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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:03:18
February 08 2010 05:01 GMT
#5421
On February 08 2010 13:55 MorningMusume11 wrote:
lol, I love how they didn't mention vocal ability for Girl Groups, cuz they wouldn't have #1 there. What, they needed to have SNSD at #1 for everything? I swear those reporters have to be heavily biased because not showing SNSD first at something will enrage a lot of people.

I mean come on now, you KNOW that EunJung, HyoMin, and SoYeon > TaeYeon, Jessica, Tiffany, Sunny, and SeoHyun (Sunny's fricking horrible for dance songs). If it was the old T-ara they blow everyone out of the water vocally.

SNSD #1 for dancing I have a big problem with too. Aren't f(x) supposed to have better dancers? I'm sure Chu and Lachata has some pretty complex choreo vs. SNSD's more recent stuff. I bet some of you guys are gonna use HyoYeon as an excuse for SNSD (oh the irony, most of you guys don't even like her) but overall, f(x)'s ability has to surpass SNSD.


As long term kpop fans, don't we all know useless polls and interviews come out of korea press almost every fucking day?
SNSD is currently number 1(FANBASE WISE) in korea so i see no surprise a news agency will rank them as one.
Everything revolves around money, ranking snsd as 1 = more hits = more money, not hard to comprehend here on TL right?

There is a reason why Old T-ara didn't pull through did they? Wasn't it about different members' opinion on how the group would go on? If old t-ara were to be still around, they'd probably be a ballad group if anything. and of course ballads vocals will own any kpop idol

and comparing them to 2ne1? i mean come on loll 2ne1! come on..
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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:07:30
February 08 2010 05:06 GMT
#5422
On February 08 2010 13:55 MorningMusume11 wrote:
lol, I love how they didn't mention vocal ability for Girl Groups, cuz they wouldn't have #1 there. What, they needed to have SNSD at #1 for everything? I swear those reporters have to be heavily biased because not showing SNSD first at something will enrage a lot of people.

I mean come on now, you KNOW that EunJung, HyoMin, and SoYeon > TaeYeon, Jessica, Tiffany, Sunny, and SeoHyun (Sunny's fricking horrible for dance songs). If it was the old T-ara they blow everyone out of the water vocally.

SNSD #1 for dancing I have a big problem with too. Aren't f(x) supposed to have better dancers? I'm sure Chu and Lachata has some pretty complex choreo vs. SNSD's more recent stuff. I bet some of you guys are gonna use HyoYeon as an excuse for SNSD (oh the irony, most of you guys don't even like her) but overall, f(x)'s ability has to surpass SNSD.

like u said. popularity plays a big part here.. and no i dont believe that EunJung HyoMin SoYeon > Taeyeon Sica Fany Sunny SeoHyun. Are u kidding me? Eunjung Hyomin RAPS and dont sing shit. Vocal-wise the trio you mentioned gets pwned so badly -_-. Sure, SoYeon's not bad but if u wanna compare the trio versus the Five....NAH. not a chance.


and no im not being blind fanboy here.
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Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
February 08 2010 05:07 GMT
#5423
Uh, Hyomin sings just fine.

but I do think the SNSD five are vocally stronger than T-ara's three. Taeyeon is clearly the strongest of all of them, and versatility does count for something.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:11:27
February 08 2010 05:09 GMT
#5424
Actually Musume is right, Eunjung is just as good if not more even more awesome than taengoo. Do not know why mnet is not letting her sing tho. Jessica is okay skillwise but not enough "thickness" in her vocal, and seohyun will not last through a whole song alone.
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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 08 2010 05:10 GMT
#5425
Eunjung could rap and sing, Soyeon couldn't rap. That's why Eunjung has to rap.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Stupidity
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States209 Posts
February 08 2010 05:11 GMT
#5426
On February 08 2010 14:06 Katsuge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 13:55 MorningMusume11 wrote:
lol, I love how they didn't mention vocal ability for Girl Groups, cuz they wouldn't have #1 there. What, they needed to have SNSD at #1 for everything? I swear those reporters have to be heavily biased because not showing SNSD first at something will enrage a lot of people.

I mean come on now, you KNOW that EunJung, HyoMin, and SoYeon > TaeYeon, Jessica, Tiffany, Sunny, and SeoHyun (Sunny's fricking horrible for dance songs). If it was the old T-ara they blow everyone out of the water vocally.

SNSD #1 for dancing I have a big problem with too. Aren't f(x) supposed to have better dancers? I'm sure Chu and Lachata has some pretty complex choreo vs. SNSD's more recent stuff. I bet some of you guys are gonna use HyoYeon as an excuse for SNSD (oh the irony, most of you guys don't even like her) but overall, f(x)'s ability has to surpass SNSD.

like u said. popularity plays a big part here.. and no i dont believe that EunJung HyoMin SoYeon > Taeyeon Sica Fany Sunny SeoHyun. Are u kidding me? Eunjung Hyomin RAPS and dont sing shit. Vocal-wise the trio you mentioned gets pwned so badly -_-. Sure, SoYeon's not bad but if u wanna compare the trio versus the Five....NAH. not a chance.


and no im not being blind fanboy here.

Are you fucking shitting me? Please tell me you are.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
February 08 2010 05:11 GMT
#5427
really? then its Mnet's problem for not showcasing their vocal abilities cause I cant see shit about it atm.

Sing more, and it might change my opinion.

+ Show Spoiler +
maybe it will rofl
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hyomin godtier
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada367 Posts
February 08 2010 05:11 GMT
#5428
Every other group on that list has been able to make a song that I still can listen to today. SNSD songs just fucking suck they make them so simple so that even their shitty half can sing along. They can only devote a line or two requiring vocals because otherwise Taeyeon would be singing the whole song. Also every song is composed like a lullabi like their marketing to infants. Can you really go to a club and have Gee come on after a song like Muzik the place would riot.
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Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
February 08 2010 05:12 GMT
#5429
or you could just.....not have rapping.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
February 08 2010 05:12 GMT
#5430
On February 08 2010 14:11 Stupidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 14:06 Katsuge wrote:
On February 08 2010 13:55 MorningMusume11 wrote:
lol, I love how they didn't mention vocal ability for Girl Groups, cuz they wouldn't have #1 there. What, they needed to have SNSD at #1 for everything? I swear those reporters have to be heavily biased because not showing SNSD first at something will enrage a lot of people.

I mean come on now, you KNOW that EunJung, HyoMin, and SoYeon > TaeYeon, Jessica, Tiffany, Sunny, and SeoHyun (Sunny's fricking horrible for dance songs). If it was the old T-ara they blow everyone out of the water vocally.

SNSD #1 for dancing I have a big problem with too. Aren't f(x) supposed to have better dancers? I'm sure Chu and Lachata has some pretty complex choreo vs. SNSD's more recent stuff. I bet some of you guys are gonna use HyoYeon as an excuse for SNSD (oh the irony, most of you guys don't even like her) but overall, f(x)'s ability has to surpass SNSD.

like u said. popularity plays a big part here.. and no i dont believe that EunJung HyoMin SoYeon > Taeyeon Sica Fany Sunny SeoHyun. Are u kidding me? Eunjung Hyomin RAPS and dont sing shit. Vocal-wise the trio you mentioned gets pwned so badly -_-. Sure, SoYeon's not bad but if u wanna compare the trio versus the Five....NAH. not a chance.


and no im not being blind fanboy here.

Are you fucking shitting me? Please tell me you are.


at least explain ur stand rather than giving one-liners.
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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:15:16
February 08 2010 05:13 GMT
#5431
On February 08 2010 14:11 ArsenalGunners wrote:
Every other group on that list has been able to make a song that I still can listen to today. SNSD songs just fucking suck they make them so simple so that even their shitty half can sing along. They can only devote a line or two requiring vocals because otherwise Taeyeon would be singing the whole song. Also every song is composed like a lullabi like their marketing to infants. Can you really go to a club and have Gee come on after a song like Muzik the place would riot.


dude thats ur own taste of music. dont bring it in here and troll just cos u hate all their songs
btw this is how each group is marketed by THEIR COMPANIES.
dont go fucking hate on the genre and then relate it with the group
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Stupidity
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States209 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:15:06
February 08 2010 05:14 GMT
#5432
On February 08 2010 14:11 ArsenalGunners wrote:
Every other group on that list has been able to make a song that I still can listen to today. SNSD songs just fucking suck they make them so simple so that even their shitty half can sing along. They can only devote a line or two requiring vocals because otherwise Taeyeon would be singing the whole song. Also every song is composed like a lullabi like their marketing to infants. Can you really go to a club and have Gee come on after a song like Muzik the place would riot.

SNSD has decent songs. Their old songs actually showed their vocal abilities. However, their newer stuff is pretty meh to be honest.

And as for Katsuge, lemme dig up something for you.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
February 08 2010 05:15 GMT
#5433
waiting.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
February 08 2010 05:16 GMT
#5434
On February 08 2010 14:11 ArsenalGunners wrote:
Every other group on that list has been able to make a song that I still can listen to today. SNSD songs just fucking suck they make them so simple so that even their shitty half can sing along. They can only devote a line or two requiring vocals because otherwise Taeyeon would be singing the whole song. Also every song is composed like a lullabi like their marketing to infants. Can you really go to a club and have Gee come on after a song like Muzik the place would riot.



Listen again, pretty sure you'll realize every fking kpop song is the same, rap + chorus+ vocal for that few people in group. 4 min has jiyeon and gayoon, 2ne1 has Park Bom, T-ara has Soyeon,
Kara has gyuri. all the fking songs are the same. You are expressing blind hatred to snsd.

and i'm pretty sure you do not listen to their OST.

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hyomin godtier
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada367 Posts
February 08 2010 05:21 GMT
#5435
Its like you guys are trying to tell me here that Transformers is a good movie its a fucking pop corn movie that appeals to the masses but has no substance. Just like songs that SNSD makes or T-ara's bo peep seriously that song blows to. I threw that in so that you guys see that its not only SNSD im haiting on. It just so happens that thats all the songs SNSD seems to promote. So we can agree SNSD is like a hollywood blockbuster (the special effects being dem legz) but that dosent make it a good fucking movie. That dosent mean they should be winning awards for shit like that after all Transformers would never win an Oscar. BTW wtf did I dig myself into here where the fuck is the backup im getting shit on from all sides here.
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Stupidity
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States209 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:24:05
February 08 2010 05:22 GMT
#5436
Anyways, Katsuge as I promised:

Good Person:


Followed by a Wonder Woman Perf:


And of course my favorite adlib of all time:


Funny how you mention Soyeon, as she's probably only third best vocally in T-ara.

I should also counter with this video, as I think SNSD fans would enjoy it. Taeyeon sure enjoyed it.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
February 08 2010 05:23 GMT
#5437
Ok so you guys talk about their popularity, fine. So in order for a news agency to get good ratings and what not they should side with the most popular group and make them stand out as much as possible in their article. So why wasn't there a vocal section then?
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
February 08 2010 05:29 GMT
#5438
On February 08 2010 14:21 ArsenalGunners wrote:
Its like you guys are trying to tell me here that Transformers is a good movie its a fucking pop corn movie that appeals to the masses but has no substance. Just like songs that SNSD makes or T-ara's bo peep seriously that song blows to. I threw that in so that you guys see that its not only SNSD im haiting on. It just so happens that thats all the songs SNSD seems to promote. So we can agree SNSD is like a hollywood blockbuster (the special effects being dem legz) but that dosent make it a good fucking movie. That dosent mean they should be winning awards for shit like that after all Transformers would never win an Oscar. BTW wtf did I dig myself into here where the fuck is the backup im getting shit on from all sides here.


No, we are not telling you snsd is a good movie, i'm telling you every fucking idol group is almost identical apart from their genre(2ne1) and company. Only problem is Transformers appeal to people form 10-40 while UP appeal to people from 3-25. Get my point?

And awards, if Oscar awarding system is not by judge, pure vote and box office, would transformer not get a award for best movie too?
BEST SPECIAL EFFECTS ANYONE?
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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:34:56
February 08 2010 05:33 GMT
#5439
good that you put Good Person MV in there. If you would be so kind as to tell me who sings what part then i can hear for myself how they fare in it.

uh..wonderwoman? lol.
it is probably the worst perf for T-ara cause the 2 look so awkwardly out of place in such a vocally-dominant project group. Would be better if EunJung actually sang more. Hyomin? "Going to the JOO?" -.-

TTL? wow..i have to admit...i didnt notice the adlibs at all till you mentioned it. sadly its too overshadowed by rap that i didnt notice it at all. but then again, it would better if they can actually do the singing...

-otherwise i give them credit for their voices. nice range.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-08 05:36:39
February 08 2010 05:35 GMT
#5440
On February 08 2010 14:23 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Ok so you guys talk about their popularity, fine. So in order for a news agency to get good ratings and what not they should side with the most popular group and make them stand out as much as possible in their article. So why wasn't there a vocal section then?



maybe they actually came to the consensus vocal is foregone in the idol industry?

Keep in mind, they did put beg up there. Pre-abracadbra Beg would blow any of those groups out of the water. but no, its all about catchy-ness, autotune and sexy dance move right now
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