades (Protoss is actually balanced around having Shield and Armor upgrades together) and have a huge amount of supply in Drones/Probes just so you can keep up with a Terran's income.

I don't like that, I don't know how it got approved on paper, let alone getting past "in-house balance testing".

+ Show Spoiler +
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-serving_bias



That's just the way it is...mkp did not win because of imbalance or anything, he won because at a crucial point, Idra made a mistake.
I don't hate those who think different. I Hate those who think wrong.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 16 2011 03:13 GMT
#25684
On October 16 2011 12:07 -Some1. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:59 Hnnngg wrote:
You know what I want to see?

Medivac healing to be affected by Terran Air Weapons.

I mean, make Terran get gas for something other than Medivacs, Thors, and Siege Tanks. A zerg is going to spend more gas on Mutalisks than Terran will ever spend.

It's frustrating to see Terran so gas light and still being ahead, especially with MULEs.

You get some gas for upgrades and a small amount of gas units, and then get some of the most cost-efficient units in the game, and you can cut SCV's while still being ahead on mineral income.

Whereas Protoss and Zerg (oh yeah, this isn't Zerg biased), you have to spend so much gas on all your units and still be expected to be on similar upgrades (Protoss is actually balanced around having Shield and Armor upgrades together) and have a huge amount of supply in Drones/Probes just so you can keep up with a Terran's income.

I don't like that, I don't know how it got approved on paper, let alone getting past "in-house balance testing".

+ Show Spoiler +
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-serving_bias



That's just the way it is...mkp did not win because of imbalance or anything, he won because at a crucial point, Idra made a mistake.


But that's the thing... MKP almost lost.

I can't imagine someone losing, with all the math and numbers behind them. Idra was behind before the games even started, and almost won. It almost happened. The only reason it didn't was because, like you said, he made that mistake towards the end.

What if MKP didn't have the numbers though... What if Terran needed to make the same amount of workers as Zerg or Protoss and what if Terran needed to spend more than 5000 gas in one game?

I can't see that going in MKP's favor as well as it did for Idra.


User was temp banned for this post.
Makura
Profile Joined December 2010
United States317 Posts
October 16 2011 03:13 GMT
#25685
On October 16 2011 12:07 -Some1. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:59 Hnnngg wrote:
You know what I want to see?

Medivac healing to be affected by Terran Air Weapons.

I mean, make Terran get gas for something other than Medivacs, Thors, and Siege Tanks. A zerg is going to spend more gas on Mutalisks than Terran will ever spend.

It's frustrating to see Terran so gas light and still being ahead, especially with MULEs.

You get some gas for upgrades and a small amount of gas units, and then get some of the most cost-efficient units in the game, and you can cut SCV's while still being ahead on mineral income.

Whereas Protoss and Zerg (oh yeah, this isn't Zerg biased), you have to spend so much gas on all your units and still be expected to be on similar upgrades (Protoss is actually balanced around having Shield and Armor upgrades together) and have a huge amount of supply in Drones/Probes just so you can keep up with a Terran's income.

I don't like that, I don't know how it got approved on paper, let alone getting past "in-house balance testing".

+ Show Spoiler +
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-serving_bias



That's just the way it is...mkp did not win because of imbalance or anything, he won because at a crucial point, Idra made a mistake.


True, i also think MKP was never in THAT bad of a position as it was made to be. Its always more exciting to play it out as a massive comeback then a slight advantage to idra in the midgame. :/
still will be rooting for both Idra and MKP to meet again in the finals hopefully
SHOW THEM WHAT THE CATFISH COMBO IS ALL ABOUT!
Danika
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico112 Posts
October 16 2011 03:16 GMT
#25686
actually idra couldve won game 1, but made some 2 or 3 crucial mistakes which cost him the game, and overall i think idra has right now the potential to 2-0 mkp, not to mention we still have to see him playing tomorrow
If life turns her back on you, grab her ass.
-Some1.
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal168 Posts
October 16 2011 03:21 GMT
#25687
On October 16 2011 12:13 Makura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 12:07 -Some1. wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:59 Hnnngg wrote:
You know what I want to see?

Medivac healing to be affected by Terran Air Weapons.

I mean, make Terran get gas for something other than Medivacs, Thors, and Siege Tanks. A zerg is going to spend more gas on Mutalisks than Terran will ever spend.

It's frustrating to see Terran so gas light and still being ahead, especially with MULEs.

You get some gas for upgrades and a small amount of gas units, and then get some of the most cost-efficient units in the game, and you can cut SCV's while still being ahead on mineral income.

Whereas Protoss and Zerg (oh yeah, this isn't Zerg biased), you have to spend so much gas on all your units and still be expected to be on similar upgrades (Protoss is actually balanced around having Shield and Armor upgrades together) and have a huge amount of supply in Drones/Probes just so you can keep up with a Terran's income.

I don't like that, I don't know how it got approved on paper, let alone getting past "in-house balance testing".

+ Show Spoiler +
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-serving_bias



That's just the way it is...mkp did not win because of imbalance or anything, he won because at a crucial point, Idra made a mistake.


True, i also think MKP was never in THAT bad of a position as it was made to be. Its always more exciting to play it out as a massive comeback then a slight advantage to idra in the midgame. :/
still will be rooting for both Idra and MKP to meet again in the finals hopefully





Yeah, day9 and husky made it look like Idra was in a huge advantage wich was not true. mkp was just pumping out marines from +/- 10 rax. wich he could have keep doing the whole game with just waves of 4 mules at a time...no scv's needed...lol
But he relied on those marines because of upgrades...and for zerg to fall down on upgrades is a huge handicap...either you have a really good economy to nulify the upgrades from your opponents or you catch up on upgrades...idra did none of those....he went 4 base against 3 base and he had at least a 4-5 minutes window to expand safely to outside the natural at 12o'clock. he was floating in excessive minerals...plus he never made the spine wall..nowadays that's essential in every zerg game....buy time for reinforcments and tech up...period.
I don't hate those who think different. I Hate those who think wrong.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 16 2011 03:32 GMT
#25688
IdrA kind of choked for game 1.. very sloppy engagements over and over which ultimately hurt both his economy and army value later on. Otherwise I think IdrA would have won the series.. oh well he likely just has to get through Sase tomorrow and hes back in the running.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
-Some1.
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal168 Posts
October 16 2011 04:02 GMT
#25689
Just imagine Idra if Idra gets first place at Orlando.....how amazig would that be?!

I can imagine the casters: "The man who lost to MarineKing, faces a epic path and is now about to win 3-2 and take home the first place of MLG Orlando!!!!"

Other Caster: "That's righ, and there it is the GG from _______(opponent) AND IDRA TAKES HOME THE FIRST SPOT IN MLG ORLANDO AND A CODE S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LADIES AND GENTLEMENT THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!"
I don't hate those who think different. I Hate those who think wrong.
-Some1.
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal168 Posts
October 16 2011 04:04 GMT
#25690
On October 16 2011 13:02 -Some1. wrote:
Just imagine Idra if Idra gets first place at Orlando.....how amazig would that be?!

I can imagine the casters: "The man who lost to MarineKing, faces a epic path and is now about to win 3-2 and take home the first place of MLG Orlando!!!!"

Other Caster: "That's righ, and there it is the GG from _______(opponent) AND IDRA TAKES HOME THE FIRST SPOT IN MLG ORLANDO AND A CODE S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LADIES AND GENTLEMENT THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!"




fapfapfapfap


yeah i do fap to my own thoughts....can't write and fap at the same time.
I don't hate those who think different. I Hate those who think wrong.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 04:06:39
October 16 2011 04:06 GMT
#25691
On October 16 2011 13:02 -Some1. wrote:
Just imagine Idra if Idra gets first place at Orlando.....how amazig would that be?!

I can imagine the casters: "The man who lost to MarineKing, faces a epic path and is now about to win 3-2 and take home the first place of MLG Orlando!!!!"

Other Caster: "That's righ, and there it is the GG from _______(opponent) AND IDRA TAKES HOME THE FIRST SPOT IN MLG ORLANDO AND A CODE S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LADIES AND GENTLEMENT THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!"


This is going to be like IEM Guangzhou all over again. I'm going to cry and laugh and have heart palpitations.

Or it's going to be like IPL3. And he's going to lose and have a respectable finish.
-Some1.
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal168 Posts
October 16 2011 04:06 GMT
#25692
On October 16 2011 13:06 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 13:02 -Some1. wrote:
Just imagine Idra if Idra gets first place at Orlando.....how amazig would that be?!

I can imagine the casters: "The man who lost to MarineKing, faces a epic path and is now about to win 3-2 and take home the first place of MLG Orlando!!!!"

Other Caster: "That's righ, and there it is the GG from _______(opponent) AND IDRA TAKES HOME THE FIRST SPOT IN MLG ORLANDO AND A CODE S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LADIES AND GENTLEMENT THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!"


This is going to be like IEM Guangzhou all over again. I'm going to cry and laugh and have heart palpitations.

Except for the poop finals.

Or it's going to be like IPL3. And he's going to lose and have a respectable finish.






Erase the last sentence please...no negative thoughts while i'm fapping ffs
I don't hate those who think different. I Hate those who think wrong.
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
October 16 2011 04:07 GMT
#25693
Game 1, nothing is to be said. IdrA simply had bad decision making and careless mistakes which cost him it.

Game 2, MK played sloppy, overflowing in gas count and simply lost.

Game 3, IdrA was doing well but during the last battle, he got too stubborn with his mutas and lost to 3-3 marines.
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 16 2011 04:09 GMT
#25694
idra has good chance to place top 4
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
-Some1.
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal168 Posts
October 16 2011 04:11 GMT
#25695
On October 16 2011 13:09 Mattchew wrote:
idra has good chance to place top 4




you misspelled top 1*
I don't hate those who think different. I Hate those who think wrong.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12457 Posts
October 16 2011 04:31 GMT
#25696
all the best to you idra! you have come so far already, give it your best!
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
eccokk
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany38 Posts
October 16 2011 05:01 GMT
#25697
man the sad part is mkp floating like 2500 minerals a some point becouse of no reactors / to few barracks and still 3/3 marines with that many medivacs owned so hard^^
i think in some way the lower marine count
( instead of like the 10 mkp had he could had like 40 or even more marines with minerals below 500 )
kind of sucked idra into the bad engament. if there would be like 50 marines he goes back plays defensive until he has a new round of ling / baneling and crushes him becouse of no tanks i think
Xeronate
Profile Joined October 2011
United States4 Posts
October 16 2011 05:02 GMT
#25698
GO Idra! You can do it!

Everyone is right about how horribly he played game 1, but every other game made up for it! You could have had game 3, but keep fighting and you'll get first!
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
October 16 2011 05:45 GMT
#25699
Idra doing so good at this tournament, hope he can finish high enough to nab a Code S spot, or even a Code A spot (I think he's nearly guaranteed that) since he's going to head back to Korea soon

Release the Gracken!
-Some1.
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal168 Posts
October 16 2011 05:47 GMT
#25700
On October 16 2011 12:03 -Some1. wrote:
BAHAHAHHAHAHAH

User was warned for this post




hmm...why did i received a warning for writing this? O.o

I was laughing at Whole's picture of the 2nd returning of God when i asked how will Idra be after going to Korea....
Any guess?
I don't hate those who think different. I Hate those who think wrong.
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