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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 24 2014 05:11 GMT
#16681
I see Rebecca drawing blood for the first time on the guy who killed her mother and laughed about it. Could be wrong though.

Not sure how the Diamante and Trebol are going to go down but I have a feeling Rebecca will take out Diamante purely because she needs to grow and because they have bad blood between them.
maru lover forever
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 05:18:43
June 24 2014 05:14 GMT
#16682
There really isn't any need for "growth" for her as she is going to have a limited appearance. Her back story pretty much filled in everything we need for her as a 1 arc character. Oda didn't need Vivi (or any other person from Alabasta) to fight BW. If anything Kuros will get some kind of revenge by doing something meaningful.
Never Knows Best.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 24 2014 05:20 GMT
#16683
Oh yeah but I'm basing this assumption on Rebecca joining the crew, remember?

Either way, we're all just speculating. What'll happen, will happen.
maru lover forever
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
June 24 2014 08:34 GMT
#16684
oh comm'on man.... what does rebe can uniquely contribute to the crew?
she has nothing! we already have nami for "cuteness" and zoro for "that" fighting skills...
each of the SH crew has their own "uniqueness and purposes"
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 09:09:08
June 24 2014 09:08 GMT
#16685
That's exactly what one might say for Robin.

There are so many parallels with when the rest of the crew joined though:

- Luffy instantly liked her when she bought him lunch, then admired her skills in arena
- Lots of flashback time, many feels
- mother died/dead in front of her (nami & robin)
- spent last 10 years suffering (nami & robin)
- female with nice body (2 girls is arguably imba in crew btw; nami & robin)
- has a dream (may be shattered if Kuros dies?)
- specialisation in obs haki, as well as fighting with a blunt sword
- undefeated gladiator in new world
- trained by legendary kuros himself (e.g. she's very skilled)
- won block D, not because she got lucky
- MIGHT be get wanted by the government due to her helping straw hats
- MIGHT beat one of the executives (i still say she has an unfinished fight with diamante)
- WILL make sanji happy
- PROBABLY has personality quirks to make her fit into crew
- Jimbei + Rebecca make up the two remaining crew members. it makes sense that luffy gets his crew together in the beginning of the new world, since they have a long way to go together.


I'm not saying it's 100% certain she joins, I'm just saying a lot of shit points towards that.
maru lover forever
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 09:14:37
June 24 2014 09:11 GMT
#16686
On June 24 2014 17:34 riyanme wrote:
oh comm'on man.... what does rebe can uniquely contribute to the crew?
she has nothing! we already have nami for "cuteness" and zoro for "that" fighting skills...
each of the SH crew has their own "uniqueness and purposes"

nami lost her "cuteness" after timeskip, btw if you didn't notice. .. or maybe it's just me cause nami has been my favorite character next to zoro in one piece

but after time skip she isn't that interesting anymore for me ..
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
June 24 2014 09:20 GMT
#16687
On June 24 2014 18:08 Incognoto wrote:
That's exactly what one might say for Robin.

There are so many parallels with when the rest of the crew joined though:

- Luffy instantly liked her when she bought him lunch, then admired her skills in arena
- Lots of flashback time, many feels
- mother died/dead in front of her (nami & robin)
- spent last 10 years suffering (nami & robin)
- female with nice body (2 girls is arguably imba in crew btw; nami & robin)
- has a dream (may be shattered if Kuros dies?)
- specialisation in obs haki, as well as fighting with a blunt sword
- undefeated gladiator in new world
- trained by legendary kuros himself (e.g. she's very skilled)
- won block D, not because she got lucky
- MIGHT be get wanted by the government due to her helping straw hats
- MIGHT beat one of the executives (i still say she has an unfinished fight with diamante)
- WILL make sanji happy
- PROBABLY has personality quirks to make her fit into crew
- Jimbei + Rebecca make up the two remaining crew members. it makes sense that luffy gets his crew together in the beginning of the new world, since they have a long way to go together.


I'm not saying it's 100% certain she joins, I'm just saying a lot of shit points towards that.

What ?? i was about to agree on everything but dude she is minor ..

SH still lack logia user though and since Sabo got the fruit idk about how she is gonna get a fruit if she was a logia candidate

they also lack someone who is motivated by anger/revenge maybe rebecca will become that crewmember .. but Oda needs to make her damn interesting then since it's pointless for her to be in SH if she ain't interesting .. she still has potential to become a interesting one aside from her quirks that she currently has .. it's up to Oda how he does it .. of course assuming she becomes a member of the crew.

I have the feeling that it will motivated by revenge if ever she joins but knowing one piece I don't see it happening
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
June 24 2014 09:28 GMT
#16688
Yeah I don't see it happening either.
No Rebecca 2014/2015/2xxx plox
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 24 2014 10:03 GMT
#16689
Sanji isn't looking for sex he'll just be happy to have another beautiful lady on board.

maru lover forever
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
June 24 2014 12:28 GMT
#16690
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
June 24 2014 12:53 GMT
#16691
On June 24 2014 21:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.


actually if Oda is actually shipping her to be a SH crew member i think when she tried to kill luffy and stupidly hit trevor with her blunt blade is step 1 in her actually attacking people. For her character to hate harming people we can view that as character development unless you expect all character development needed to be said by a character or the character itself then that is just lame.

development on her character and fighting style is not impossible to be honest but let's see if that is what Oda wants .. you just hate rebecca if you think it's not possible .. it's like saying robin is never had a chance to become part of SH during crocodile arc and she became one. Of course it took time for her to be part of the crew but if that happened then it's not impossible for Oda to pull something off.

Of course right now it doesn't look like Rebecca is gonna become SH but who knew that robin will become one before she just suddenly butt in the ship so anything can happen. It's unlikely but not impossible guys.
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riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
June 24 2014 14:42 GMT
#16692
On June 24 2014 21:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.


rebe is like vivi here....
vivi = alabasta
rebe = you know where...

debating whether or not she could beat Pel is SIMPLY RIDICULOUS...
raise your pitchfork guys~ who the hell started that debate?

forgive me but rebe is useless... more of a liablility than an asset...
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 14:54:08
June 24 2014 14:52 GMT
#16693
On June 24 2014 23:42 riyanme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 21:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.


rebe is like vivi here....
vivi = alabasta
rebe = you know where...

debating whether or not she could beat Pel is SIMPLY RIDICULOUS...
raise your pitchfork guys~ who the hell started that debate?

forgive me but rebe is useless... more of a liablility than an asset...

from what i remember some guy started saying "REBECCA 2014" (probably Incognoto idk already forgot) then Forikorder opposes the idea and begins preaching on how bad rebecca is. Making you wonder why he hates rebecca to the bones or maybe he is just trolling. And thus the civil war began.

Still better than "enel is stronger than everyone" talk.
this is a quote
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 24 2014 14:57 GMT
#16694
On June 24 2014 23:52 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 23:42 riyanme wrote:
On June 24 2014 21:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.


rebe is like vivi here....
vivi = alabasta
rebe = you know where...

debating whether or not she could beat Pel is SIMPLY RIDICULOUS...
raise your pitchfork guys~ who the hell started that debate?

forgive me but rebe is useless... more of a liablility than an asset...

from what i remember some guy started saying "REBECCA 2014" (probably Incognoto idk already forgot) then Forikorder opposes the idea and begins preaching on how bad rebecca is. Making you wonder why he hates rebecca to the bones or maybe he is just trolling. And thus the civil war began.

Still better than "enel is stronger than everyone" talk.

thats not how it started, someone was saying that rebecca could easily beat nami and robin both at the same time, then i went on to explain how rebecca could beat neither of them one on one then people went on to diss robins strength which led to her beating pel then to pel VS rebecca

ive never said rebecca is weak but i wouldnt say shes very strong
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 01:50:23
June 24 2014 15:04 GMT
#16695
On June 24 2014 07:16 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 07:10 Slaughter wrote:
She is a fighter who uses counters and moves that use the opponents own momentum against them. You don't think once Pel comes in for a close attack after his machine guns do nothing that she won't be able to do something?

not really, if hes flying hes not relying on gravity so she can redirect him but she cant make him fall over so itd be easy for him to recover no matter how much she throws him

and without the moat he would barely be taking damage even if she does make him fall


REBE 2014

Fast enough to easily dodge Pel's machine gun fire - slaughter
and without the moat he would barely be taking damage even if she does make him fall - forikorder
Maybe she can move at 2500 MPH, that should be sufficient speed to easily dodge a bullet. - sentenal
She DEFEATED Cavendish - tmg26
Rebeccas victory had nothing to do with luck - sc2holar

edit: finally found the instigator of rebe vs pel (slaughter)
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 24 2014 15:16 GMT
#16696
I don't care who the next straw hat crew member is as long as she is female.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 15:39:54
June 24 2014 15:26 GMT
#16697
On June 25 2014 00:16 JustPassingBy wrote:
I don't care who the next straw hat crew member is as long as she is female.

tough luck kid.

We are probably gonna get another pervert. You know the crew can't get enough perverts. And it seems like everyone loves to ship perverts so much based from the opinions that we are probably gonna get another one.

I still have no idea why people would prefer likes of Kinemon. Honestly he's type of character is a bit overused right now which already exist along with franky,brook and sanji. I used to enjoy sanji before and also franky since he was the only recurring admitted pervert next to brook but now since they are all perverts and the jokes are a bit overused i no longer enjoy it. Hell sanji was so much better before timeskip when he was still a "dumb gentleman" mode rather than the perverted personality that we see in so many damn anime.

You will have a better luck with FT than one piece.

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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 15:53:25
June 24 2014 15:46 GMT
#16698
On June 24 2014 23:57 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 23:52 goody153 wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:42 riyanme wrote:
On June 24 2014 21:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.


rebe is like vivi here....
vivi = alabasta
rebe = you know where...

debating whether or not she could beat Pel is SIMPLY RIDICULOUS...
raise your pitchfork guys~ who the hell started that debate?

forgive me but rebe is useless... more of a liablility than an asset...

from what i remember some guy started saying "REBECCA 2014" (probably Incognoto idk already forgot) then Forikorder opposes the idea and begins preaching on how bad rebecca is. Making you wonder why he hates rebecca to the bones or maybe he is just trolling. And thus the civil war began.

Still better than "enel is stronger than everyone" talk.

thats not how it started, someone was saying that rebecca could easily beat nami and robin both at the same time, then i went on to explain how rebecca could beat neither of them one on one then people went on to diss robins strength which led to her beating pel then to pel VS rebecca

ive never said rebecca is weak but i wouldnt say shes very strong

I still don't get how you think that nami is strong. Nami is smart and wins in different ways but combat wise hell no. At least she can beat fodders easily right now but stronger than rebecca is really laughable.

Robin sure probably, she used to a assassin and has trained under dragon during timeskip.

I really think you just hate rebecca since nami is no way strong and Usopp is also no excuse as well. Oda also once said in some SBS that usopp will always be the weakest SH crew, it was for a balance of power something like that.

Also go read your past posts if you think that "ive never said rebecca is weak".
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 24 2014 15:47 GMT
#16699
On June 25 2014 00:26 goody153 wrote:
You will have a better luck with FT than one piece.



Hah, what? I hate FT because the author seems to draw whatever comes into his mind. The plot is too crude and shows no sign of long term planning. <.<
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
June 24 2014 15:52 GMT
#16700
On June 25 2014 00:47 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 00:26 goody153 wrote:
You will have a better luck with FT than one piece.



Hah, what? I hate FT because the author seems to draw whatever comes into his mind. The plot is too crude and shows no sign of long term planning. <.<

Then you have no choice but to accept that one piece won't get enough perverts lol. The next SH member will probably be another pervert if ever they get another one.
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