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Oozo
Profile Joined December 2009
Finland432 Posts
January 19 2011 09:39 GMT
#20881
On January 19 2011 18:32 GTR wrote:
^ on the CEO thing, apparently it's just some no-name company, so nothing too much to worry about.


Yeah, Good thing that its not big company.

Funny to see comments like "We want Kara back, I miss you" in allkpop site, that makes me dumbfounded.

Also, there was that "Regarding the income distribution claims made by Nicole’s mother and their lawyers, the information they revealed was distorted and is a complete misunderstanding." Is Nicole(or her mother) behind this? Or its just another move from DSP to make someone other the reason for this controversy? I got feeling that there is more than 2 sides in this battle...


SKT for OSL!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 19 2011 09:40 GMT
#20882
^no, what they're doing is canceling their five year contracts.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 19 2011 09:40 GMT
#20883
On January 19 2011 18:38 FrozenFlare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 18:33 UrASofty wrote:
everything will die down and the other three members will go crawling back to dsp imo. jiyoung is next.


I don't think 'crawling' back is the correct term, if anything DSP is slowly meeting the demands and requirements of the remaining members one by one to bring them back.

"Regarding news of Hara staying with DSP Media, representatives continued, “Hara has decided not to comply with the terminations.” The possibility of further changes in the remaining three contracts is now at center stage."

I'm gonna cry now.


On January 19 2011 18:39 TzaTzers wrote:
does anyone know if their contracts expired? cuz isnt it illegal to leave while youre on contract? i havent been reading all the links that have been posted but the ones that i did read didnt really mention anything about their contract

Their contract expire in 2014.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 19 2011 09:41 GMT
#20884
On January 19 2011 18:40 DystopiaX wrote:
^no, what they're doing is canceling their five year contracts.

It's seven year. SS501's contract was 5 years, but DSP wasn't as stupid the 2nd time and signed kara to a 7 year.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51691 Posts
January 19 2011 09:45 GMT
#20885
people can get out of contracts any time they want as long as they have someone to represent them. e.g dbsk.

also technically sunghee should still be contracted, yes? unless it was a mutual termination.
Commentator
FrozenFlare
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia103 Posts
January 19 2011 09:46 GMT
#20886
On January 19 2011 18:39 TzaTzers wrote:
does anyone know if their contracts expired? cuz isnt it illegal to leave while youre on contract? i havent been reading all the links that have been posted but the ones that i did read didnt really mention anything about their contract


No their contracts haven't ended.

Depends, if the company breaches the contract and not the artist, then you as the artist is allowed to file a law suit and then leave (providing you win the law suit). Otherwise if you leave the contract and don't have sufficient reasons then you're going to have to pay a certain amount of money. Then there are also cases where you can leave and breach the contract, requiring you to pay compensation to the company according to the contract but while filing a law suit under different terms outside of contract and win that, you end up making profit lol

In this case though there's a possibility where both parties have breached some sort of term in the contract allowing the members to file a relatively safe law suit.
Remember you are unique, just like everyone else.
TzaTzers
Profile Joined April 2009
United States589 Posts
January 19 2011 09:55 GMT
#20887
i see, thanks for that info =D
well i hope something gets worked out ha i want to see jiyoung on stage!
"Why did the colossus fall over? because he was imbalanced..."
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 19 2011 09:57 GMT
#20888
So there are 2 options left aren't there?

option 1: Everyone goes back to DSP and resume with perhaps a marginally better contract
option 2: They don't crawl back and Kara is left with a 2v3, meaning that Kara is basically well, eh disbanded.
option 3(?) lol solo act nvm.
WriterXiao8~~
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
January 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#20889
yeaH lets go TVXQ girl version!
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 15:14:06
January 19 2011 14:54 GMT
#20890
http://soundcloud.com/yxyfyxyf/i-know-ft-iu
seungri voice spoils the possible awesomeness of another iu duet

edit. someone uploaded to yt (Y)


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iwantsushi
Profile Joined October 2010
India128 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 16:10:56
January 19 2011 16:09 GMT
#20891
how is hara going to face gyuri....
" i like protoss because they're clean" - " "
Esseim
Profile Joined April 2010
34 Posts
January 19 2011 16:16 GMT
#20892
Who needs TV shows to watch these stars generate drama?
Dying aint much of a living, boy.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 16:24:02
January 19 2011 16:20 GMT
#20893
I like the violins


also update on the kara situation.
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/01/dsp-entertainment-responds-to-tv-report-article


Earlier today we reported details regarding Kara’s contract, uncovered by TV report in midst of this very significant controversy. Edaily, a Korean online newspaper, contacted DSP Entertainment today regarding the report; and here is what the group’s management company had to say about the allegations against them.

A representative from DSP explained to Edaily through a phone interview today that they paid each members of Kara around 300 million Won per person ($300,000) last year, more than half of which has already been paid during the first half of the year. When questioned why the members were only paid $3,000 this past December, the representative explained that it was based from a promotion with a franchise of a convenience store during August. DSP received 3 million Yen ($40,000) from the deal, and the Kara members each received $3,000 from this according to the representative. So some maybe curious on why they were only paid a share of this promotion and not their album and single sales? The representative explained this as well.

He went on to claim that Kara was offered a share of profit that was much higher than the going rate in the Japanese music industry. Japanese artists usually receive only 1% of the total album and single sales, and because DSP believed that this amount was unfair for Kara, they offered to pay the members around 20-30% of DSP’s share in the sales. In Japan, the distributor takes 86% of the album/single sales, leaving the management company with the remaining 16%. In DSP’s case, they had to split it evenly with Universal Japan, which is Kara’s management company in Japan. Hence, DSP was to receive 8% of the total album/single sales, and they would have had to pay only 1/8 of it to Kara members. However, the representative stated that they felt that the amount was unfair for Kara, so they had offered the parents of the members 20-30% of DSP’s share, which would be 1.6-2.4% of the total sales, rather than 1%.

Lastly, he stated that the Kara members were supposed to receive the third quarter profits in December, but this couldn’t be done so as the parents didn’t give an answer to their offer.

A lot of information from this interview are contradicting of other reports, mostly the ones that were written in favor of Kara. This interview does give one piece of information that is of value; the fact that dispute most likely started over profit distribution of album and single sales in Japan, and the members’ parents were heavily involved in this. Reminds us of another group of the
past, doesn’t it?
WriterXiao8~~
sammler
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom381 Posts
January 19 2011 16:28 GMT
#20894
I was just getting into Kara Hopefully everything will be alright.

Unrelated, just found these, sure they're old news to most. I will never play another race apart from P.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyw9rgw-J8I
"I wish I was good enough to be called bad by IdrA." - Moa
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 19:02:11
January 19 2011 19:01 GMT
#20895
The loss of faith in our company is what hurts us the most!

The members of Kara and DSP Media began to lose trust in one another ever since the change in DSP’s top management which occurred in March 2010. This is due to the fact that the members of the new management, who lacked professional knowledge, failed to provide proper management for Kara. The current executive director of DSP Media is the wife of Mr. Lee Ho Yeon, the ex-director who is currently ill. She has never worked in the entertainment management industry before; and so far, she has only been concerned about DSP’s profits and the health of DSP. She failed to build a trusting relationship with the members of Kara as she disregarded situations and the growth potential of the members.

The contract turned into a registration form!

The members of Kara signed the contract for their work in Japan under the knowledge that it was a simple registration form. The members and the parents were told that the contract, which was in Japanese, was a form for simply registering as a music artist in Japan. This made them sign the contract without knowing that they were signing a contract, and when they asked for a copy of the contract after the fact, a DSP employee declined their request as the contract was not to be released outside of the company.

The company had no rights to make deals in Japan!

The executive director of DSP Japan, the company in charge of Kara’s work in Japan, is the same person as the original DSP executive director (wife of Lee Ho Yeon). The company removed part of the earnings as a share of DSP Japan, and then paid the members with a percentage of the remaining portion. This means that the same manager, who owns both companies, cut Kara’s share of the earnings through a transaction out of formality, which resulted in Kara getting taxed twice by the company. According to their contract with DSP, Kara members had their rights violated by this action.

Karaya is owned by the executive director and his family!

Karaya is an online clothing store for which three members of Kara (Gyuri, Hara and Jiyoung) work as models. It is owned by the current executive director of DSP Media, and other managerial positions are held by the director’s family members, which clearly shows that this is another scheme to profit from the Kara members. Karaya also made the members wear clothing with the inappropriate line “BEST FUCKIN FIVE” on it then posted the photos on its website, which not only disregarded the reputation of the members, especially Jiyoung who is a minor, but also resulted in heavy complaints from Kara’s fans. This action by DSP was a clear display of how the DSP disregards the reputation or profit of the artists and is only concerned about the profits of itself.

http://www.allkpop.com/2011/01/2nd-official-statement-from-landmark-and-kara


rofl I always thought that shirt was a photoshop, not a real photo.
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NotAnonymous
Profile Joined February 2010
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 20:29:28
January 19 2011 19:27 GMT
#20896
[QUOTE]On January 20 2011 01:20 Kipsate wrote:
I like the violins
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XXzgvmIPHA
also update on the kara situation.
http://www.allkpop.com/2011/01/dsp-entertainment-responds-to-tv-report-article


Me too Like the orchestration sound in the introduction and the powerful beat of electronic source throughout the whole song. Here is the HD version
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNAh_TiYEHw&feature=player_embedded]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNAh_TiYEHw&feature=player_embedded[/url]
U're the reason I feel so alive~
TzaTzers
Profile Joined April 2009
United States589 Posts
January 19 2011 19:31 GMT
#20897
On January 20 2011 01:28 sammler wrote:
I was just getting into Kara Hopefully everything will be alright.

Unrelated, just found these, sure they're old news to most. I will never play another race apart from P.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyw9rgw-J8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-IeDpcUTew


lol i had seen the first video before but not the second, taeyeon is funny
"Why did the colossus fall over? because he was imbalanced..."
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 19 2011 20:44 GMT
#20898
God, I love DSP artists. Park Jung Min takes my mind off Kara. The song is so good.

Yes I know Park Jung Min is no longer with DSP.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 20 2011 00:43 GMT
#20899
On January 20 2011 01:28 sammler wrote:
I was just getting into Kara Hopefully everything will be alright.

Unrelated, just found these, sure they're old news to most. I will never play another race apart from P.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyw9rgw-J8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-IeDpcUTew

Apparently Taeyeon wasn't joking about liking Starcraft, as she's facebook friends with Gisado
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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 20 2011 01:56 GMT
#20900
except that im pretty sure she doesnt have a fb account.
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