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Erasme
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Sentenal
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On June 24 2014 06:57 Slaughter wrote: You are overstating it of course because obviously not everyone is a "combat god" but there is a well defined difference in level between the two parts of the Grand Line. Oda himself hyped the New World, with the whole "people call the 1st half of the Grand Line paradise compared the the second half". Why do you think the SH needed a collective power up before the started it? Also, Pel's speed has nothing to do with it. Rebecca has observation haki, tell me how any of his machine gun fire (or sword attacks or his swoop attacks) would ever hit her? How fast do you think Rebecca is? Like maybe just give me a general estimate, since now that I actually think about it, its not like we can get an exact speed from a manga. | ||
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Forikorder
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On June 24 2014 07:10 Slaughter wrote: She is a fighter who uses counters and moves that use the opponents own momentum against them. You don't think once Pel comes in for a close attack after his machine guns do nothing that she won't be able to do something? not really, if hes flying hes not relying on gravity so she can redirect him but she cant make him fall over so itd be easy for him to recover no matter how much she throws him and without the moat he would barely be taking damage even if she does make him fall | ||
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Sentenal
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But since you are saying she would easily be able to dodge machinegun fire, are you saying Rebecca is able to travel at like... 1700 MPH? Well maybe that speed is cutting it a little close to be able to "easily" dodge. Maybe she can move at 2500 MPH, that should be sufficient speed to easily dodge a bullet. | ||
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Forikorder
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On June 24 2014 08:04 Sentenal wrote: Her record in the Colosseum is irrelevant as far as how she would fair against bullets, seeing as how guns aren't allowed in the Colosseum, unless I missed something. But since you are saying she would easily be able to dodge machinegun fire, are you saying Rebecca is able to travel at like... 1700 MPH? Well maybe that speed is cutting it a little close to be able to "easily" dodge. Maybe she can move at 2500 MPH, that should be sufficient speed to easily dodge a bullet. your aware that dodging a bullet doesnt require you to outrun it right? | ||
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Sentenal
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On June 24 2014 08:12 Forikorder wrote: your aware that dodging a bullet doesnt require you to outrun it right? It requires being able to get out of the way of something traveling anywhere from like 550 MPH to 2700 MPH (depending on caliber) that also started moving before you did, from a distance of like, what, 300 meters, or closer, as it often is in One Piece? | ||
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Forikorder
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On June 24 2014 08:19 Sentenal wrote: It requires being able to get out of the way of something traveling anywhere from like 550 MPH to 2700 MPH (depending on caliber) that also started moving before you did, from a distance of like, what, 300 meters, or closer, as it often is in One Piece? no it requeires you to no longer be where the bullet is going, which does not mean moving after the bullet it means moving after the shooter can no longer adjust his aim or moving faster then he can accurately aim | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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Either way I don't think using Pell as some sort of metric for the strength of Rebecca is a fruitful topic of conversation either. | ||
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Sentenal
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Slaughter
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As to your point about the characters you brought up, no one BUT thats a different type of movement. Its super fast movement over longer ranges (plus CP9 guys and everyone who does the shave tech move pretty fast but who knows how that ranks because when its animated it looks similarly as fast to the eye). | ||
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Forikorder
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On June 24 2014 09:39 Sentenal wrote: What, do you want me to start talking about cannon balls now? Name one character who is not named Kizaru, Enel, or Kuma, who can naturally move at speeds exceeding a thousand miles per hour. Luffy didn't even come close to that speed when running his ass off at Marineford, not that it would have made a difference with Kizaru there. Hundreds, sure, and thats super-human as hell. But thousands? I don't think you are trying to wrap your head around just how fast a thousand miles per hour really is. You are talking about people regularly going much faster than the speed of sound like its common. noone has to move that fast you just have figure out where the bullet is going and move pre-emptively | ||
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Sentenal
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On June 24 2014 10:06 Slaughter wrote: The point I am trying to make Sent is that we take for granted the massive amount of impossible stuff that characters pull all the time in this series. Sanji kicking cannon balls and Zoro cutting bullets are just examples of feats that are "impossible" but yet get done all the time anyway. You just seem to be zeroing in on dodging bullets and calling bullshit on it when there are equally insane things being done all the time. Rebecca wouldn't even have to move at "retarded speeds" if she has Obs Haki because that is not how it works because you are predicting. Like Luffy when he dodged the shots of the Celestial dragon or dodging lasers of the pacifista. Well this is actually going into semantics territory now, but as I said with Forik earlier, I consider what you are talking about being different from "dodging" a bullet. Do we have any information on the range of Obs Haki? I know Enel was able to use it over an incredibly long distance (partially due to his Devil Fruit), and people like Luffy have been able to sense "presences" in the nearby area (but not knowing exactly where it was), but do we know the range of actually being able to predict attacks coming from a long distance away? Like for example, would a Non-Enel person with Obs Haki have been able to predict Usopp's long range sniping back at the Bridge of Hesitation? | ||
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