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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 17:28:57
November 12 2015 17:27 GMT
#107361
idk about CGI in GATE. Lots of people said that looks horrible. For me CGI usually makes me cringe really hard when it's on humans (Saekano: fingers whenever writing on a laptop iirc?) but for GATE I didn't actually mind it all that much.

While watching, it felt to me like they downgraded the actually handdrawn stuff (the style) so that the difference between CGI / handdrawn isn't as big as it usually ends up being. And I was fine with that for the most part lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 12 2015 17:36 GMT
#107362
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 17:40:52
November 12 2015 17:39 GMT
#107363
On November 13 2015 02:27 Toadesstern wrote:
idk about CGI in GATE. Lots of people said that looks horrible. For me CGI usually makes me cringe really hard when it's on humans (Saekano: fingers whenever writing on a laptop iirc?) but for GATE I didn't actually mind it all that much.

While watching, it felt to me like they downgraded the actually handdrawn stuff (the style) so that the difference between CGI / handdrawn isn't as big as it usually ends up being. And I was fine with that for the most part lol


Well, I was mostly talking about the scenes that had people panicking and running all over the place. Like that one scene in ep1 or 2 (?) where the mass entered the park (?) after opening the gate. That scene really kept stuck in my mind... -.-' It was like little manikins floating all over the place with dissynchronisised leg to forward motion. I really would have prefered a still frame over this and I think that says a lot.

In SSY some ski-scenes really hit me. That looked like amateur CGI done on a home PC.

On November 13 2015 02:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Are there any noteworthy OPs or EDs this season?


Not really. OPM's OP is decent and so is Perfect Insider's. I think there are a few more ok'ish ones but nothing that stands out for me.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 17:43:04
November 12 2015 17:40 GMT
#107364
On November 13 2015 02:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Are there any noteworthy OPs or EDs this season?





(god am I happy they took this instead of the Sodachi OP for the final ED-version of the arc)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 12 2015 17:42 GMT
#107365
On November 13 2015 02:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Are there any noteworthy OPs or EDs this season?


uta2 OP / ED are really good.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 12 2015 17:45 GMT
#107366
On November 13 2015 02:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Are there any noteworthy OPs or EDs this season?


#1
Saikyo
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 17:47:26
November 12 2015 17:46 GMT
#107367
+ Show Spoiler [LotGH ep106] +
This show. I was genuinly scared that they would kill of either Annerose or Hilda - or actually both of them...

I laughed quite a bit at the short commentary on Kessler's romantic life. "2 years later they were married." One sentence was enough, lol. Seems kind of rushed but the comedic feel made up for it.^^


//
On November 13 2015 02:42 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 02:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Are there any noteworthy OPs or EDs this season?


uta2 OP / ED are really good.


Oh yeah, forgot about uta2 because I dropped it.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 12 2015 17:55 GMT
#107368
On November 13 2015 02:23 oneofthem wrote:
you can't judge popularity of a pairing by interactions with non-fujoshi anime watchers. the amount of derivative artwork and 'literature' on athrunxkira was pretty intense.

it's a distinct fetish point that the plot of seed clearly tried to sell.


western anime watchers almost never pay, so they are not really relevant for the evolution of the industry. whales and fanatics drive it and fujoshi is among the most powerful of those groups.


I wasn't talking about western viewers at all.

Also, fujoshi being the driving force isn't a good thing.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 12 2015 19:17 GMT
#107369
Why not, it's not any worse than any other driving force really.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 19:41:19
November 12 2015 19:40 GMT
#107370
On November 13 2015 04:17 ragz_gt wrote:
Why not, it's not any worse than any other driving force really.


Cause it's just a small niche. We'd have better standards and quality productions if a more general and mainstream population watched anime.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 19:46:10
November 12 2015 19:44 GMT
#107371
You mean if a more general population paid for anime.

Also i don't mind fujoshi, outside of literal shounen ai shows and yaoi a lot of shows with huge fujoshi fandoms aren't really shows that pander to them heavily, fujoshi love shows like Kuroko no Basuke for example.
Infact a ton of seinen and shounen series have huge fujoshi fandoms because of the often huge amount of male characters compared to how many female characters there are.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 19:46:39
November 12 2015 19:44 GMT
#107372
On November 13 2015 04:40 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 04:17 ragz_gt wrote:
Why not, it's not any worse than any other driving force really.


Cause it's just a small niche. We'd have better standards and quality productions if a more general and mainstream population watched anime.


Except popular mainstream shows have standards of a sewage drain in a flood. "Mainstream" doesn't really do anything but dilute the product while making the producers tons of money. For the audience it's no better or worse than it just being well done niche.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 19:51:16
November 12 2015 19:50 GMT
#107373
I thought the point of anime was self-pandering. Stuff written by people who are pandering towards their own fetishes and whatever else so that other people can read stuff that they like and eventually it gets animated because enough people like the pandering.

Wether that's fujoshi who are shipping something, numy trying to get the next best yuri show, Sent wanting to see toasters fight other kitchenware or me wanting to see more Katou-god really doesn't make that much of a difference.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 19:54:32
November 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#107374
On November 13 2015 04:44 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 04:40 IceHism wrote:
On November 13 2015 04:17 ragz_gt wrote:
Why not, it's not any worse than any other driving force really.


Cause it's just a small niche. We'd have better standards and quality productions if a more general and mainstream population watched anime.


Except popular mainstream shows have standards of a sewage drain in a flood. "Mainstream" doesn't really do anything but dilute the product while making the producers tons of money. For the audience it's no better or worse than it just being well done niche.


even if the story isn't that good, at least the effects and visuals would look really good though?

Just imagine if the industry(sans kyoani or ghibli) paid animators a lot more than the peanuts they do now. more people would be motivated to actually do it and even the trashy low profile battle harem adaptions could look pretty damn good compared to what they are right now.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 19:58:34
November 12 2015 19:55 GMT
#107375
On November 13 2015 04:50 Toadesstern wrote:
I thought the point of anime was self-pandering. Stuff written by people who are pandering towards their own fetishes and whatever else so that other people can read stuff that they like and eventually it gets animated because enough people like the pandering.

Wether that's fujoshi who are shipping something, numy trying to get the next best yuri show, Sent wanting to see toasters fight other kitchenware or me wanting to see more Katou-god really doesn't make that much of a difference.


Please Toad, I'm a sophisticated man. I want the best lewd yuri show

On November 13 2015 04:53 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 04:44 Numy wrote:
On November 13 2015 04:40 IceHism wrote:
On November 13 2015 04:17 ragz_gt wrote:
Why not, it's not any worse than any other driving force really.


Cause it's just a small niche. We'd have better standards and quality productions if a more general and mainstream population watched anime.


Except popular mainstream shows have standards of a sewage drain in a flood. "Mainstream" doesn't really do anything but dilute the product while making the producers tons of money. For the audience it's no better or worse than it just being well done niche.


even if the story isn't that good, at least the effects and visuals would look really good though?

Just imagine if the industry(sans kyoani or ghibli) paid animators a lot more than the peanuts they do now. more people would be motivated to actually do it and even the trashy low profile battle harem adaptions could look pretty damn good compared to what they are right now.


That may not be the case. You have to remember that for a business they care more about profit margins than quality. If you can pay your animators peanuts while getting say 1 million profits from it then there's no reason to increase the animator pay to something good if profits only go up to say 1.5 million. Mainstream money does not mean quality will always increase.

Even if you look at say Western media you see the same thing. Good quality shows often land up cancelled even if they make money just because they don't make enough money to warrant running them. The cheap easy shows that make maybe less money are worth more to them. That's why you can get like 20 seasons of Fear factor or whatever trashy show while new Sci-fi stuff gets cancelled in 10 episodes even if they break even.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 12 2015 19:58 GMT
#107376
On November 13 2015 04:50 Toadesstern wrote:
I thought the point of anime was self-pandering. Stuff written by people who are pandering towards their own fetishes and whatever else so that other people can read stuff that they like and eventually it gets animated because enough people like the pandering.

Wether that's fujoshi who are shipping something, numy trying to get the next best yuri show, Sent wanting to see toasters fight other kitchenware or me wanting to see more Katou-god really doesn't make that much of a difference.

It should, considering I probably spend more on toaster related things than you guys do on yuri or shit-related things
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 12 2015 19:59 GMT
#107377
you want lewd yuri but when kuro rubs her naked chest agains Ilya's while frenchkissing her it's suddenly too much
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 20:07:41
November 12 2015 20:02 GMT
#107378
On November 13 2015 04:59 Toadesstern wrote:
you want lewd yuri but when kuro rubs her naked chest agains Ilya's while frenchkissing her it's suddenly too much


You know how you just sitting there watching some beautiful video of 2 girls enjoying a hard mushroom together then as soon as you finished you look at yourself and feel disgusted. That post cleaning guilt. That's Illya show.

I want a lewd yuri show that doesn't make me feel guilty after watching it! Perfection.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 20:11:46
November 12 2015 20:11 GMT
#107379
On November 13 2015 04:50 Toadesstern wrote:
I thought the point of anime was self-pandering. Stuff written by people who are pandering towards their own fetishes and whatever else so that other people can read stuff that they like and eventually it gets animated because enough people like the pandering.

Wether that's fujoshi who are shipping something, numy trying to get the next best yuri show, Sent wanting to see toasters fight other kitchenware or me wanting to see more Katou-god really doesn't make that much of a difference.

I mean monster musume finally became an anime, and it even sold well.
Thank god for pandering to specific niches

Now release some proper figures japan so i can spend money on something that isn't BDs.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 12 2015 20:12 GMT
#107380
On November 13 2015 04:55 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 04:50 Toadesstern wrote:
I thought the point of anime was self-pandering. Stuff written by people who are pandering towards their own fetishes and whatever else so that other people can read stuff that they like and eventually it gets animated because enough people like the pandering.

Wether that's fujoshi who are shipping something, numy trying to get the next best yuri show, Sent wanting to see toasters fight other kitchenware or me wanting to see more Katou-god really doesn't make that much of a difference.


Please Toad, I'm a sophisticated man. I want the best lewd yuri show

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 04:53 IceHism wrote:
On November 13 2015 04:44 Numy wrote:
On November 13 2015 04:40 IceHism wrote:
On November 13 2015 04:17 ragz_gt wrote:
Why not, it's not any worse than any other driving force really.


Cause it's just a small niche. We'd have better standards and quality productions if a more general and mainstream population watched anime.


Except popular mainstream shows have standards of a sewage drain in a flood. "Mainstream" doesn't really do anything but dilute the product while making the producers tons of money. For the audience it's no better or worse than it just being well done niche.


even if the story isn't that good, at least the effects and visuals would look really good though?

Just imagine if the industry(sans kyoani or ghibli) paid animators a lot more than the peanuts they do now. more people would be motivated to actually do it and even the trashy low profile battle harem adaptions could look pretty damn good compared to what they are right now.


That may not be the case. You have to remember that for a business they care more about profit margins than quality. If you can pay your animators peanuts while getting say 1 million profits from it then there's no reason to increase the animator pay to something good if profits only go up to say 1.5 million. Mainstream money does not mean quality will always increase.

Even if you look at say Western media you see the same thing. Good quality shows often land up cancelled even if they make money just because they don't make enough money to warrant running them. The cheap easy shows that make maybe less money are worth more to them. That's why you can get like 20 seasons of Fear factor or whatever trashy show while new Sci-fi stuff gets cancelled in 10 episodes even if they break even.


anime is really really tiny. I'd say that profits would increase far more than from a small 1 million to a still small 1.5 million. While i'm not sure about it, i would think they would add more tighter regulations as well. Otherwise, no one would want to be an animator at that point. Increased demand but no increased incentive? I don't think japanese are that insane to not boycott that.

i didn't see stuff like GoT, walking dead, or breaking bad getting canceled. Dr who has like 10+ seasons as well and i wouldn't say that show is bad either.
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