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On June 11 2013 00:58 Hey Sean. wrote:
There's plenty of people who like anime who can discuss it like normal people though. See: People talking about Oreimo not too long ago and people trying to talk about Railgun now.
Who else in the last 10 pages or so has made a post comprising of only a youtube video and a jab? Who then pretended they were aiming for something different after replying to me for a few posts?
He's pretty much a joke. I'm not sure whether he's trolling or not, but pretending to be stupid isn't trolling, that's just being stupid.
He posted a youtube video and asked if anyone wanted to discuss a certain type of shows, what is wrong with that?
You're the one stirring up the drama here, honestly. If we could just stick to anime discussion instead of insults, that would be nice.
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On June 11 2013 00:58 Requizen wrote:
I dream of a time where grown men could just watch animated television shows imported from another country without conflict arising.
That's never going to happen. Half the shows start conflicts themselves. Half the fun of harems is guessing who will win and saying who the worst one is. Sometimes you can get away with less conflict though because the worst one is so unlikable nobody will argue against you.
Nobody here likes Manami, right?
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Your "oreimo discussion" consisted of a one liner saying "this one girl deserves it for losing" followed by a picture of said girl. Then it switched to recommending other shows that are "better harems/romance in the form of kokone/hyouka."
It's quite hypocritical when you say you want discussion but post the exact same type of stuff you call others shit posters for.
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That's just your opinion on Hyouka though. I thought all the mysteries were pretty good except for the film and the pool episode.
I am not exactly a connoisseur of mystery novels but Hyouka is honestly below the par of even LNs. I am only as hostile about it because it pretends to be a novel and can't even deliver even LN level mindless entertainment.
Then again I am reading oreimo 12 atm picturing the troll (I meant author, I really did) wearing 4chan's trollface meme so I can get through it, maybe it isn't the best of time to complain about bad novels.
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I would've carried it on, but I had to give Aers some attention, you know how it is.
Time to watch E3 anyway, pretty much everyone's given up on thinking now and are trying to say Aers was trying to do something other than start an argument. Back in a bit
Edit: Eh maybe. I liked Hyouka in the way that it wasn't.. I guess real mysteries. As in not to solve a crime or anything. I can't really get into it when there's far too many possible outcomes or twist endings. I think Hyouka did a pretty alright job of keeping it fairly simple and interesting, for me at least.
Oreimo's last book is hilarious. Whenever it gets animated in some OVA it's going to be funny. I don't think there's a better word to describe it than that really.
+ Show Spoiler +Especially the Manami/Kirino fight
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@HS: You're basically complaining that a broad discussion thread on a fan community site has it's own community, with the trends and personalities that come with the turf. You can point out all sorts of random shit that doesn't 'contribute to discussions'; all the people that are a part of the community and enjoy it can really say is, "yeah, that exists lol".
You need to get the fuck rid of the idea that serious discussion is more valuable than light-hearted jokes. They each entertain different people at different times, and there's no absolute value in either. If you don't like one of the two you can ignore it or look elsewhere. Trying to impose your preferences as 'right' is just obnoxious to everyone else involved.
At the end of the day everyone here just likes anime; you're the one being elitist by not doing your thing and letting others do theirs. "Cliques" are just people that know and are comfortable talking to each other. Saying their existance ruins threads... iuno about that.
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On June 11 2013 01:10 Hey Sean. wrote:I would've carried it on, but I had to give Aers some attention, you know how it is. Time to watch E3 anyway, pretty much everyone's given up on thinking now and are trying to say Aers was trying to do something other than start an argument. Back in a bit Edit: Eh maybe. I liked Hyouka in the way that it wasn't.. I guess real mysteries. As in not to solve a crime or anything. I can't really get into it when there's far too many possible outcomes or twist endings. I think Hyouka did a pretty alright job of keeping it fairly simple and interesting, for me at least. Oreimo's last book is hilarious. Whenever it gets animated in some OVA it's going to be funny. I don't think there's a better word to describe it than that really. + Show Spoiler +Especially the Manami/Kirino fight
Are you seriously saying that aers is the one who started the argument? Just... wow.
edit: Magistrate-chan is best Mushibugyo. Pretty special eyelashes, though.
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Alright last post for real since IGN is boring.
I didn't say anything about light-hearted jokes. Jokes are fun. Bad posts are just bad.
And the clique argues with itself and dominates the thread topic by talking down anything they don't like without reasons.
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I think people just shouldn't take this thread to seriously, or anime, or the whole internet really. There's no point in worrying about some guy on the internet who said the show you like sucks.
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On June 11 2013 00:54 a176 wrote:
i caught up with aku no hana manga
i dont know why i read it, its do damn depressing
maybe im just waiting for mc to grow a pair (which i hope he has finally done)
still
feels bad man
It is indeed depressing. I feel almost bad for the main. His indecisions and hesitations are also very well portrayed imo.
On June 11 2013 00:54 Elem wrote:
No, they aren't here because most people who aren't on IRC are either ridiculously aggressive (hint: you belong in this group), ridiculously defensive, ask for recs without reading the bloody sticky or rave about how good stuff like Cowboy Bebop, Death Note (and in past year also F/Z) or similar are when they've watched like 10 different series. That or that they've already discussed things new people keep recycling every bloody month.
Also, stop talking as if your oreimo discussion is holy or some shit. Jeez.
F/Z is the best thing that happened at the start of my anime-watching career! If it weren't of that show, who knows if I would be watching that much anime 
On June 11 2013 01:26 Just_a_Moth wrote:
I think people just shouldn't take this thread to seriously, or anime, or the whole internet really. There's no point in worrying about some guy on the internet who said the show you like sucks.
I hate it most when people brush things away by saying : You shouldn't care, its the internet or whatever. Different people have different tastes and also different concerns and beliefs. What isn't important for you might be important to someone else. Just take IRL examples... the most extreme religious people are willing to kill others because they don't believe in their god or insulted their god. To me, that is beyond reasonable since I do not believe in God anyway. But to these people, perhaps their entire life and reason of existence can be summed up to their religion. Attacking it is like attacking them, which can lead to violent reaction.
The biggest sport fans won't stand still while someone insult their team. And sometimes, after games, there would be fights. Again, while I enjoy hockey alot, I'm not willing to get into an argument with someone because their team beat mine.
Now, I'm not saying its right or wrong (well its probably wrong), but it isn't too stretched to say that we can observe the same phenomenon on the internet (granted, no one killed anyone yet for an anime!)... You insult one of my show? I might not care, but expect some people to react. And I don't think its necessarily a bad thing. Some people can be emotionally attached to a show to a point that the show becomes a part of them.
When I was young, I received a blanket and I've kept it until I was like 20 years old. When my parents threw it away, I was extremely mad. To outsiders, that is probably laughable or ridiculous, especially since the blanket was old. But to me, a thing I grew attached to was thrown away -_-
Why can't we all get along!
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The thing though is that mystery doesn't necessarily mean that you need to solve crimes or deal with conspiracies or whatever. The process itself is important, that's where Hyouka really fails to deliver. It isn't really a problem to have small 'mysteries' that's just like a byproduct of daily life only noticed because of random curiosity. As long as the process toward getting an answer can be made to be compelling, the story would have some worth as a mystery far as I am concerned. So in that aspect, vol 4 and 5 were a bit of an improvement. Though that probably has to do more with the fact that vol 4 was a short story compilation and 5 was basically a compilation that took a cute approach for narration. Trying to have that kind of slice of life 'mystery' esque thing while maintaining focus for a full length book just wasn't working out with the bland characters.
The author performs better with his non-series stuff though imo, particularly once he stopped trying to write in that slice of life mystery style.
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Fuck I'm watching Fate/Zero and Rider is so awesome.
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On June 11 2013 01:49 Zhiroo wrote:
Fuck I'm watching Fate/Zero and Rider is so awesome.
Iskandar is biggest bro.
+ Show Spoiler +
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By the way, the mysteries were not the point of Hyouka anyway. I wouldn't even classify it as a mystery anime, at least not primarily.
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On June 11 2013 02:14 maru~ wrote:By the way, the mysteries were not the point of Hyouka anyway. I wouldn't even classify it as a mystery anime, at least not primarily.
Eh, the anime was just kyoani taking a shit source and adding nothing of value to it. They did manage to make it look real pretty though. Nevermind that the author and publish both label the books as mystery though. Not that it'd improve any if you don't think of it as such.
When I don't think of Another's anime adaptation as mystery, but as a comedy, it helped me feel less bad about the whole affair. Doesn't change the fact that it was objectively horrible though.
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On June 11 2013 01:41 Ecael wrote:
The thing though is that mystery doesn't necessarily mean that you need to solve crimes or deal with conspiracies or whatever. The process itself is important, that's where Hyouka really fails to deliver. It isn't really a problem to have small 'mysteries' that's just like a byproduct of daily life only noticed because of random curiosity. As long as the process toward getting an answer can be made to be compelling, the story would have some worth as a mystery far as I am concerned. So in that aspect, vol 4 and 5 were a bit of an improvement. Though that probably has to do more with the fact that vol 4 was a short story compilation and 5 was basically a compilation that took a cute approach for narration. Trying to have that kind of slice of life 'mystery' esque thing while maintaining focus for a full length book just wasn't working out with the bland characters.
The author performs better with his non-series stuff though imo, particularly once he stopped trying to write in that slice of life mystery style.
The mystery thrive on suspense, and the cheap way to do so is throwing in some bodies and conspiracies. It's always more compelling to decode something left by a spy than by your classmate. As sleuthing goes Hyouka is on par with most of the standard mystery stories. But it simply lacks the atmosphere to attract lots of mystery fans.
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lol what did I wake up to? I find it hilarious that of all people, you used aers (happy now aers?) as an example. Sentenal would make more sense but he's actually just a tsundere so after you clear his route, he becomes lovable. Anyway, I think I say this every time a similar argument occurs, but for me personally, if you like trash then whatever (for the record, I can enjoy trash anime too) but once you start claiming how it's good or "the best anime ever," well, you're going to get a ton of shit for that when you can't back it up.
Eca was Another not a comedy? I got so many laughs out of that. Valvrave is giving it a run for its money though.
Nana limited edition cards released for only a week. sigh. it's okay, only 2 more months until Circus and 2 more months after that...
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On June 11 2013 02:39 mofuli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 01:41 Ecael wrote:
The thing though is that mystery doesn't necessarily mean that you need to solve crimes or deal with conspiracies or whatever. The process itself is important, that's where Hyouka really fails to deliver. It isn't really a problem to have small 'mysteries' that's just like a byproduct of daily life only noticed because of random curiosity. As long as the process toward getting an answer can be made to be compelling, the story would have some worth as a mystery far as I am concerned. So in that aspect, vol 4 and 5 were a bit of an improvement. Though that probably has to do more with the fact that vol 4 was a short story compilation and 5 was basically a compilation that took a cute approach for narration. Trying to have that kind of slice of life 'mystery' esque thing while maintaining focus for a full length book just wasn't working out with the bland characters.
The author performs better with his non-series stuff though imo, particularly once he stopped trying to write in that slice of life mystery style. The mystery thrive on suspense, and the cheap way to do so is throwing in some bodies and conspiracies. It's always more compelling to decode something left by a spy than by your classmate. As sleuthing goes Hyouka is on par with most of the standard mystery stories. But it simply lacks the atmosphere to attract lots of mystery fans.
It is kind of odd to get that response after saying that I made my evaluation without any regard for the lack of a dead body, but I can't deny that it might have been a factor. I don't think that the play detective aspect of it hits the par for mysteries though. Thing with mysteries is that there is no real shame in recycling the more than abundant prior works as long as you can put a spin to it, or even make it just a modernized version of something (see BBC's Sherlock). Hyouka can't even do that.
On June 11 2013 02:48 KazeHydra wrote:
Eca was Another not a comedy? I got so many laughs out of that. Valvrave is giving it a run for its money though.
You are right, it was a comedy and that was all there ever was to it. Let me just forget about the source and my life would improve drastically.
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On June 11 2013 02:57 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 02:39 mofuli wrote:On June 11 2013 01:41 Ecael wrote:
The thing though is that mystery doesn't necessarily mean that you need to solve crimes or deal with conspiracies or whatever. The process itself is important, that's where Hyouka really fails to deliver. It isn't really a problem to have small 'mysteries' that's just like a byproduct of daily life only noticed because of random curiosity. As long as the process toward getting an answer can be made to be compelling, the story would have some worth as a mystery far as I am concerned. So in that aspect, vol 4 and 5 were a bit of an improvement. Though that probably has to do more with the fact that vol 4 was a short story compilation and 5 was basically a compilation that took a cute approach for narration. Trying to have that kind of slice of life 'mystery' esque thing while maintaining focus for a full length book just wasn't working out with the bland characters.
The author performs better with his non-series stuff though imo, particularly once he stopped trying to write in that slice of life mystery style. The mystery thrive on suspense, and the cheap way to do so is throwing in some bodies and conspiracies. It's always more compelling to decode something left by a spy than by your classmate. As sleuthing goes Hyouka is on par with most of the standard mystery stories. But it simply lacks the atmosphere to attract lots of mystery fans. It is kind of odd to get that response after saying that I made my evaluation without any regard for the lack of a dead body, but I can't deny that it might have been a factor. I don't think that the play detective aspect of it hits the par for mysteries though. Thing with mysteries is that there is no real shame in recycling the more than abundant prior works as long as you can put a spin to it, or even make it just a modernized version of something (see BBC's Sherlock). Hyouka can't even do that. Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 02:48 KazeHydra wrote:
Eca was Another not a comedy? I got so many laughs out of that. Valvrave is giving it a run for its money though.
You are right, it was a comedy and that was all there ever was to it. Let me just forget about the source and my life would improve drastically.
what's up with all the another jokes? Any case baccano was good and now watching ga-rei zero... interesting interesting...
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So i dont have strenght to browse trough this whole thread. What do You guys would recommend for someone who liked:
Cowboy Bebop
FullMetal Alchemist
Berserk
Vampire Hunter D
Hellsing (kinda)
Ergo Proxy
Something like that...
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