[Manga] One Piece - Page 755

On April 17 2014 10:34 BlackMagister wrote:

And there we go.

When the fruit was first revealed I was wondering if it was even real or a fake. If it was fake from the start and DD never had the fruit then he would have to make a tournament where his men were guaranteed to win. That's the scenario I could see a fake fruit working. I did suggest reputation as a counter point earlier, but we got the honor trolling.

Either way the arena odds were supposed to be stacked in such a way to guarantee Diamante would win, more of DD's men were supposed to participate and maybe there was some rigging that never happened because Sabo destroyed the arena.

On April 16 2014 17:06 Incognoto wrote:


That's why breaks are fundamentally a good thing.

On April 17 2014 11:45 BlackMagister wrote:
I'm aware of both Forikorder and you being called trolls a lot in this thread, but I still wanted my own go at it. Even you replying to Sentenal saying you weren't a troll just nobody can refute your points. Though at least Forikorder's arguments just seem dumb or incorrect rather than intentionally dishonest and off topic.

On April 17 2014 12:36 Sentenal wrote:
When it comes down to it, whether DD's version of "honor" matches our own personal definition of the word is irrelevant. This entire trollfest has shown just how subjective the word is, with DD being honorable to some, and dishonorable to others. But in light of this context, of what rei originally said ("Doflamingo is a honorable person who would never cheat his combatants of his coliseum out of their fight rewards"), the only question that matters is if DD considers himself to be "honorable" or not. And then it opens up a whole new bag of worms as to what his code of honor actually is, if he does. But seeing as how we can't really pick DD's brain due to him being a fictional character, we just have to rely on our own interpretation. Which again, brings us back to the subjectivity of the entire argument, thus making this a pointless, never ending cycle.

On April 17 2014 12:36 Sentenal wrote:
When it comes down to it, whether DD's version of "honor" matches our own personal definition of the word is irrelevant. This entire trollfest has shown just how subjective the word is, with DD being honorable to some, and dishonorable to others. But in light of this context, of what rei originally said ("Doflamingo is a honorable person who would never cheat his combatants of his coliseum out of their fight rewards"), the only question that matters is if DD considers himself to be "honorable" or not. And then it opens up a whole new bag of worms as to what his code of honor actually is, if he does. But seeing as how we can't really pick DD's brain due to him being a fictional character, we just have to rely on our own interpretation. Which again, brings us back to the subjectivity of the entire argument, thus making this a pointless, never ending cycle.

On April 17 2014 23:55 rei wrote:


We actually know a lot about Donflamingo's world view. Just check out his speech during the Marine Fort Arc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEbZcCIXkXY

He doesn't believe in absolute justice, right and wrong, you can infer that he will do whatever it takes for any objectives, and he thinks the end will justify the means.

There are clues as to what Donflamingo is to his crews. Compare Monet's death with how Zorro took all luffy's damage in order to keep Kuma away, or took his own eye and bow down to Mihawk in order to gain power to support luffy's quest. Both Monet and Zorro aren't sacrificing themselves out of fear, but they are willing to do it because they believe that person is more important than their own lives and ambitions.

Then there are Donflamingo's trust in his crew, and he looks after his own crewmates. Remember Baby5 keeps getting trick into stupid marriages? and how mingo keeps going around and killing all of the people that takes advantage of her? and He didn't kill Bellemy or law when he could have done so for all their failures, he even kept law's seat as part of his crew.

Another clue is law's objectives in this whole operation. The intimidate objective: He wants to force Mingo to be the target of Kaido by making kaido angry at Mingo.(if he wanted to do Mingo in, he would not have the need to go after the factory, just go straight after Mingo first and then deal with the factories after Mingo is defeated.) and Law's long term objective? he team up with luffy to take down Kaido. Now why would he needed the first objective to fuck over mingo in the first place? If he wanted to take down Kaido why go after Mingo? If you put these together, it's obvious that he wants Mingo to join forces with him and luffy when they face Kaido. Now how does this explain how it's a clue to Mingo's character? Law knows Mingo will do whatever it takes to achieve an objective, so if Kaido becomes a problem for Mingo, he will do whatever it takes, when it comes down to it even if he has to team up with the people who fucked him over in the first place. If law thinks Mingo's type of guy that's as short sighted as to not team up with him to deal with Kaido because of the whole destroying factory thing, he would have never started this operation.

On April 18 2014 01:40 Mensol wrote:
I also agree with rei.

Doflamingo is definitely an honorable person. He does whatever he can in order to keep his promise to Kaidou. Only honorable person can do something like this.