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On May 06 2015 04:02 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 03:36 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 22:37 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 21:01 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place. Anyways, I randomly started LotGH and Mushishi now. LotGH ep1 was like the first movie but cut down so it would fit into an 24 minute episode - aka the same thing but worse. I assume that was more of an introduction for people that didn't watch the first movie. Mushishi ep1 was excellent. I'm still not even half through GitS#2 but I felt like I need something else before I continue, lol. Are you sure it was the first movie you watched, and not the second? Its the second movie that was basically a movie version of the first 2 eps. Pretty sure. I watched "My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars". In my book that's the first movie. That is indeed the first movie. So i'm curious what you meant in that case, then, since the first movie is pretty distinct from the Astate Encounter. + Show Spoiler +I was talking about the scheme. Sure, the backround of the encounter was another in each one but it was pretty much the fleets facing each other. Then we had the tactical counterplay between Reinhard and Wenli, switching back between the two. Wenli again had his problems with his superiors multiple times while Reinhard had to face rebellious, jealous officers. It was like a copy of the scheme with changed backround and tactics inserted. They also "cut" a lot of political intrigue, details etc. to flesh everything out.
The only thing that really differt was the fact that Wenli and Reinhard already knew each other from the battle of the first movie.
+ Show Spoiler +Sure I guess. I mean, its the same setting, same director, and the TV series takes place almost immediately after the 1st Movie, so ofc the general situation of the characters will be the same. The actual battle and what happens is extremely different from each other, I thought. The 2nd movie, 'Overture to a New War' fleshes out episode 1 and 2 by a whole lot, if you ever get around to watching it. One of the big weaknesses ep1/2 had was you really didn't have enough time to car about some characters, like Lapp for instance. Overture fixes that, and actually molds the guy into a character.
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Mikagura is so enjoyable. <3 + Show Spoiler +Seisa is getting a bit friendly and Eruna being awesome as always. The fight at the end was super onesided, I kind of expected a comeback, but I guess it was to display that some clubs are hard countering others.
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On May 06 2015 04:57 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 03:36 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 22:37 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 21:01 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place. Anyways, I randomly started LotGH and Mushishi now. LotGH ep1 was like the first movie but cut down so it would fit into an 24 minute episode - aka the same thing but worse. I assume that was more of an introduction for people that didn't watch the first movie. Mushishi ep1 was excellent. I'm still not even half through GitS#2 but I felt like I need something else before I continue, lol. Are you sure it was the first movie you watched, and not the second? Its the second movie that was basically a movie version of the first 2 eps. Pretty sure. I watched "My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars". In my book that's the first movie. That is indeed the first movie. So i'm curious what you meant in that case, then, since the first movie is pretty distinct from the Astate Encounter. On May 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:
Arslan Senki episode 5
so fucking good actually .. also one of the characters on OP makes an appearance
now when shall that archer girl appear >Drops LOGH halfway through the first movie >"Fantasy LOGH is so fucking good!" Goody plz Well, if there was a random pilot girl in the ED it might be different.
Missed this, but
+ Show Spoiler +
goody has no excuse imoimo
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On May 06 2015 05:04 Numy wrote:
Ye should just read the novels imo. Some of the history info is nifty though.
Don't forget OnC either.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
LoGH was quite decent. i still like crest of the stars better because cute girls though
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who watches shows for cute girls though
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On May 06 2015 03:36 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:
Arslan Senki episode 5
so fucking good actually .. also one of the characters on OP makes an appearance
now when shall that archer girl appear >Drops LOGH halfway through the first movie >"Fantasy LOGH is so fucking good!" Goody plz
well i don't have to wait like 20 episodes before it starts to get exciting(from what i heard i have to wait), i don't have to remember 1239712873 characters along the way and did i ever mention i don't enjoy watching space opera ?
so yeah there's a difference actually a difference between them .. oh also i already finished the LoGH movie man
On May 06 2015 09:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
who watches shows for cute girls though
you don't get to tell me how i live my life !!!!
On May 06 2015 07:57 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:57 ragz_gt wrote:On May 06 2015 03:36 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 22:37 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 21:01 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 18:12 Miragee wrote:On May 05 2015 15:23 Slaughter wrote:On May 05 2015 15:13 Miragee wrote:What's wrong with Seraph? The animation quality of ep5 was almost as bad as in Ninja Slayer... On May 05 2015 07:00 Sentenal wrote:
Its kind of an important plot element, though. So much so that many people would sooner consider UBW to be "Archer Route" rather than "Rin Route" lol To be honest, I don't really care about the whole "Route" idea. The concept of taking the base story and changing the perspective/focus on one other main character and some key points (?) doesn't seem interesting to me. For me it's just a story that is told and in UBW the main characters are probably Rin, Shirou and Archer. From everything I saw so far, I don't know why it should be called the Rin Route nor why it should be called Archer Route. They are just two out of three main characters. Its because there are multiple routes in the VN. Same characters but in the other routes (or version of the story) other characters are emphasized and others deemphasized. Different themes are presented and Shirou faces different challenges to his ideals. Like in the Fate route its all about Shirou and Saber, in Heaven's Feel route its about Shirou and Sakura. Shirou being the center of the story never changes since he is the protag but what other characters do changes as does their importance. Rider for example doesn't get rofl off screen killed in every route and plays a much larger roll in Heaven's Feel so you actually learn and see more about her character. Every route reveals more about what is going on. Yeah I know. But I don't understand why they had to split it up into routes in the first place. Anyways, I randomly started LotGH and Mushishi now. LotGH ep1 was like the first movie but cut down so it would fit into an 24 minute episode - aka the same thing but worse. I assume that was more of an introduction for people that didn't watch the first movie. Mushishi ep1 was excellent. I'm still not even half through GitS#2 but I felt like I need something else before I continue, lol. Are you sure it was the first movie you watched, and not the second? Its the second movie that was basically a movie version of the first 2 eps. Pretty sure. I watched "My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars". In my book that's the first movie. That is indeed the first movie. So i'm curious what you meant in that case, then, since the first movie is pretty distinct from the Astate Encounter. On May 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:
Arslan Senki episode 5
so fucking good actually .. also one of the characters on OP makes an appearance
now when shall that archer girl appear >Drops LOGH halfway through the first movie >"Fantasy LOGH is so fucking good!" Goody plz Well, if there was a random pilot girl in the ED it might be different. Missed this, but + Show Spoiler +goody has no excuse imoimo
damn it i didn't notice there's a girl on the ed lol
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LoGH has way more romance than Arslan Senki, another important goody difference.
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stop tempting me to watch 110 episodes for romance !
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I watch anime for the harem mcs and to pick up the latest fashion trends.
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On May 06 2015 11:14 goody153 wrote:
stop tempting me to watch 110 episodes for romance !
nobody is forcing you to, watch it if you want, don't be disappointed if it doesn't have enough of what you want.
On May 06 2015 11:02 KazeHydra wrote:
LoGH has way more romance than Arslan Senki, another important goody difference.
You'd think there'd be more with a "man who would be king" story.
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On May 06 2015 09:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
who watches shows for cute girls though
...most people?
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On May 06 2015 11:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 11:14 goody153 wrote:
stop tempting me to watch 110 episodes for romance ! nobody is forcing you to, watch it if you want, don't be disappointed if it doesn't have enough of what you want. .
br so serious
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On May 06 2015 10:48 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 03:36 Sentenal wrote:On May 05 2015 21:57 goody153 wrote:
Arslan Senki episode 5
so fucking good actually .. also one of the characters on OP makes an appearance
now when shall that archer girl appear >Drops LOGH halfway through the first movie >"Fantasy LOGH is so fucking good!" Goody plz well i don't have to wait like 20 episodes before it starts to get exciting(from what i heard i have to wait), i don't have to remember 1239712873 characters along the way and did i ever mention i don't enjoy watching space opera ? so yeah there's a difference actually a difference between them .. oh also i already finished the LoGH movie man
A few points I would like to make. First, I like how you are pulling episode numbers out of your ass, guy-who-never-watched-it to know it somehow takes "20" episodes for LoGH to get good, which is horseshit. Second, there has already been like 13482379878025 characters along the way in Arslan and it looks to continue to get bigger, exactly like LOGH. Third, I lied about it being a few, I'm ranting here. Fourth, "don't like space opera" is such a bad excuse. How superficial can someone be? Are you going to tell me you hate anything that has "science fiction" in it? Change the horses to space ships. Wow, Arslan is now LOGH! Thats how similar they are, and somehow only one "so fucking good". Also, don't talk about how different they are we when you haven't seen both things in question.
Not to knock Arslan, but because Arslan is really good, AOTY, and so far like the only anime I've ever seen actually worthy to be compared to LOGH, but it has a few things in it that make it clearly outclass Arslan, at least in terms of whats been presented early on. LOGH actually does have romance in it. IIRC there are at least 5 significant to semi-significant romances in the anime. The themes and issues presented in LOGH are miles away better, as it actually has politics and issues explored within the anime that are very relevant to modern day society, rather than something like "slavery vs crazy murderous religious fanatics" (which is hardly relevant to the modern world, or even interesting tbqh).
tl;dr there is no good reason to fanboy over Arslan Senki and then snub its big brother.
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Wait, what, Arslan is AOTY without doing anything? I mean, it starts off nicely and all but I'll wait until something actually happens other than the setup ;D
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
fantasy is generally trash
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51707 Posts
On May 06 2015 16:48 oneofthem wrote:
fantasy is generally trash
no, trash is usually fantasy.
people abuse a decent setting for a shit story.
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On May 06 2015 16:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:no, trash is usually fantasy. people abuse a decent setting for a shit story.
Wow, this actually makes so much sense.
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