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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 22:06:20
December 08 2010 22:05 GMT
#10001
Does anyone know where i can find the winter anime lineup? It's fall in the OP, and i saw the spring one somewhere, but dunno where the winter one is.

And post 10,000 is mine. ^^
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 22:31:58
December 08 2010 22:31 GMT
#10002
No. The OP does not count :D
10000th post is mine.

But on a more serious note, is it just me or is anime getting shittier by the year?
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
December 08 2010 22:57 GMT
#10003
On December 09 2010 07:31 Shiragaku wrote:
No. The OP does not count :D
10000th post is mine.

But on a more serious note, is it just me or is anime getting shittier by the year?


I wasn't counting the OP, i was the 10,000th "reply" i shoulda said i guess.

And it depends how picky you are too i guess. I like pretty much any genre, and I don't watch more than a couple eps a day, so good ones never run out. ^^

Maybe they'll all get together and brainstorm up some more ideas, if everything is getting old now.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
December 08 2010 23:26 GMT
#10004
Its because maybe once a year, that an anime soo epic comes out, and they just release a bunch of shitty ones to make the epic one seem more epic.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 09 2010 00:46 GMT
#10005
On December 09 2010 07:05 ThaZenith wrote:
Does anyone know where i can find the winter anime lineup? It's fall in the OP, and i saw the spring one somewhere, but dunno where the winter one is.

And post 10,000 is mine. ^^

winter lineup doesn't impress. + Show Spoiler +
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8393/winter2010j.jpg


I'll try watching that yugioh wannabe.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 09 2010 00:53 GMT
#10006
On December 09 2010 07:57 ThaZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 07:31 Shiragaku wrote:
No. The OP does not count :D
10000th post is mine.

But on a more serious note, is it just me or is anime getting shittier by the year?


I wasn't counting the OP, i was the 10,000th "reply" i shoulda said i guess.

And it depends how picky you are too i guess. I like pretty much any genre, and I don't watch more than a couple eps a day, so good ones never run out. ^^

Maybe they'll all get together and brainstorm up some more ideas, if everything is getting old now.

You were the 10,000th reply, I was the 10,000th post.

Anime sucks now because of Lucky Star.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
December 09 2010 01:01 GMT
#10007
On December 09 2010 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 07:57 ThaZenith wrote:
On December 09 2010 07:31 Shiragaku wrote:
No. The OP does not count :D
10000th post is mine.

But on a more serious note, is it just me or is anime getting shittier by the year?


I wasn't counting the OP, i was the 10,000th "reply" i shoulda said i guess.

And it depends how picky you are too i guess. I like pretty much any genre, and I don't watch more than a couple eps a day, so good ones never run out. ^^

Maybe they'll all get together and brainstorm up some more ideas, if everything is getting old now.

You were the 10,000th reply, I was the 10,000th post.

Anime sucks now because of Lucky Star.


elaborate please
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 01:21:52
December 09 2010 01:21 GMT
#10008
On December 09 2010 10:01 Blobskillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 09:53 Sentenal wrote:
On December 09 2010 07:57 ThaZenith wrote:
On December 09 2010 07:31 Shiragaku wrote:
No. The OP does not count :D
10000th post is mine.

But on a more serious note, is it just me or is anime getting shittier by the year?


I wasn't counting the OP, i was the 10,000th "reply" i shoulda said i guess.

And it depends how picky you are too i guess. I like pretty much any genre, and I don't watch more than a couple eps a day, so good ones never run out. ^^

Maybe they'll all get together and brainstorm up some more ideas, if everything is getting old now.

You were the 10,000th reply, I was the 10,000th post.

Anime sucks now because of Lucky Star.


elaborate please

I'll try to elaborate with as little opinion as possible, which will be hard since the entire premise of the question is based on an opinion (whether or not anime sucks now or not).

Lucky Star started a trend of producing moe-blob slice of life shows. Have you noticed a noticable drop on the darker, action oriented shows recently? Have you noticed a rise in the amount of life of life shows, or moeblob shows recently? You might be able to credit Haruhi with this (because Lucky Star was partly inspired by Haruhi IMO), but I wouldn't because IMO Haruhi was a good show.

The context of my answer was to the question: "is it just me or is anime getting shittier by the year?" If you accept that anime sucks now, which is entirely opinion based, then you would think it sucks now because of current trends in anime. And the current trends in anime are pretty much what I talked about in the above paragraph. And then you just have to look at the source of the trend, which I see as Lucky Star. If you don't think anime is getting shittier by the year, then obviously you wouldn't agree with the statment "anime sucks because of Lucky Star", and you didn't agree with the premise of the question.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 09 2010 01:43 GMT
#10009
I think that with the winter season we'll just have to see the reactions to the shows. Most of them sound pretty uninteresting.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 09 2010 02:02 GMT
#10010
I haven't had a show go and grab my attention in about 3 years now. There were shows that I was excited about, but nothing good enough to keep my attention for an entire season. So I would agree with Sentenal's point of view, but I wouldn't say Lucky Star was the reason of doing so. I would credit to the fact that the recent economic decline puts a bigger part on the squeeze where profits are higher on the priority list. And if you think fundamental quality = profits, well then there's no point in going any further in the discussion.

That being said, my expectations for this winter season are low. I wish that wasn't the case, but it is.
Get it by your hands...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 09 2010 02:33 GMT
#10011
On December 09 2010 11:02 Judicator wrote:
I haven't had a show go and grab my attention in about 3 years now. There were shows that I was excited about, but nothing good enough to keep my attention for an entire season. So I would agree with Sentenal's point of view, but I wouldn't say Lucky Star was the reason of doing so. I would credit to the fact that the recent economic decline puts a bigger part on the squeeze where profits are higher on the priority list. And if you think fundamental quality = profits, well then there's no point in going any further in the discussion.

That being said, my expectations for this winter season are low. I wish that wasn't the case, but it is.

I think I sort of agree. But I think it also ties into what I was saying, because it seems like shows like Lucky Star wouldn't require the effort or budget that a show like Gurren Lagann would require, and at the same time are still popular/would generate alot of profit.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 09 2010 02:53 GMT
#10012
TWGOK chapter 13:

+ Show Spoiler +
What's with Elsee and fire trucks?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
December 09 2010 05:12 GMT
#10013
On December 09 2010 11:53 Ferrose wrote:
TWGOK chapter 13:

+ Show Spoiler +
What's with Elsee and fire trucks?

They're BIG. And RED.

By the way, did you really need to spoiler that? I mean, the anime's past that part too, and it's not like it's a major plot point or anything.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 09 2010 05:17 GMT
#10014
I just didn't know if anyone wanted to know of Elsee's obsession with fire trucks.

It's so great too; it just adds to her cuteness and awesomeness.

I finished volume 2, which I'm guessing is where season one ends, since that's the end of the Shiori arc. I can't wait to get into the non-animated stuff :D
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
December 09 2010 05:28 GMT
#10015
Has there been anything at the level of Death Note or Code Geass recently? Or slated to come in the future?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 09 2010 05:32 GMT
#10016
You can probably stick a fork in both of them, they are done (in terms of actual anime series). The most you could hope for is a movie or something out of either of them. Or in Code Geass' case, manga. I don't see how they could pull off any further sequels on either of them, considering where they left off at the end. Maybe they could fit in some side storys or prequels for Geass. But any attempt at a sequel would be the second coming of Gundam SEED Destiny.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 09 2010 05:35 GMT
#10017
On December 09 2010 14:32 Sentenal wrote:
You can probably stick a fork in both of them, they are done (in terms of actual anime series). The most you could hope for is a movie or something out of either of them. Or in Code Geass' case, manga. I don't see how they could pull off any further sequels on either of them, considering where they left off at the end. Maybe they could fit in some side storys or prequels for Geass. But any attempt at a sequel would be the second coming of Gundam SEED Destiny.


I think there is a manga adaptation of Geass, actually.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
December 09 2010 05:46 GMT
#10018
Wasn't there talk of a new Geass series for a while? What happened with that.

Meh, I probably wouldn't watch it anyways. I didn't even like the original that much, let alone season 2.
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HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 05:58:09
December 09 2010 05:51 GMT
#10019
On December 09 2010 14:17 Ferrose wrote:
I just didn't know if anyone wanted to know of Elsee's obsession with fire trucks.

It's so great too; it just adds to her cuteness and awesomeness.

I finished volume 2, which I'm guessing is where season one ends, since that's the end of the Shiori arc. I can't wait to get into the non-animated stuff :D


FIRE TRUCKS. =D

Season one, ideally, should resolve with the Shiori arc as there's literally no time left to cover Kusonoki.

What I (and arguably other fans) am personally hoping is that if the second season does go underway, I really hope that it at least gets to + Show Spoiler +
Haqua's arc
.

+ Show Spoiler +
Though I wonder if the anime staff intend on introducing Tenri and Diana earlier than expected, given Apollo's insinuated presence in the Kanon arc; that would be pretty cool but they would have to really rush the other arcs in that case, and IIRC, Chihiro and Jun's arcs are amongst the longest arcs in KamiNomi.


On December 09 2010 10:21 Sentenal wrote:
I'll try to elaborate with as little opinion as possible, which will be hard since the entire premise of the question is based on an opinion (whether or not anime sucks now or not).

Lucky Star started a trend of producing moe-blob slice of life shows. Have you noticed a noticable drop on the darker, action oriented shows recently? Have you noticed a rise in the amount of life of life shows, or moeblob shows recently? You might be able to credit Haruhi with this (because Lucky Star was partly inspired by Haruhi IMO), but I wouldn't because IMO Haruhi was a good show.


Personally:

Haruhi somewhat started it.
Lucky Star solidified it/continued it.
Other smaller shows followed the trend (Kannagi/Minami-ke)
K-ON! popularized the concept and made it solidly popular amongst mainstream audiences.

Or in Starcraft terms (sorry if this offends anyone) to simplify matters, the trend's rising in modern anime can be comparable to the development of the Bisu Build:

Haruhi = DaezanG
Lucky Star/smaller slice-of-life series = Nal_rA
K-ON! = Bisu

(This is open to debate however: some can see Lucky Star in place of K-ON!, in which case K-ON! is considered to simply be the next carrier of the moe-centered slice-of-life trend, in which it can be reworked as:

Haruhi = DaezanG + Nal_rA
Lucky Star = Bisu
K-ON! = Kal/free/mOvie/Stork/any modern successful Protoss).

Personally Lucky Star wasn't too bad of a show and isn't the primary antagonist in the recent rise of moe-centered slice-of-life series; while it may have had a hand in its beginning moments, I think K-ON! is the largest offender of popularizing the said trend. Whether if its good or bad is a subjective opinion and is a seperate matter.

However, I DO have a comment concerning the quality of the executions of anime series in the 2010 season: while debatable, there are strong signs of a particular trend gradually showing itself which if not quickly taken care of brings the quality of future anime series into question. The trend for 2010 series appears to be:

-Strong, solid beginning with decent introductions and a promise to deliver a great storyline with characters possessing a lot of potential to be developed in various ways
-Partial deviation from initial expectations/intentions/general developments, resulting in the gradual development of doubt, though the quality has not yet dropped to the point of being dropped on a large scale
-Series either starts to completely lose its way or already has: character and plot development have taken a backseat in favor of filler material resulting in a feeling of the series simply being dragged on for no good reason and genuine interest in the series is lost
-Series suddenly remembers that it had a plot but because of the unnecessary filler material that took up precious development time, the conclusions on the plot and characters becomes rushed and inconclusive as a whole; many questions are left unanswered, resulting in an unsatisfactory response from a good portion of the audience

Granted not ALL series that have aired in 2010 are offenders of this case but it has been making itself more and more apparent as of late. The strongest offender of this trend this year as Angel Beats!, and currently airing series that are guilty of this are OreImo and Fortune Arterial (I would accuse MM!, but I just stopped taking it seriously after the Dragon Ball parody episode).

tl;dr: 2010 wasn't a very strong year for anime. I hope 2011 strongly makes up for it.
HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-09 05:56:37
December 09 2010 05:56 GMT
#10020
EDIT: Delete double post.,
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