EPTAnime Discussion Thread - Page 1048
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SilverWolfe
Canada173 Posts
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Thratur
Canada917 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On May 01 2011 06:56 SilverWolfe wrote: Have any of you guy seen the show Bungaku Shoujo (Literature Girl)? It's a really sweet show, I think you guys should watch it. You can find torrents of it on Doki Fansubs. You mean the movie? It was okay, not anywhere near my favourites though and a bit too predictable. But I got interested in the story of Campanella - Night on the Galactic Railroad, was it ? | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
I can paraphrase this as "boohoo other people like what I don't like". Popularity never had anything to do with "objective" goodness. More people watch Idols then "The Sopranos". You might have gone to Nihilism college but i tend to disagree that popularity instantly means a show has merit. Generic moe shows, and yes that includes the ooh so loved K-on, are wastes of money. People can like what they like but it doesn't mean it's good. Like i said you might be all about the "everything is good, everything is bad, live and let die brah" but i don't consider those generic moe trash shows to be on the same level as Kaiji. Neither of these examples are actually applicable. If you learn Japanese you can improve your own situation, unlike with the soccer player. You did not give any fansub group money to have them sub for your specific tastes, unlike the case with the car. These sub groups don't have anything to hear from you. In fact, the people behind these groups work their asses off to get a decent sub out and they do it because they like to do what they do. It might surprise the modern anime watcher but the people behind fansubs are not actually human robot slaves that cater to everyone's needs. It's a terribly ungrateful volunteer position. In fact, when you mentioned soccer, you implied that you need not the skill but the understanding in order to be critical. It is clear to me that you have neither. So shut up and learn Japanese. If they love it so much but my words are ooh soo hurtfull then they can just decided to wonder if it's worth it and then not bother. I get shows on my TV for free, doesn't mean i am going to watch them and praise them all just because they are free. If a sub group is doing a bad job like releasing a sub 4-5 days after the show itself then my response isn't to ask where they live so i can send them flowers and say thanks. Just because it's free doesn't mean it's instantly good. It's not ungratefull at all. This idea that just because something is free it's good is just so simplistic and frankly disingenuous. Nobody thinks like that and nobody acts like that. People bash free stuff all the time but when it's something they like they get all high and mighty and say "it's free, love it". It's a false argument because whenever something comes around that you don't like and wich happens to be free, you would just as easily bash it. | ||
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eduh
Portugal63 Posts
most people watch anime cause thats a way for them to entertain themselves, if they find moe shows entertaining thats all that matters. you dont necessarily need to learn a life lesson from watching an anime for it to be worth your time. there is a time for everything. sometimes you feel like watching an intellectually stimulating movie, sometimes you just want to see shit blow up, other times you just want to laugh. and other times you want to see cute stuff. apparently there is more people looking for cute stuff than anything else, but so what? who are you going to blame? | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
On May 01 2011 07:24 Thratur wrote: OreTsuba is finally getting interesting... I was wondering what the hell that show was supposed to be for quite some time. I felt the same way. I had no idea wtf was going on in the previous episodes or how any of it connected. Now it makes a bit more sense. | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
Kinda sucks that the player can't play as Rance. =_= ... or any other country, for that matter. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On May 01 2011 07:54 eduh wrote: most people watch anime cause thats a way for them to entertain themselves, if they find moe shows entertaining thats all that matters. thanks man for writing this I hope zalz reads this and is actually able to understand it even though I fear that he wont. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On May 01 2011 07:54 eduh wrote: what does it mean to be "good" anyway? most people watch anime cause thats a way for them to entertain themselves, if they find moe shows entertaining thats all that matters. you dont necessarily need to learn a life lesson from watching an anime for it to be worth your time. there is a time for everything. sometimes you feel like watching an intellectually stimulating movie, sometimes you just want to see shit blow up, other times you just want to laugh. and other times you want to see cute stuff. apparently there is more people looking for cute stuff than anything else, but so what? who are you going to blame? I'm confused by your post. Are you saying moe shows are good, or that there is no 'good'? The "I watch something because I want to be entertained" line is said by everyone, basically. It doesn't mean that there aren't movies/shows/books/animes that are not elevated in some way within their respective mediums. You're right that not everything has to be intellectually stimulating to be entertaining. Doesn't change the fact that some shows are much better than others. At the end of the day, taste is subjective so why would you even care what others consider 'good'? | ||
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MichaelEU
Netherlands816 Posts
Ok? You might have gone to Nihilism college but i tend to disagree that popularity instantly means a show has merit. Generic moe shows, and yes that includes the ooh so loved K-on, are wastes of money. I cannot comment on Nihilism as I'm not overly familiar with it. I will say that K-on had, at the time, record breaking blu-ray sales. K-on was an enjoyable experience for 40k people who voted in favor for K-on with their wallets. K-on is liked by girls and family persons alike and has the weird ability to open anime up for people who aren't familiar with it. Is it still killing the industry? I think K-on is a very bad example. I did not enjoy K-on immensely, but I recognize how good it is. You recognize how shit it is. There's a reason I put objective in quotation marks. People can like what they like but it doesn't mean it's good. Like i said you might be all about the "everything is good, everything is bad, live and let die brah" but i don't consider those generic moe trash shows to be on the same level as Kaiji. No, I actually said that popularity doesn't have anything to do with "objective" goodness. It means I make a distinction between the two. Do you know how shit the plot in Infinite Stratos is? Do I let that hinder my enjoyment of the show? I would sub Infinite Stratos over Kaiji any time of the day. And I actually learned myself Japanese so I could do that if I wanted to. If they love it so much but my words are ooh soo hurtfull then they can just decided to wonder if it's worth it and then not bother. Where'd you get that from? Not from my post, certainly. I get shows on my TV for free, doesn't mean i am going to watch them and praise them all just because they are free. That's great. You can go to their IRC (they usually have a channel) and point out their mistakes with some constructive criticism. The internet is open and free after all. A handful of sub groups put out v2s or even v3s after mistakes are pointed out to them and it's a more common sight in scanlations. You can even, gasp, recommend one group over another. There's all these different things you can do in order to help the community. Isn't the internet just awesome? If a sub group is doing a bad job like releasing a sub 4-5 days That's funny, I think 4-5 days is rather fast, considering how much work a sub requires and considering it's done by volunteers. It's not ungrateful at all. Yes it is. This idea that just because something is free it's good is just so simplistic and frankly disingenuous. Nobody thinks like that and nobody acts like that. People bash free stuff all the time but when it's something they like they get all high and mighty and say "it's free, love it". It's a false argument because whenever something comes around that you don't like and wich happens to be free, you would just as easily bash it. My point is, complaining won't actually do anything. You can fix things by giving people tips or constructive criticism. You can't make a sub go faster by yelling the groups out. You most certainly can't decide what's good or what's bad or decide what show the groups are going to sub. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
However, you gotta understand that not everyone agrees with us. However insane it might seem to you and me, people watch Lucky Star and K-On!, and enjoy them. I simply try to stay away from discussing them, unless it somehow comes up in a discussion or something. Honestly there really isn't any reason for to just come out and say "Hey, your shitty anime sucks!" or stuff like that. All it accomplishes is starting shit. There used to be a certain bastard in this thread, who in every other post would talk shit about Mecha anime, classify "mecha" as a negative attribute, out of no where say stuff like "every gundam is a rehash, I can't understand how you can watch it, Lucky Star has more story than the 20th gundam rehash (possibly the most retarded comment ever made)", etc. And in return, he earned my undying hatred, and created nothing but shit discussions out of those comments. I'm not innocent in this myself, but at least now I make an effort to not call their shitty moe garbage what it is, unless otherwise provoked. The best discussions in this thread don't come from randomly flaming and insulting anime that you don't like. The best stuff is between people with similar taste about something. | ||
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TempusDESU
Australia87 Posts
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Kaal
Djibouti2585 Posts
If they love it so much but my words are ooh soo hurtfull then they can just decided to wonder if it's worth it and then not bother. I get shows on my TV for free, doesn't mean i am going to watch them and praise them all just because they are free. If a sub group is doing a bad job like releasing a sub 4-5 days after the show itself then my response isn't to ask where they live so i can send them flowers and say thanks. Just because it's free doesn't mean it's instantly good. It's not ungratefull at all. This idea that just because something is free it's good is just so simplistic and frankly disingenuous. Nobody thinks like that and nobody acts like that. People bash free stuff all the time but when it's something they like they get all high and mighty and say "it's free, love it". It's a false argument because whenever something comes around that you don't like and wich happens to be free, you would just as easily bash it. Go screw yourself. Back in my day we subbed whatever the hell we wanted and people were grateful because there weren't many of us. Although out policy at Central Anime has typically been "Screw you, we sub what we want when we want" And people watch us because our subs are quality. 99/100 Day after subs are terrible or crunchy rips (which are terrible), so your argument that having them out 4-5 days being bad is flawed because it usual takes that long to do an actual quality translation, sub and typeset. Also, 9/10 anime fans in this thread hate moeblob. Ignorance = Astounding. | ||
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eduh
Portugal63 Posts
On May 01 2011 09:01 Ocedic wrote: I'm confused by your post. Are you saying moe shows are good, or that there is no 'good'? The "I watch something because I want to be entertained" line is said by everyone, basically. It doesn't mean that there aren't movies/shows/books/animes that are not elevated in some way within their respective mediums. You're right that not everything has to be intellectually stimulating to be entertaining. Doesn't change the fact that some shows are much better than others. At the end of the day, taste is subjective so why would you even care what others consider 'good'? that's my point, trying to qualify something as objectively "good" or "bad", is pointless, | ||
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shadesofkarma
Romania708 Posts
On May 01 2011 10:24 TempusDESU wrote: Hey guys, I just finished Bakemonogatari and Ore no Imouto. I need something new to watch, I don't really care what genre it is, just something that all lovers of anime should watch. If it helps, I really liked Bakemonogatari (Hitagi is a brilliant character) and Ore no Imouto was.. good, but not great. Thanks! inb4 school days I heard Oretsuba is pretty good for this season. Toradora if you like tsunderes. | ||
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Kaal
Djibouti2585 Posts
Toradora if you like tsunderes. SSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Toradora if you like a show that's supposed to be "drama" but has about 10 minutes of drama in the entire show. And Taiga isn't a tsundere. She's a Kugiyama Rie character. | ||
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eduh
Portugal63 Posts
On May 01 2011 10:38 Kaal wrote: SSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Toradora if you like a show that's supposed to be "drama" but has about 10 minutes of drama in the entire show. And Taiga isn't a tsundere. She's a Kugiyama Rie character. I'm pretty sure shows are supposed to be whatever the director and his team envision and ultimately create. its not like they set a 15% drama 85% comedy quota and then after they finish they go " Oh shit, who the fuck forgot to include those last 10% of drama there?"... You might not enjoy what they crafted, but thats a different thing. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On May 01 2011 10:24 TempusDESU wrote: Hey guys, I just finished Bakemonogatari and Ore no Imouto. I need something new to watch, I don't really care what genre it is, just something that all lovers of anime should watch. If it helps, I really liked Bakemonogatari (Hitagi is a brilliant character) and Ore no Imouto was.. good, but not great. Thanks! How about Macross Frontier, pretty fun stuff =D | ||
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Dingotrold
Denmark622 Posts
On May 01 2011 10:24 TempusDESU wrote: Hey guys, I just finished Bakemonogatari and Ore no Imouto. I need something new to watch, I don't really care what genre it is, just something that all lovers of anime should watch. If it helps, I really liked Bakemonogatari (Hitagi is a brilliant character) and Ore no Imouto was.. good, but not great. Thanks! Check out Katanagatari! | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On May 01 2011 10:31 shadesofkarma wrote: inb4 school days I heard Oretsuba is pretty good for this season. Toradora if you like tsunderes. honestly I thought Oretsuba was terrible until I played the VN, THen I started getting it, I was like oh you clever you hahahaha | ||
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