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On May 05 2015 17:10 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 09:11 IceHism wrote:On May 05 2015 08:48 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 07:40 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 07:30 IceHism wrote:On May 05 2015 06:23 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 05:54 Unleashing wrote:On May 05 2015 05:53 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 05:45 Unleashing wrote:[quote] + Show Spoiler +In regards to the bolded, counter-guardians have most definitely been explained and mentioned. From episode 1 of the second cour: Rin: "When was it that i finally figured out what that dream really was? That it was a certain heroic spirit's mental landscape. Among many heroic spirits, the servants, there are special servants that are safeguards, called "protectors." They are summoned into the various ages, and prevent the human world's destruction. No, more accurately, they prevent the human race from destroying itself. Even though he was summoned to save humanity, before he could save them, he was first forced to clean up the messes that humans had made. It didn't take many summonings for him to determine that it was futile and start despising the human world. In the end, he continued to be betrayed by his ideal, even after death." This is with CRs subs, they decided to translate the guardians as protectors but it's the same thing really. And as you can see, this is why archer wants to kill shirou, to maybe, just maybe free himself from this loop of misery. Also, how can you not know about shirou's 'parental line'? It's been a huge part of the story that he was orphaned and then adopted, that entire event is what makes shirou the character that he is. And the pendant IS rin's pendant, a memento from her father, however, after saving shirou's life the pendant ends up in shirou's hands and when archer gives back rin a pendant it's not the current shirou got but the one shirou would end up carrying with him even many years from now. The reason why rin was surprised is because, there should only be one of this pendant but currently there are two. [quote] + Show Spoiler +Archer isn't the product of the fate route, from a Q&A with someone asking about if the HF route is where shirou becomes archer: A: I’ll just say now that he doesn’t become a Heroic Spirit in any of the routes, but the possibility is still present in all of them as well. Basically, the probability of it happening is almost zero. Well it happened in some scenario because Archer + Show Spoiler +clearly participated in the grail war back when he was a kid. + Show Spoiler +Archer can basically be the product of any one of the routes, but the chance of the shirou we're currently following becoming archer is almost zero.
You have to imagine that if the events of the UBW route played out 10k times then maybe one of those times shirou ends up as archer.
The answer i posted in my previous post is from Nasu, so it's basically 'word of god' in regards to fate i suppose Honestly, when it comes to "word of god" in regards to the Nasuverse, you gotta take it with a grain of salt. You need to look no farther than the Power Level Tier List by Nasu to see some retarded shit. what is nasu's power level tier list? Do we have the angel types(like type mercury or type moon) at the top or some other reality writing entities with links to the akashic record like void shiki? It took me a while to find, since this list is fairly old (/jp/ used to rage about it and call it shit back in like 2009 and earlier), and I'm unable to find the original source, but: + Show Spoiler +ORT > Crimson Moon > Primate Murder > Zelretch > Gilgamesh > Arcueid ≥ Black Sakura > Berserker = Black Saber ≥ Saber > Lancer > Rider = Archer > Caster ≥ Aoko = Nrvnqsr = Kouma = Barthomeloi ≥ Kojirou > Ciel ≥ Great Teacher Hassan (GTH) ≥ "Ryougi Shiki" > V Sion = AC Satsuki = R.Shiki = Bazett ≥ Akiha = Fujino = Araya ≥ Touko = Alba ≥ 18th Roa > > SHIKI = Kiri = Reinforced Kuzuki ≥ Sion = UBW Shirou > ha Avenger > Nanaya = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Leysritt > Satsuki ≥ Rio = Avalon Shirou > ha Sakura > Salaryman Dead = Ilya = Corpse ≥ Azaka ≥ Misayo > Kirie = Zombie ≥ Dragon Tooth Warrior ≥ Fuji-nee > Shinji > Fake Shiki What a lulzy list, Seems like he banged it out in like 10 min and didn't really think of what actually happened in the various stories lol. what do you find disagreeable about it? Well I don't know any of the chars that are outside of the Fate universe. But lets see. + Show Spoiler +To start I would say Illya is way to low. Saber + Avalon should be higher. Black Sakura should be above Gil imo since iirc she effortlessly absorbed him in HF. Lancer being above Rider, Archer, and Caster seems a bit off too. Kirei is on there twice (? Unless Kirie is someone else) but either way hes too low to since irrc in F/HA it was said he was probably stronger then Bazett so he should be up there. I don't like that UBW Shirou gets placed a head of so many of the mages either but plot armor carried him to somehow beating Gil so I guess? Even though he still ranks below Kuzuki so that is weird. There is also some other small things that seem weird like Leysritt's placement But to be fair, with how the routes played out (with characters being stronger or weaker depending on how the plot of a particular route demanded they be) you get some uneven and not entirely consistent power rankings. + Show Spoiler +Ilya has latent power, but very little combat ability.
Lancer is brutally OP to anyone that can't survive losing their heart, which includes Rider, Archer and Caster. If he was actually allowed to fight properly, it's basically instant death the moment he's in range.
Bazett placement is kind of messy because she has Fragarach, which lets her fight people well above her.
Gilgamesh is supposed to be stronger than everyone except some of the actual gods of the universe. He's just so arrogant that he believes most opponents are beneath much of his arsenal, which is why he loses to characters that are much weaker than him. Really, if he was remotely pragmatic he'd just use Ea and kill everyone instantly.
Kiri is from KnK.
Kuzuki is a master assassin or something with a lifetime of training, but his ranking is still based around having the buffs from a Servant.
UBW Shirou beats most conventional humans and mages purely by virtue of spamming noble phantasms.
Avalon Saber really can't be ranked any higher. I mean, it's basically just Gods, demigods and immortals that are higher up. I mean, power rankings are always lulzy, but it makes sense for the most part.
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, i'd definitely agree about Lancer being>Caster, Rider and Archer. Sadly, he rarely gets to display this because being lancer is suffering  He has huge immunity to ranged attacks from enemies he can see, meaning he can easily take on archer since he wrecks him in close combat. He's a monster slayer so he also wrecks Rider. He also has magic resistance for fighting caster although it wont work on the bigger spells she has in her arsenal. And neither of the three have a high enough luck stack to hope to dodge gae bolg except for just maybe caster.
Edit: Wow, according to the author of DxD a movie might be happening in the future, but it wont be volume 9 apparently.
I do wonder what it'll be then.
Source:
Although i'd definitely rather have a 2cour season 4 adapting volume 9, 10, 11 and 12.
Especially so since those are probably where some of the best parts of the series is.
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On May 05 2015 17:14 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 17:10 WolfintheSheep wrote:On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 09:11 IceHism wrote:On May 05 2015 08:48 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 07:40 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 07:30 IceHism wrote:On May 05 2015 06:23 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 05:54 Unleashing wrote:On May 05 2015 05:53 Slaughter wrote:[quote] Well it happened in some scenario because Archer + Show Spoiler +clearly participated in the grail war back when he was a kid. + Show Spoiler +Archer can basically be the product of any one of the routes, but the chance of the shirou we're currently following becoming archer is almost zero.
You have to imagine that if the events of the UBW route played out 10k times then maybe one of those times shirou ends up as archer.
The answer i posted in my previous post is from Nasu, so it's basically 'word of god' in regards to fate i suppose Honestly, when it comes to "word of god" in regards to the Nasuverse, you gotta take it with a grain of salt. You need to look no farther than the Power Level Tier List by Nasu to see some retarded shit. what is nasu's power level tier list? Do we have the angel types(like type mercury or type moon) at the top or some other reality writing entities with links to the akashic record like void shiki? It took me a while to find, since this list is fairly old (/jp/ used to rage about it and call it shit back in like 2009 and earlier), and I'm unable to find the original source, but: + Show Spoiler +ORT > Crimson Moon > Primate Murder > Zelretch > Gilgamesh > Arcueid ≥ Black Sakura > Berserker = Black Saber ≥ Saber > Lancer > Rider = Archer > Caster ≥ Aoko = Nrvnqsr = Kouma = Barthomeloi ≥ Kojirou > Ciel ≥ Great Teacher Hassan (GTH) ≥ "Ryougi Shiki" > V Sion = AC Satsuki = R.Shiki = Bazett ≥ Akiha = Fujino = Araya ≥ Touko = Alba ≥ 18th Roa > > SHIKI = Kiri = Reinforced Kuzuki ≥ Sion = UBW Shirou > ha Avenger > Nanaya = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Leysritt > Satsuki ≥ Rio = Avalon Shirou > ha Sakura > Salaryman Dead = Ilya = Corpse ≥ Azaka ≥ Misayo > Kirie = Zombie ≥ Dragon Tooth Warrior ≥ Fuji-nee > Shinji > Fake Shiki What a lulzy list, Seems like he banged it out in like 10 min and didn't really think of what actually happened in the various stories lol. what do you find disagreeable about it? Well I don't know any of the chars that are outside of the Fate universe. But lets see. + Show Spoiler +To start I would say Illya is way to low. Saber + Avalon should be higher. Black Sakura should be above Gil imo since iirc she effortlessly absorbed him in HF. Lancer being above Rider, Archer, and Caster seems a bit off too. Kirei is on there twice (? Unless Kirie is someone else) but either way hes too low to since irrc in F/HA it was said he was probably stronger then Bazett so he should be up there. I don't like that UBW Shirou gets placed a head of so many of the mages either but plot armor carried him to somehow beating Gil so I guess? Even though he still ranks below Kuzuki so that is weird. There is also some other small things that seem weird like Leysritt's placement But to be fair, with how the routes played out (with characters being stronger or weaker depending on how the plot of a particular route demanded they be) you get some uneven and not entirely consistent power rankings. + Show Spoiler +Ilya has latent power, but very little combat ability.
Lancer is brutally OP to anyone that can't survive losing their heart, which includes Rider, Archer and Caster. If he was actually allowed to fight properly, it's basically instant death the moment he's in range.
Bazett placement is kind of messy because she has Fragarach, which lets her fight people well above her.
Gilgamesh is supposed to be stronger than everyone except some of the actual gods of the universe. He's just so arrogant that he believes most opponents are beneath much of his arsenal, which is why he loses to characters that are much weaker than him. Really, if he was remotely pragmatic he'd just use Ea and kill everyone instantly.
Kiri is from KnK.
Kuzuki is a master assassin or something with a lifetime of training, but his ranking is still based around having the buffs from a Servant.
UBW Shirou beats most conventional humans and mages purely by virtue of spamming noble phantasms.
Avalon Saber really can't be ranked any higher. I mean, it's basically just Gods, demigods and immortals that are higher up. I mean, power rankings are always lulzy, but it makes sense for the most part. + Show Spoiler +Yeah, i'd definitely agree about Lancer being>Caster, Rider and Archer. Sadly, he rarely gets to display this because being lancer is suffering He has huge immunity to ranged attacks from enemies he can see, meaning he can easily take on archer since he wrecks him in close combat. He's a monster slayer so he also wrecks Rider. He also has magic resistance for fighting caster although it wont work on the bigger spells she has in her arsenal. And neither of the three have a high enough luck stack to hope to dodge gae bolg except for just maybe caster. Edit: Wow, according to the author of DxD a movie might be happening in the future, but it wont be volume 9 apparently. I do wonder what it'll be then. Source: https://twitter.com/ishibumi_ddd/status/595089135934648320Although i'd definitely rather have a 2cour season 4 adapting volume 9, 10, 11 and 12. Especially so since those are probably where some of the best parts of the series is.
definitely want two cour season over. I need to experience depressed akeno from vol 12
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On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on.
Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place.
Anyways, I randomly started LotGH and Mushishi now. LotGH ep1 was like the first movie but cut down so it would fit into an 24 minute episode - aka the same thing but worse. I assume that was more of an introduction for people that didn't watch the first movie. Mushishi ep1 was excellent. I'm still not even half through GitS#2 but I felt like I need something else before I continue, lol.
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On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place.
Disregarding the eroge and girl part of it it's because each route explores shirou's ideals in a different fashion.
+ Show Spoiler +In fate he takes his ideals to the limit and is a general idiot because he doesn't compromise on his ideals even remotely.
In Unlimited Blade Works shirou sees the hypocrisy in his ideals but still refuses to give up on them completely even though he knows his ideal is impossible to achieve.
And finally in Heaven's feel he's made to choose between his Ideal and Reality.
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On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place.
It's just 3 different stories all starting from the same point. Think of it as an author writing a book but having multiple versions of what he wants so instead of just picking he he writes all those versions and releases them as new books. It's not quite that as each route kind of builds on each other but it's close enough. Ideally if it was a novel instead of VN it would merely make a longer story that incorporates the elements of the routes instead of splitting it.
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Saw 4 episodes of yamada. Hayamin is too cool
I wanna see urara and yamada date
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On May 05 2015 18:20 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place. Disregarding the eroge and girl part of it it's because each route explores shirou's ideals in a different fashion. + Show Spoiler +In fate he takes his ideals to the limit and is a general idiot because he doesn't compromise on his ideals even remotely.
In Unlimited Blade Works shirou sees the hypocrisy in his ideals but still refuses to give up on them completely even though he knows his ideal is impossible to achieve.
And finally in Heaven's feel he's made to choose between his Ideal and Reality.
On May 05 2015 19:29 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place. It's just 3 different stories all starting from the same point. Think of it as an author writing a book but having multiple versions of what he wants so instead of just picking he he writes all those versions and releases them as new books. It's not quite that as each route kind of builds on each other but it's close enough. Ideally if it was a novel instead of VN it would merely make a longer story that incorporates the elements of the routes instead of splitting it.
Thanks, that explains it. I agree with the sentiment of the bolded part, although I'm able to see why it was done this way for the visual novel.
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On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place. Anyways, I randomly started LotGH and Mushishi now. LotGH ep1 was like the first movie but cut down so it would fit into an 24 minute episode - aka the same thing but worse. I assume that was more of an introduction for people that didn't watch the first movie. Mushishi ep1 was excellent. I'm still not even half through GitS#2 but I felt like I need something else before I continue, lol.
Are you sure it was the first movie you watched, and not the second? Its the second movie that was basically a movie version of the first 2 eps.
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Arslan Senki episode 5
so fucking good actually .. also one of the characters on OP makes an appearance
now when shall that archer girl appear
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On May 05 2015 21:01 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place. Anyways, I randomly started LotGH and Mushishi now. LotGH ep1 was like the first movie but cut down so it would fit into an 24 minute episode - aka the same thing but worse. I assume that was more of an introduction for people that didn't watch the first movie. Mushishi ep1 was excellent. I'm still not even half through GitS#2 but I felt like I need something else before I continue, lol. Are you sure it was the first movie you watched, and not the second? Its the second movie that was basically a movie version of the first 2 eps.
Pretty sure. I watched "My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars". In my book that's the first movie.
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Question about High School Born. I just finished vol 6 and see at the end there's the Akeno date thing that you guys were talking about earlier in thread but when I check anidb it says there's only 5 eps out. Did they cover 2 vols in 4 eps??
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On May 05 2015 23:28 Numy wrote:
Question about High School Born. I just finished vol 6 and see at the end there's the Akeno date thing that you guys were talking about earlier in thread but when I check anidb it says there's only 5 eps out. Did they cover 2 vols in 4 eps??
No, author rearranged the order of events and how things happens to fit 3 volumes (5,6,7) into a single season.
As a result Akeno's mini-arc got rushed and butchered pretty hard.
Doesn't even seem like the rating games between Rias and Sona is going to happen in the anime at all :/
Vol 5 and 7 got butchered pretty hard to make room for vol 6 it seems.
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On May 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:
Arslan Senki episode 5
so fucking good actually .. also one of the characters on OP makes an appearance
now when shall that archer girl appear
falangies? shes ok.
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On May 05 2015 23:50 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 23:28 Numy wrote:
Question about High School Born. I just finished vol 6 and see at the end there's the Akeno date thing that you guys were talking about earlier in thread but when I check anidb it says there's only 5 eps out. Did they cover 2 vols in 4 eps?? No, author rearranged the order of events and how things happens to fit 3 volumes (5,6,7) into a single season. As a result Akeno's mini-arc got rushed and butchered pretty hard. Doesn't even seem like the rating games between Rias and Sona is going to happen in the anime at all :/ Vol 5 and 7 got butchered pretty hard to make room for vol 6 it seems.
Whaaat but that was such a cool Saji moment and you get the first taste of koneko-chan. I don't really get the point of rushing stuff to fit in one season.
edit: Wait so why are they going on a date then if the reason for the date is because of what happened at the climax of vol 6 which only really works due to the events that happened in vol 5 and the rating game with Sona. Have they already done the climax of 6? Then did they just skip all of 5(The Dragon,Koneko's struggles,Akeno's struggles etc.)?
Honestly sounds like it's no longer an adaption but now it's own entity that merely shares the same name and start of High School DxD. How fucking hard is is just to adapt material for fuck sakes. I don't get it either as the author says at the end of vol 6 that that is the end of the "arc" that start since 2/3. Why then shove 7 into it as well?
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On May 05 2015 23:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:
Arslan Senki episode 5
so fucking good actually .. also one of the characters on OP makes an appearance
now when shall that archer girl appear falangies? shes ok.
i mean there's literally no girl to root for outside her every anime has girl to root for
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On May 06 2015 00:01 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 23:50 Unleashing wrote:On May 05 2015 23:28 Numy wrote:
Question about High School Born. I just finished vol 6 and see at the end there's the Akeno date thing that you guys were talking about earlier in thread but when I check anidb it says there's only 5 eps out. Did they cover 2 vols in 4 eps?? No, author rearranged the order of events and how things happens to fit 3 volumes (5,6,7) into a single season. As a result Akeno's mini-arc got rushed and butchered pretty hard. Doesn't even seem like the rating games between Rias and Sona is going to happen in the anime at all :/ Vol 5 and 7 got butchered pretty hard to make room for vol 6 it seems. Whaaat but that was such a cool Saji moment and you get the first taste of koneko-chan. I don't really get the point of rushing stuff to fit in one season.
Because they are worried doing it 2 cour won't sell? IDK wtf they are doing because it just makes an inferior product when they keep squeezing things into single cours (even if the episode count starts to climb everything is still rushed anyway).
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There's no real evidence to suggest doing 2 cour wouldn't sell as both seasons so far have sold really well(I think it's their only show that sells well). They also don't even need to do a 2 cour to fit 5/6 into 13 eps. May have to trim a bit here and there but it'd still be a better product than trying to fit 5/6/7 into 13 eps. Meh I don't get the media industry at all. It's like they so set in "how things should be done" that they'd rather butcher something and lose money than merely change "how they do things" slightly. Fucking animals.
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On May 06 2015 00:01 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 23:50 Unleashing wrote:On May 05 2015 23:28 Numy wrote:
Question about High School Born. I just finished vol 6 and see at the end there's the Akeno date thing that you guys were talking about earlier in thread but when I check anidb it says there's only 5 eps out. Did they cover 2 vols in 4 eps?? No, author rearranged the order of events and how things happens to fit 3 volumes (5,6,7) into a single season. As a result Akeno's mini-arc got rushed and butchered pretty hard. Doesn't even seem like the rating games between Rias and Sona is going to happen in the anime at all :/ Vol 5 and 7 got butchered pretty hard to make room for vol 6 it seems. Whaaat but that was such a cool Saji moment and you get the first taste of koneko-chan. I don't really get the point of rushing stuff to fit in one season. edit: Wait so why are they going on a date then if the reason for the date is because of what happened at the climax of vol 6 which only really works due to the events that happened in vol 5 and the rating game with Sona. Have they already done the climax of 6? Then did they just skip all of 5(The Dragon,Koneko's struggles,Akeno's struggles etc.)? Honestly sounds like it's no longer an adaption but now it's own entity that merely shares the same name and start of High School DxD. How fucking hard is is just to adapt material for fuck sakes. I don't get it either as the author says at the end of vol 6 that that is the end of the "arc" that start since 2/3. Why then shove 7 into it as well?
I have no idea, it's still the same things happening just in different orders and for different reasons.
It really blows.
Mountain training took 5 minutes, no moments of sona standing up for her dreams against the high-tier devils, no rating games between the young devils, no issei vs saji, no gasper getting motivated to improve himself and seeking out grigori after going out first in the rating game, no akeno losing her shit during the rating game for losing her chance to show issei that she had accepted who she was, no xenovia realizing that she had fallen behind kiba and finding new resolve to improve herself, etc.
It kind of sucks because the first 2 seasons were almost 1:1 adaptions but they decided to rush this season to fit 3 volumes into it, hopefully this means we'll get volume 9 and 10 adopted properly(because that's the only reason i could see for it happening, to end the next season on volume 10 instead of 9 because volume 9 would be an incredibly awkward spot to end a cour), but even that doesn't seem possible since a lot of the things in those volumes build upon the events of 5,6 and 7 that now no longer happens or happens in a different order.
Maybe they can save the sinking ship with the adaption of volume 6 which should be relatively faithful according to the TV-guide episode description.
All i'm hoping for new is Juggernaut Drive to happen properly(It's in the opening so it's sure that it will happen, just not how), if that doesn't happen then this season will be such a fucking waste.
If [You made the wrong choice] is cut then i'm just gonna lose all hope for the DxD anime forever.
Edit: Also i'm so fucking disappointed that they didn't change Issei's character design post mountain training, he was meant to become pretty buff from it but he's still just fairly lanky in the anime.
TV guide episode description for anyone curious:
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Episode 6: The second semester starts, and Irina enters the Kuoh Academy. Meanwhile, Diodora, a Devil from Asia's past comes to see her and proposes to her!?
Episode 7: Diodora challenges Rias to a Rating Game where the winner will receive or keep Asia as their Bishop.
Episode 8: Diodora kidnaps Asia before the start of the Rating Game and Khaos Brigade attacks in the midst of the chaos. Angered over having Asia taken, Issei vows to defeat Diodora and rescue Asia. Meanwhile, Sirzechs and Azazel starts to take action.
Episode 9: After successfully fending off the Old Satan Faction, the members present are taken by surprise through the sudden appearance of the Khaos Brigade's leader Ophis.
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That just what. They can't cut [You made the wrong choice]. No wait they will just to show they don't give two shits about LN readers.
+ Show Spoiler +So they basically doing vol 6 without doing any of vol 5 and putting on vol 7 before all this. Ophis appears right at the start of the big battle so how can they have successfully fended the faction off if she's already there and leaves after big Red Dragon. That means Akeno/Rias going anal and destroying those bishops/Queen won't be in as they already gone on the date? Or maybe they'll just pull some new bullshit that Koneko tells Ise to say to get them arguing.
Arg. Whatever. Fuck you studio. You get me into this trashy shit then you go and piss all over it. Cut so many awesome moments for what? Just to show you can be the bigger dick? Fuck you!
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