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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 24 2014 15:58 GMT
#16701
On June 25 2014 00:46 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 23:57 Forikorder wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:52 goody153 wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:42 riyanme wrote:
On June 24 2014 21:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.


rebe is like vivi here....
vivi = alabasta
rebe = you know where...

debating whether or not she could beat Pel is SIMPLY RIDICULOUS...
raise your pitchfork guys~ who the hell started that debate?

forgive me but rebe is useless... more of a liablility than an asset...

from what i remember some guy started saying "REBECCA 2014" (probably Incognoto idk already forgot) then Forikorder opposes the idea and begins preaching on how bad rebecca is. Making you wonder why he hates rebecca to the bones or maybe he is just trolling. And thus the civil war began.

Still better than "enel is stronger than everyone" talk.

thats not how it started, someone was saying that rebecca could easily beat nami and robin both at the same time, then i went on to explain how rebecca could beat neither of them one on one then people went on to diss robins strength which led to her beating pel then to pel VS rebecca

ive never said rebecca is weak but i wouldnt say shes very strong

I still don't get how you think that nami is strong. Nami is smart and wins in different ways but combat wise hell no. At least she can beat fodders easily right now but stronger than rebecca is really laughable.

Robin sure probably, she used to a assassin and has trained under dragon during timeskip.

I really think you just hate rebecca since nami is no way strong and Usopp is also no excuse as well. Oda also once said in some SBS that usopp will always be the weakest SH crew, it was for a balance of power something like that.

Also go read your past posts if you think that "ive never said rebecca is weak".

i just cant understand why you think Nami is strong despite all the evidence to the contrary

shes been robbing pirates since she was a little girl, she beat Mr.1s partner, she beat a member of the CP9 she took down a dragon, she mowed down fodder easily in fishman island

shes not super strong but shes stronger then Rebecca for sure
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 16:13:11
June 24 2014 16:12 GMT
#16702
On June 25 2014 00:58 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 00:46 goody153 wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:57 Forikorder wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:52 goody153 wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:42 riyanme wrote:
On June 24 2014 21:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.


rebe is like vivi here....
vivi = alabasta
rebe = you know where...

debating whether or not she could beat Pel is SIMPLY RIDICULOUS...
raise your pitchfork guys~ who the hell started that debate?

forgive me but rebe is useless... more of a liablility than an asset...

from what i remember some guy started saying "REBECCA 2014" (probably Incognoto idk already forgot) then Forikorder opposes the idea and begins preaching on how bad rebecca is. Making you wonder why he hates rebecca to the bones or maybe he is just trolling. And thus the civil war began.

Still better than "enel is stronger than everyone" talk.

thats not how it started, someone was saying that rebecca could easily beat nami and robin both at the same time, then i went on to explain how rebecca could beat neither of them one on one then people went on to diss robins strength which led to her beating pel then to pel VS rebecca

ive never said rebecca is weak but i wouldnt say shes very strong

I still don't get how you think that nami is strong. Nami is smart and wins in different ways but combat wise hell no. At least she can beat fodders easily right now but stronger than rebecca is really laughable.

Robin sure probably, she used to a assassin and has trained under dragon during timeskip.

I really think you just hate rebecca since nami is no way strong and Usopp is also no excuse as well. Oda also once said in some SBS that usopp will always be the weakest SH crew, it was for a balance of power something like that.

Also go read your past posts if you think that "ive never said rebecca is weak".

i just cant understand why you think Nami is strong despite all the evidence to the contrary

shes been robbing pirates since she was a little girl, she beat Mr.1s partner, she beat a member of the CP9 she took down a dragon, she mowed down fodder easily in fishman island

shes not super strong but shes stronger then Rebecca for sure

robbing pirates is different from fighting them .. you can rob someone without fighting them

and rebecca is strong despite surviving and fighting her entire life inside a Colosseum in the new world? and nami is infinite times better just because she beat 2 people during her grandline adventure and that makes her better than surviving many years in a arena specifically made for people to try and kill each other ?

are you seriously saying that nami will easily do a better job than rebecca in the arena ? WTF ?

i don't even .. whatever if you were to say franky/brook/robin/chopper is stronger than rebecca then it would be logical but nami ? seriously ?
this is a quote
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 24 2014 16:20 GMT
#16703
On June 25 2014 01:12 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 00:58 Forikorder wrote:
On June 25 2014 00:46 goody153 wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:57 Forikorder wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:52 goody153 wrote:
On June 24 2014 23:42 riyanme wrote:
On June 24 2014 21:28 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I personally have a hard time seeing how Rebecca will be able to defeat any strong opponents outside of the limited scope of gladiatorial combat. With her purely defensive style "teach me to fight without hurting anybody," she needs the externally imposed structure of the arena in order for her foes to be beaten. She'd be great at defending the ship, or delaying a strong enemy, but without the rules and regulation of the Colosseum, how will she finish her fights? How will the opponents be defeated, fatigue?

I'm not saying she's not strong, but her strength is such that the best case scenario for any worthwhile opponent outside of the ring is merely a draw. I suppose she could win by chance and interactions with the environment, but we already have a character already who wins by freak chances: Usopp. How does the "#Rebecca2013" crowd view this? It seems there's basically 3 options:

1. she doesn't really "win" fights, she just delays or defends weak targets until someone else can finish them off
2. she wins fights through her defensive style and some chance/interaction with the environment
3. she has a radical change in her style and actually learns some offensive moves

None of these sound like good options to me, so I doubt she'll join the crew, but discussing it like this is more interesting to me than debating whether or not she could beat Pel.
+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously, how did THAT debate get started, sheesh.


rebe is like vivi here....
vivi = alabasta
rebe = you know where...

debating whether or not she could beat Pel is SIMPLY RIDICULOUS...
raise your pitchfork guys~ who the hell started that debate?

forgive me but rebe is useless... more of a liablility than an asset...

from what i remember some guy started saying "REBECCA 2014" (probably Incognoto idk already forgot) then Forikorder opposes the idea and begins preaching on how bad rebecca is. Making you wonder why he hates rebecca to the bones or maybe he is just trolling. And thus the civil war began.

Still better than "enel is stronger than everyone" talk.

thats not how it started, someone was saying that rebecca could easily beat nami and robin both at the same time, then i went on to explain how rebecca could beat neither of them one on one then people went on to diss robins strength which led to her beating pel then to pel VS rebecca

ive never said rebecca is weak but i wouldnt say shes very strong

I still don't get how you think that nami is strong. Nami is smart and wins in different ways but combat wise hell no. At least she can beat fodders easily right now but stronger than rebecca is really laughable.

Robin sure probably, she used to a assassin and has trained under dragon during timeskip.

I really think you just hate rebecca since nami is no way strong and Usopp is also no excuse as well. Oda also once said in some SBS that usopp will always be the weakest SH crew, it was for a balance of power something like that.

Also go read your past posts if you think that "ive never said rebecca is weak".

i just cant understand why you think Nami is strong despite all the evidence to the contrary

shes been robbing pirates since she was a little girl, she beat Mr.1s partner, she beat a member of the CP9 she took down a dragon, she mowed down fodder easily in fishman island

shes not super strong but shes stronger then Rebecca for sure

robbing pirates is different from fighting them .. you can rob someone without fighting them

and rebecca is strong despite surviving and fighting her entire life inside a Colosseum in the new world? and nami is infinite times better just because she beat 2 people during her grandline adventure and that makes her better than surviving many years in a arena specifically made for people to try and kill each other ?

are you seriously saying that nami will easily do a better job than rebecca in the arena ? WTF ?

i don't even .. whatever if you were to say franky/brook/robin/chopper is stronger than rebecca then it would be logical but nami ? seriously ?

cant rob all of them without fighting them

if Nami had been in Rebecca shoes she would have done a better job, he would have actually succeeded in hurting Diamante or finding some way out of the situation instead of being some crying little girl who can only wait to be saved
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2553 Posts
June 24 2014 16:30 GMT
#16704
You know I actually like Viola a lot more than rebecca and wouldn't mind if she joined. However it's likley never going to happen because 1. She reciprocates Sanji's affection and Sanji's character is all about getting rejected. 2. She has a ridiculously overpowered fruit that can see everything for miles and act as a lie detector. 3. Shes the god damn princess of Dressrosa. Next in line for the throne after her already old father. So I'd love to have her aboard at least for a while but chances are she's not coming.
####
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 18:07:04
June 24 2014 16:53 GMT
#16705
On June 25 2014 00:16 JustPassingBy wrote:
I don't care who the next straw hat crew member is as long as she is female.


looking for new SH crew who is.... female... pervert...?
an okama perhaps...

every great pirate leader has one.... dragon, croco... and maybe more~

Poll: Nami vs Rebe, who wins

whatever! (15)
 
50%

nami (10)
 
33%

rebe (5)
 
17%

30 total votes

Your vote: Nami vs Rebe, who wins

(Vote): nami
(Vote): rebe
(Vote): whatever!



my vote goes to nami....
nami isn't physically skilled unlike rebe but i believe/preferred brain wins over brawls...
-
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
June 24 2014 18:05 GMT
#16706
Nami wouldn't want to fight, she'd just try and run away if she thought others were stronger lol. Only a moron (or God Ussop) fights a battle they think they'll lose.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44272 Posts
June 24 2014 18:09 GMT
#16707
On June 25 2014 03:05 killa_robot wrote:
Nami wouldn't want to fight, she'd just try and run away if she thought others were stronger lol. Only a moron (or God Ussop) fights a battle they think they'll lose.

Don't you dare commit blasphemy on God Usopp ! God Usopp never loses a battle. He is inevitable.
this is a quote
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 22:34:34
June 24 2014 22:33 GMT
#16708
On June 24 2014 18:08 Incognoto wrote:
That's exactly what one might say for Robin.

There are so many parallels with when the rest of the crew joined though:

- Luffy instantly liked her when she bought him lunch, then admired her skills in arena
- Lots of flashback time, many feels
- mother died/dead in front of her (nami & robin)
- spent last 10 years suffering (nami & robin)
- female with nice body (2 girls is arguably imba in crew btw; nami & robin)
- has a dream (may be shattered if Kuros dies?)
- specialisation in obs haki, as well as fighting with a blunt sword
- undefeated gladiator in new world
- trained by legendary kuros himself (e.g. she's very skilled)
- won block D, not because she got lucky
- MIGHT be get wanted by the government due to her helping straw hats
- MIGHT beat one of the executives (i still say she has an unfinished fight with diamante)
- WILL make sanji happy
- PROBABLY has personality quirks to make her fit into crew
- Jimbei + Rebecca make up the two remaining crew members. it makes sense that luffy gets his crew together in the beginning of the new world, since they have a long way to go together.


I'm not saying it's 100% certain she joins, I'm just saying a lot of shit points towards that.

You realize that at least half of that list aren't parallels at all, right? Like who the hell is "being trained by Kyrios" or "undefeated gladiator" parallel in the crew? And most of the ones that aren't even parallels aren't even reasons she might join the crew as well. Why the hell would "winning Block D, not because she got lucky" be a reason to join the crew?

Additionally, the very idea of Rebecca defeating Diamante, someone who is probably on the same level as Pica (who will probably give Zoro a hard time), is absolutely ridiculous.


And while Rebecca is probably "stronger" than Nami, I'm pretty sure Nami would win in a fight due to brains and her magic zappy stick.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 25 2014 03:04 GMT
#16709
On June 25 2014 07:33 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 18:08 Incognoto wrote:
That's exactly what one might say for Robin.

There are so many parallels with when the rest of the crew joined though:

- Luffy instantly liked her when she bought him lunch, then admired her skills in arena
- Lots of flashback time, many feels
- mother died/dead in front of her (nami & robin)
- spent last 10 years suffering (nami & robin)
- female with nice body (2 girls is arguably imba in crew btw; nami & robin)
- has a dream (may be shattered if Kuros dies?)
- specialisation in obs haki, as well as fighting with a blunt sword
- undefeated gladiator in new world
- trained by legendary kuros himself (e.g. she's very skilled)
- won block D, not because she got lucky
- MIGHT be get wanted by the government due to her helping straw hats
- MIGHT beat one of the executives (i still say she has an unfinished fight with diamante)
- WILL make sanji happy
- PROBABLY has personality quirks to make her fit into crew
- Jimbei + Rebecca make up the two remaining crew members. it makes sense that luffy gets his crew together in the beginning of the new world, since they have a long way to go together.


I'm not saying it's 100% certain she joins, I'm just saying a lot of shit points towards that.

You realize that at least half of that list aren't parallels at all, right? Like who the hell is "being trained by Kyrios" or "undefeated gladiator" parallel in the crew? And most of the ones that aren't even parallels aren't even reasons she might join the crew as well. Why the hell would "winning Block D, not because she got lucky" be a reason to join the crew?

Additionally, the very idea of Rebecca defeating Diamante, someone who is probably on the same level as Pica (who will probably give Zoro a hard time), is absolutely ridiculous.


And while Rebecca is probably "stronger" than Nami, I'm pretty sure Nami would win in a fight due to brains and her magic zappy stick.

and that rebecca is incapable of actually attacking kinda a big handicap
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44272 Posts
June 25 2014 04:14 GMT
#16710
On June 25 2014 12:04 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:33 Sentenal wrote:
On June 24 2014 18:08 Incognoto wrote:
That's exactly what one might say for Robin.

There are so many parallels with when the rest of the crew joined though:

- Luffy instantly liked her when she bought him lunch, then admired her skills in arena
- Lots of flashback time, many feels
- mother died/dead in front of her (nami & robin)
- spent last 10 years suffering (nami & robin)
- female with nice body (2 girls is arguably imba in crew btw; nami & robin)
- has a dream (may be shattered if Kuros dies?)
- specialisation in obs haki, as well as fighting with a blunt sword
- undefeated gladiator in new world
- trained by legendary kuros himself (e.g. she's very skilled)
- won block D, not because she got lucky
- MIGHT be get wanted by the government due to her helping straw hats
- MIGHT beat one of the executives (i still say she has an unfinished fight with diamante)
- WILL make sanji happy
- PROBABLY has personality quirks to make her fit into crew
- Jimbei + Rebecca make up the two remaining crew members. it makes sense that luffy gets his crew together in the beginning of the new world, since they have a long way to go together.


I'm not saying it's 100% certain she joins, I'm just saying a lot of shit points towards that.

You realize that at least half of that list aren't parallels at all, right? Like who the hell is "being trained by Kyrios" or "undefeated gladiator" parallel in the crew? And most of the ones that aren't even parallels aren't even reasons she might join the crew as well. Why the hell would "winning Block D, not because she got lucky" be a reason to join the crew?

Additionally, the very idea of Rebecca defeating Diamante, someone who is probably on the same level as Pica (who will probably give Zoro a hard time), is absolutely ridiculous.


And while Rebecca is probably "stronger" than Nami, I'm pretty sure Nami would win in a fight due to brains and her magic zappy stick.

and that rebecca is incapable of actually attacking kinda a big handicap

That is still her not trying to harm enemies and despite that still beats her enemies . How do you think will it go when she will actually start attacking ?
this is a quote
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 25 2014 04:24 GMT
#16711
On June 25 2014 13:14 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 12:04 Forikorder wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:33 Sentenal wrote:
On June 24 2014 18:08 Incognoto wrote:
That's exactly what one might say for Robin.

There are so many parallels with when the rest of the crew joined though:

- Luffy instantly liked her when she bought him lunch, then admired her skills in arena
- Lots of flashback time, many feels
- mother died/dead in front of her (nami & robin)
- spent last 10 years suffering (nami & robin)
- female with nice body (2 girls is arguably imba in crew btw; nami & robin)
- has a dream (may be shattered if Kuros dies?)
- specialisation in obs haki, as well as fighting with a blunt sword
- undefeated gladiator in new world
- trained by legendary kuros himself (e.g. she's very skilled)
- won block D, not because she got lucky
- MIGHT be get wanted by the government due to her helping straw hats
- MIGHT beat one of the executives (i still say she has an unfinished fight with diamante)
- WILL make sanji happy
- PROBABLY has personality quirks to make her fit into crew
- Jimbei + Rebecca make up the two remaining crew members. it makes sense that luffy gets his crew together in the beginning of the new world, since they have a long way to go together.


I'm not saying it's 100% certain she joins, I'm just saying a lot of shit points towards that.

You realize that at least half of that list aren't parallels at all, right? Like who the hell is "being trained by Kyrios" or "undefeated gladiator" parallel in the crew? And most of the ones that aren't even parallels aren't even reasons she might join the crew as well. Why the hell would "winning Block D, not because she got lucky" be a reason to join the crew?

Additionally, the very idea of Rebecca defeating Diamante, someone who is probably on the same level as Pica (who will probably give Zoro a hard time), is absolutely ridiculous.


And while Rebecca is probably "stronger" than Nami, I'm pretty sure Nami would win in a fight due to brains and her magic zappy stick.

and that rebecca is incapable of actually attacking kinda a big handicap

That is still her not trying to harm enemies and despite that still beats her enemies . How do you think will it go when she will actually start attacking ?

im guessing as well as it went agaisnt Diamante
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
June 25 2014 04:36 GMT
#16712
Today is manga release day , right?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 25 2014 04:38 GMT
#16713
On June 25 2014 13:14 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 12:04 Forikorder wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:33 Sentenal wrote:
On June 24 2014 18:08 Incognoto wrote:
That's exactly what one might say for Robin.

There are so many parallels with when the rest of the crew joined though:

- Luffy instantly liked her when she bought him lunch, then admired her skills in arena
- Lots of flashback time, many feels
- mother died/dead in front of her (nami & robin)
- spent last 10 years suffering (nami & robin)
- female with nice body (2 girls is arguably imba in crew btw; nami & robin)
- has a dream (may be shattered if Kuros dies?)
- specialisation in obs haki, as well as fighting with a blunt sword
- undefeated gladiator in new world
- trained by legendary kuros himself (e.g. she's very skilled)
- won block D, not because she got lucky
- MIGHT be get wanted by the government due to her helping straw hats
- MIGHT beat one of the executives (i still say she has an unfinished fight with diamante)
- WILL make sanji happy
- PROBABLY has personality quirks to make her fit into crew
- Jimbei + Rebecca make up the two remaining crew members. it makes sense that luffy gets his crew together in the beginning of the new world, since they have a long way to go together.


I'm not saying it's 100% certain she joins, I'm just saying a lot of shit points towards that.

You realize that at least half of that list aren't parallels at all, right? Like who the hell is "being trained by Kyrios" or "undefeated gladiator" parallel in the crew? And most of the ones that aren't even parallels aren't even reasons she might join the crew as well. Why the hell would "winning Block D, not because she got lucky" be a reason to join the crew?

Additionally, the very idea of Rebecca defeating Diamante, someone who is probably on the same level as Pica (who will probably give Zoro a hard time), is absolutely ridiculous.


And while Rebecca is probably "stronger" than Nami, I'm pretty sure Nami would win in a fight due to brains and her magic zappy stick.

and that rebecca is incapable of actually attacking kinda a big handicap

That is still her not trying to harm enemies and despite that still beats her enemies . How do you think will it go when she will actually start attacking ?

Who knows. Being a good dodgeer doesn't make one a good attacker, though.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44272 Posts
June 25 2014 04:39 GMT
#16714
more importantly when is flamewheel's chapter gonna come out ?

i wanna see some sick SABO moves.
this is a quote
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 25 2014 05:41 GMT
#16715
On June 24 2014 08:12 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:04 Sentenal wrote:
Her record in the Colosseum is irrelevant as far as how she would fair against bullets, seeing as how guns aren't allowed in the Colosseum, unless I missed something.

But since you are saying she would easily be able to dodge machinegun fire, are you saying Rebecca is able to travel at like... 1700 MPH? Well maybe that speed is cutting it a little close to be able to "easily" dodge. Maybe she can move at 2500 MPH, that should be sufficient speed to easily dodge a bullet.

your aware that dodging a bullet doesnt require you to outrun it right?

Apply water to burned area, sentenal
About bullet dodging: Watch or remember Matrix. Neo didn't break the sound barrier either.

On June 24 2014 14:11 Incognoto wrote:
I see Rebecca drawing blood for the first time on the guy who killed her mother and laughed about it. Could be wrong though.

Not sure how the Diamante and Trebol are going to go down but I have a feeling Rebecca will take out Diamante purely because she needs to grow and because they have bad blood between them.

That's about the same statement as "Nami should have beat Arlong because they had bad blood between them and she needed to grow"

Guys, really, why are you rebecca fans so difficult?
Just because someone doesn't find Rebecca interesting or doesn't think she's strong; that is not the same as hating Rebecca.
Speaking for only myself, I hate people who rave about rebecca. You are not the majority. You are just loud.



Now about the last chapter: Who else is weirded out by Pika rearranging the landscape so there's a 4 level battle tower with Doflamingo on top? I guess it works.....
I would prefer all of the people would be fighting in the streets of Dressrosa, with Pika running away with the castle. The main horde chasing after the castle and Pika, with our characters getting caught up in fights with the doflamingo family executives. One after the other split away from the chase until only Law, Luffy and a few select other characters remain, Zorro unknowingly ends up in front of Pika and intercepts him.
Would be a much more natural flow of events.
Basically I don't like having a random ass "now there is a structure with definite levels you must climb with opponents getting stronger on the higher levels"
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 25 2014 05:50 GMT
#16716
Go ahead and hate, ya hater. Nami was weak back then, Rebecca won her block. She has the potential to beat Diamante, feel free to disagree. It's a stupid reason to hate the people who like Rebecca and would like to see her join though. I wouldn't be surprised to see her beat up Diamante, as unlikely as that is. It's something that could happen. Lots of people are calling Rebecca weak, it's not as if it's illegal for me to argue as to why she isn't weak. She won her block for crying out loud. I still consider her possibly joining since we haven't had a human, non-devil fruit user join since Sanji (or Nami). That would more unique than another weirdo.

One of the things I like about this arc by the way is DD's exploitation of the "dark" inside of humans. I think it's actually a real thing. People lust for blood when they see it etc. In the same way that people all have their "good" in them. Dressrosa under Riku and Dressrosa under DD aren't the same thing, Dressrosa as of right now has a very dark side which is maintained by DD purposely. That's one of the reasons why the revolutionaries are there.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 25 2014 05:58 GMT
#16717
Look, maybe if she won her block in some impressive way, people would agree she might have more than an ice-cube's chance in hell at beating Diamante. But as it stands, the way she won her block was Cavendish went Hakuba-mode, demolished almost every single person in the block in a single attack, and Rebecca managed to be the only person to withstand the blow (although barely, she struggled to even get back up afterwards). And Cavendish himself then fell asleep. So sure, she won her block. Sure, she blocked Hakuba's attack, and blocking that attack wasn't luck. But everything else surrounding that situation was, and she clearly wasn't the strongest fighter in her block.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 25 2014 06:06 GMT
#16718
On June 25 2014 14:41 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:12 Forikorder wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:04 Sentenal wrote:
Her record in the Colosseum is irrelevant as far as how she would fair against bullets, seeing as how guns aren't allowed in the Colosseum, unless I missed something.

But since you are saying she would easily be able to dodge machinegun fire, are you saying Rebecca is able to travel at like... 1700 MPH? Well maybe that speed is cutting it a little close to be able to "easily" dodge. Maybe she can move at 2500 MPH, that should be sufficient speed to easily dodge a bullet.

your aware that dodging a bullet doesnt require you to outrun it right?

Apply water to burned area, sentenal
About bullet dodging: Watch or remember Matrix. Neo didn't break the sound barrier either.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 14:11 Incognoto wrote:
I see Rebecca drawing blood for the first time on the guy who killed her mother and laughed about it. Could be wrong though.

Not sure how the Diamante and Trebol are going to go down but I have a feeling Rebecca will take out Diamante purely because she needs to grow and because they have bad blood between them.

That's about the same statement as "Nami should have beat Arlong because they had bad blood between them and she needed to grow"

Guys, really, why are you rebecca fans so difficult?
Just because someone doesn't find Rebecca interesting or doesn't think she's strong; that is not the same as hating Rebecca.
Speaking for only myself, I hate people who rave about rebecca. You are not the majority. You are just loud.




Now about the last chapter: Who else is weirded out by Pika rearranging the landscape so there's a 4 level battle tower with Doflamingo on top? I guess it works.....
I would prefer all of the people would be fighting in the streets of Dressrosa, with Pika running away with the castle. The main horde chasing after the castle and Pika, with our characters getting caught up in fights with the doflamingo family executives. One after the other split away from the chase until only Law, Luffy and a few select other characters remain, Zorro unknowingly ends up in front of Pika and intercepts him.
Would be a much more natural flow of events.
Basically I don't like having a random ass "now there is a structure with definite levels you must climb with opponents getting stronger on the higher levels"


Why are you hating on people who are discussing something they like/want about OP? Does it really matter if they are a minority? Your basically saying you should shut up unless your opinion is endorsed by 51% of the thread. People are free to discuss, argue for, and defend characters they like. Its easy to ignore it and refrain from contributing to that particular discussion.
Never Knows Best.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
June 25 2014 06:06 GMT
#16719
According to spoilers there's a new cover story featuring Jinbe with this chapter. :D
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 06:29:24
June 25 2014 06:28 GMT
#16720
Great chapter!
Chinese one is out.
I think English sub will be out soon.
+ Show Spoiler +

Luffy gonna be in deep shit...
What do u think? Real flamingo or string mingo?
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