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On June 24 2014 03:22 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:19 sc2holar wrote:On June 24 2014 03:10 Forikorder wrote:On June 24 2014 02:45 goody153 wrote:On June 24 2014 02:38 Slaughter wrote:
Na, while I do agree that she has been underestimated by some people, others are drastically overestimating her. you're right she is strong but not even close to luffy/zoro level haxed .. maybe franky level or lower than franky level but definitely not fodder level or shit level useless like how Forikorder is proclaiming it passionately .. since she is surviving new-world and was able to beat almost all her enemies while not really trying to harm them except luffy level enemies of course .. im not saying shes useless im saying shes weaker then every strawhat
crocodile could have killed him on the spot instead of dropping him down the wall.
Croc did kill him on the spot You seriously claim that this undefeated gladiator from the new world is weaker than nami, chopper and usopp? the undefeated gladiator who only took out fodder, and who can only win in the specific situation of the ring (since the water and fish are neccesary for her to KO) and has literally no offensive capability is indeed weaker then Nami chopper and usopp
Did you miss the chapter called "The undefeated woman"? look it up. Rebecca has been fighting in the colusseum for years against other new world gladiators and never been defeated. Did you forget about that?
and explain to me how Nami, Usopp or Chopper would have lasted even 5 seconds in her cell block match. Those you call "Fodder" are probably yonkos compared to Usopp. You are delusional.
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Before the name-calling starts I'd like to remind everyone that e-shouting at each other won't make your arguments look any better. Keep calm guys.
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Why do you keep putting chopper in it 
Chopper is a very strong fighter, he just lacks confidence
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Oh god. S2 vs forik is like a perpetual motion machine.
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On June 24 2014 03:22 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 03:19 sc2holar wrote:On June 24 2014 03:10 Forikorder wrote:On June 24 2014 02:45 goody153 wrote:On June 24 2014 02:38 Slaughter wrote:
Na, while I do agree that she has been underestimated by some people, others are drastically overestimating her. you're right she is strong but not even close to luffy/zoro level haxed .. maybe franky level or lower than franky level but definitely not fodder level or shit level useless like how Forikorder is proclaiming it passionately .. since she is surviving new-world and was able to beat almost all her enemies while not really trying to harm them except luffy level enemies of course .. im not saying shes useless im saying shes weaker then every strawhat
crocodile could have killed him on the spot instead of dropping him down the wall.
Croc did kill him on the spot You seriously claim that this undefeated gladiator from the new world is weaker than nami, chopper and usopp? the undefeated gladiator who only took out fodder, and who can only win in the specific situation of the ring (since the water and fish are neccesary for her to KO) and has literally no offensive capability is indeed weaker then Nami chopper and usopp
what ? weaker than nami and usopp? That is definitely bias now. You are completely blinded on your hate right now. Nami and usopp won't hold in a ring like that.
Sure nami and usopp has their specialties but they are not specialized for combat compared to most in the ring. This ain't fairy tail you know where everyone is shitton strong in combat.
They will die to most decent fighters in the new world if they have to face them 1v1.
Chopper though is strong and a different case but unless you are one of the monster trio 3 in SH crew. Winning the group stages in the Colosseum isn't a guarantee or even close to easy.
I will definitely agree that Rebecca isn't even close to monster trio. Luffy easily dodged her attacks that's a fact but weaker-than-nami level ? that is ridiculous
If you think that nami and usopp are strong. Then you are watching a different one piece.
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I am sure Forikorder is just trolling and just having fun. I hope.
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He has been too consistent to just be trolling or having fun. Its the alternative I am afraid.
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On June 24 2014 04:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
He has been too consistent to just be trolling or having fun. Its the alternative I am afraid.
Nah. He must really like to troll people alot.
Everyone experienced it. Really fun seeing peoples different and defensive reactions.
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Did you miss the chapter called "The undefeated woman"? look it up. Rebecca has been fighting in the colusseum for years against other new world gladiators and never been defeated. Did you forget about that?
and explain to me how Nami, Usopp or Chopper would have lasted even 5 seconds in her cell block match. Those you call "Fodder" are probably yonkos compared to Usopp. You are delusional.
if there has beena single gladiator (aside from right now) that has been even somewhat as strong as a single one of Hodis commanders then id be flabbergasted
Nami and usopp won't hold in a ring like that.
theyd have a tough time thats for sure there not suited for fighting against multiple opponents like Rebecca
but there undoubtable much stronger then her
people seem to forget that Nami took out Mr.1s partner and took out a member of CP9 and has gotten much stronger since then
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hmm strong or not, I don't think I want Rebecca in the crew. She doesn't look that interesting to me. Then again, maybe Oda could and would make her a more awesome character than she is now.
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On June 24 2014 05:18 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +
Did you miss the chapter called "The undefeated woman"? look it up. Rebecca has been fighting in the colusseum for years against other new world gladiators and never been defeated. Did you forget about that?
and explain to me how Nami, Usopp or Chopper would have lasted even 5 seconds in her cell block match. Those you call "Fodder" are probably yonkos compared to Usopp. You are delusional.
if there has beena single gladiator (aside from right now) that has been even somewhat as strong as a single one of Hodis commanders then id be flabbergasted theyd have a tough time thats for sure there not suited for fighting against multiple opponents like Rebecca but there undoubtable much stronger then her people seem to forget that Nami took out Mr.1s partner and took out a member of CP9 and has gotten much stronger since then
Yea and basically everyone in CP9 outside maybe Lucci would get rofl stomped in the New World, whats your point? Same for Mr. 1s partner.
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On June 24 2014 05:24 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 05:18 Forikorder wrote:
Did you miss the chapter called "The undefeated woman"? look it up. Rebecca has been fighting in the colusseum for years against other new world gladiators and never been defeated. Did you forget about that?
and explain to me how Nami, Usopp or Chopper would have lasted even 5 seconds in her cell block match. Those you call "Fodder" are probably yonkos compared to Usopp. You are delusional.
if there has beena single gladiator (aside from right now) that has been even somewhat as strong as a single one of Hodis commanders then id be flabbergasted
Nami and usopp won't hold in a ring like that.
theyd have a tough time thats for sure there not suited for fighting against multiple opponents like Rebecca but there undoubtable much stronger then her people seem to forget that Nami took out Mr.1s partner and took out a member of CP9 and has gotten much stronger since then Yea and basically everyone in CP9 outside maybe Lucci would get rofl stomped in the New World, whats your point? Same for Mr. 1s partner.
im just saying Nami is not weak
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On June 23 2014 14:54 Slaughter wrote:
Wasn't that attack by Hakuba multiple attacks? I don't remember but I thought he unleashed like a shit ton of strikes at once. Also the Haki is what makes me think Pel wouldn't stand a chance vs Rebecca and with Robin it really only depends on if she is strong enough to disable her when she uses her fruit on her.
How would Rebecca even hit someone whose entire thing is flying around in the sky, shooting machineguns at people. Robin dunked him because of her Devil Fruit, and something tells me that Rebecca doesn't have inhumane jumping ability like Sanji.
On June 23 2014 15:52 Incognoto wrote:
You guys are underestimating Rebecca. So hard. She won her fucking block, that in itself is enough to show how strong and fast she is. She won her block. C block was probably the most stacked but winning any block at all is amazing.
Come on, are you trying to tell me that you think Rebecca is stronger than Cavendish now? She won her block, and blocked a single attack from Cavendish, okay. But if you are going to tell me this all makes you think she is a superior fighter to Cavendish, IDK what to say.
On June 24 2014 02:45 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 02:38 Slaughter wrote:
Na, while I do agree that she has been underestimated by some people, others are drastically overestimating her. you're right she is strong but not even close to luffy/zoro level haxed .. maybe franky level or lower than franky level but definitely not fodder level or shit level useless like how Forikorder is proclaiming it passionately .. since she is surviving new-world and was able to beat almost all her enemies while not really trying to harm them except luffy level enemies of course ..
No way she is Franky-level. Franky is practically a modified Pacifista now, who can get inside an even bigger Robot for even more destruction. Rebecca isn't fodder, but people make her out to be some super capable fighter on a whole different level than the other females already in the Crew, namely Robin. And I can't see any situation where Rebecca could possibly defeat Robin. Rebecca fights all her fights parrying/dodging attacks, and tripping people into the water for a ring out. How is that going to work against someone who stands back, and makes their own arms grow out of your body?
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rebecca is probably plot weak atm tho, she needs to look weak so luffy helps her
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How would Pel hurt her? She is too fast and possibly has observation haki, so someone like Pel who probably doesn't even know what haki is probably would just become frustrated. Plus his machine gun thing isn't the only thing he does, he does get in close for attacks (which after pumping enough ammo and missing he likely would try).
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Well, I imagine shooting her with a machine gun would hurt her.
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On June 24 2014 06:12 Slaughter wrote:
How would Pel hurt her? She is too fast and possibly has observation haki, so someone like Pel who probably doesn't even know what haki is probably would just become frustrated. Plus his machine gun thing isn't the only thing he does, he does get in close for attacks (which after pumping enough ammo and missing he likely would try).
your acting like pel moves in slow motion
people need to get over this fallacy that everyone in the new world is some combat god and is automatically stronger then everyone in the first half of the grand line
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You are overstating it of course because obviously not everyone is a "combat god" but there is a well defined difference in level between the two parts of the Grand Line. Oda himself hyped the New World, with the whole "people call the 1st half of the Grand Line paradise compared the the second half". Why do you think the SH needed a collective power up before the started it?
Also, Pel's speed has nothing to do with it. Rebecca has observation haki, tell me how any of his machine gun fire (or sword attacks or his swoop attacks) would ever hit her?
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On June 24 2014 06:57 Slaughter wrote:
You are overstating it of course because obviously not everyone is a "combat god" but there is a well defined difference in level between the two parts of the Grand Line. Oda himself hyped the New World, with the whole "people call the 1st half of the Grand Line paradise compared the the second half". Why do you think the SH needed a collective power up before the started it?
Also, Pel's speed has nothing to do with it. Rebecca has observation haki, tell me how any of his machine gun fire (or sword attacks or his swoop attacks) would ever hit her?
the strongest people are in the new world, but that doesnt mean that strong people are not in the first half just that the strongest of them are in the new world
and the weather in the new world is far worse then whats seen in the first half
Rebecca is strong but it comes down to it she cant beat pel because she jsut has no way to hurt him
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She is a fighter who uses counters and moves that use the opponents own momentum against them. You don't think once Pel comes in for a close attack after his machine guns do nothing that she won't be able to do something?
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