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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
April 17 2014 17:02 GMT
#15101
if chapter is not available next week

people here will start asking questions like "are we really alive or this is some dream ? " or "what does it mean to be alive?" or "are we supposed to reject every crazed lunatics idea ? or we are just brainwashed by the government to reject ideas which speak of the truth ?" and shit like that
this is a quote
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
April 17 2014 17:15 GMT
#15102
We can rename this thread the Philosophy Thread.
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
April 17 2014 17:45 GMT
#15103
On April 18 2014 01:52 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 01:50 GettingIt wrote:
I think the real debate here is whether to spell it Honor or Honour.


Hodor!


Hodour!
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 17 2014 17:59 GMT
#15104
On April 18 2014 01:56 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 01:40 Mensol wrote:
I also agree with rei.

Doflamingo is definitely an honorable person. He does whatever he can in order to keep his promise to Kaidou. Only honorable person can do something like this.

id say honorable is strong for Doflamingo but i wouldnt say hes a dishonourable person

I actually believe that Doflamingo is a good person inside.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 17 2014 18:05 GMT
#15105
On April 18 2014 02:59 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 01:56 Forikorder wrote:
On April 18 2014 01:40 Mensol wrote:
I also agree with rei.

Doflamingo is definitely an honorable person. He does whatever he can in order to keep his promise to Kaidou. Only honorable person can do something like this.

id say honorable is strong for Doflamingo but i wouldnt say hes a dishonourable person

I actually believe that Doflamingo is a good person inside.

i dunno hes survivng as just a head so theres a good argument to be made that he has no heart
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
April 17 2014 18:25 GMT
#15106
On April 18 2014 02:15 GettingIt wrote:
We can rename this thread the Philosophy Thread.

Patience.

We are not yet at that level of nuts to be doing that. And Oda will release flamewheels chapter next week. Right ? plz oda-sensei do not fail us
this is a quote
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 17 2014 18:27 GMT
#15107
On April 18 2014 03:05 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 02:59 Mensol wrote:
On April 18 2014 01:56 Forikorder wrote:
On April 18 2014 01:40 Mensol wrote:
I also agree with rei.

Doflamingo is definitely an honorable person. He does whatever he can in order to keep his promise to Kaidou. Only honorable person can do something like this.

id say honorable is strong for Doflamingo but i wouldnt say hes a dishonourable person

I actually believe that Doflamingo is a good person inside.

i dunno hes survivng as just a head so theres a good argument to be made that he has no heart

Maybe he's hiding his heart in a box like Davy Jones in order to become immortal.

You know Law was working with him so thats totally possible.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 17 2014 18:42 GMT
#15108
That actually would be kind of cool but nah
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 17 2014 18:45 GMT
#15109
On April 18 2014 03:27 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 03:05 Forikorder wrote:
On April 18 2014 02:59 Mensol wrote:
On April 18 2014 01:56 Forikorder wrote:
On April 18 2014 01:40 Mensol wrote:
I also agree with rei.

Doflamingo is definitely an honorable person. He does whatever he can in order to keep his promise to Kaidou. Only honorable person can do something like this.

id say honorable is strong for Doflamingo but i wouldnt say hes a dishonourable person

I actually believe that Doflamingo is a good person inside.

i dunno hes survivng as just a head so theres a good argument to be made that he has no heart

Maybe he's hiding his heart in a box like Davy Jones in order to become immortal.

You know Law was working with him so thats totally possible.


he would still die from decapitation though; dd's no enel
maru lover forever
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
April 17 2014 18:56 GMT
#15110
So what is Bird Cage? Would the obvious guess be DD uses his strings to literally make a cage out of the island?
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
April 17 2014 19:22 GMT
#15111
I'm assuming it's his contingency plan to deal with the former toys in case something ever happened to Sugar. It would be pretty silly not to have one given the consequences. Forcing no one to leave the island doesn't seem like it would accomplish very much, since they all want his head.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 17 2014 20:00 GMT
#15112
Did someone say zoro took his own eye?
Wtf?
Did I miss something? When did he do that? I thought we don't know exactly what happened?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 20:03:32
April 17 2014 20:03 GMT
#15113
On April 18 2014 05:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Did someone say zoro took his own eye?
Wtf?
Did I miss something? When did he do that? I thought we don't know exactly what happened?

Dont you know that people in this thread are even more informed than Oda's himself.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 20:19:12
April 17 2014 20:18 GMT
#15114
On April 18 2014 05:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Did someone say zoro took his own eye?
Wtf?
Did I miss something? When did he do that? I thought we don't know exactly what happened?

Nobody has even mentioned Zoro within the last several pages except in relation to Usopp being the strongest in East Blue lie. Quote the person you're talking about if it's out the blue.

There was a discussion way back in this thread where someone speculated Zoro cut his own eye to handicap himself since the poster also speculated that Mihawk lost his strongest swordsman title because of an eye injury. Find the original post before disagreeing because the poster had more reasoning. I didn't agree with it then or with their follow up responses.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
April 17 2014 23:40 GMT
#15115
Maybe the Birdcage is a combo technique between Dofla and his Elite officers.

Thinking about it, it appears to need to be activated within the castle, or else he would have done it before sh*t hit the fan.

I do think his strings create the zone around the space which defines the "bird cage". Not only that but his strings to control anyone caught inside it are a lot.

Pica is there for the hard core zone control to keep them in place. If Pica fails to hold them in place, Trebol could always use his fruit powers in tandem with Pica.

Both Diamanante and Law would work as close combat zone control in tandem with Pica and Trebol as "long range" zone control.

that way, it gives further reason ( as oppposed to just their names sounding like the symbols in cards) as to why these 4 specifically as his elite officers.

Plus Law could in theory create a room similar in size to the birdcage if he was given more than enough time.

My speculation though. So I could be wrong.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
April 18 2014 00:53 GMT
#15116
On April 18 2014 04:22 Azuzu wrote:
I'm assuming it's his contingency plan to deal with the former toys in case something ever happened to Sugar. It would be pretty silly not to have one given the consequences. Forcing no one to leave the island doesn't seem like it would accomplish very much, since they all want his head.


This makes sense. I too think that Bird Cage is not an explanation as to why he is alive, but a backup plan to cage all everyone on the island should something happen to Sugar
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 18 2014 03:11 GMT
#15117
On April 18 2014 05:18 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 05:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Did someone say zoro took his own eye?
Wtf?
Did I miss something? When did he do that? I thought we don't know exactly what happened?

Nobody has even mentioned Zoro within the last several pages except in relation to Usopp being the strongest in East Blue lie. Quote the person you're talking about if it's out the blue.

There was a discussion way back in this thread where someone speculated Zoro cut his own eye to handicap himself since the poster also speculated that Mihawk lost his strongest swordsman title because of an eye injury. Find the original post before disagreeing because the poster had more reasoning. I didn't agree with it then or with their follow up responses.

Oh it was rei who said it.
nvm then
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6668 Posts
April 18 2014 04:01 GMT
#15118
On April 18 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 05:18 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 18 2014 05:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Did someone say zoro took his own eye?
Wtf?
Did I miss something? When did he do that? I thought we don't know exactly what happened?

Nobody has even mentioned Zoro within the last several pages except in relation to Usopp being the strongest in East Blue lie. Quote the person you're talking about if it's out the blue.

There was a discussion way back in this thread where someone speculated Zoro cut his own eye to handicap himself since the poster also speculated that Mihawk lost his strongest swordsman title because of an eye injury. Find the original post before disagreeing because the poster had more reasoning. I didn't agree with it then or with their follow up responses.

Oh it was rei who said it.
nvm then

Well, too throw in my two cents again(I posted it earlier). I think Zoro lost his eye in a battle with Mihawk in which Zoro won and became the top swordsman in the world. Meaning he is just going along with Luffy out of dedication(Which fits with his character.), Adding to my theory is his overall lack of effort needed in straight up destroying some decent opponents and a lack of "I can't lose here, have to fight Mihawk again" Attitude in general. The biggest reason I think Oda would do something like this is, No matter how epic he tries to make that fight it will never live up to reader's expectations/hype. Have it happen off screen and do a flashback to it I think is the overall best option. Also added bonus points for the insane/god tier level foreshadowing of having Zoro show up first after the time skip and Luffy showing up last as if signifying the first and last Straw hat to accomplish their goal.

It is a bit of a crackpot theory, I would not in the least be surprised if I was wrong but I think it's good food for thought and makes for a better discussion in this thread then the ethics of honour at the very least....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
April 18 2014 05:34 GMT
#15119
On April 18 2014 13:01 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 18 2014 05:18 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 18 2014 05:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Did someone say zoro took his own eye?
Wtf?
Did I miss something? When did he do that? I thought we don't know exactly what happened?

Nobody has even mentioned Zoro within the last several pages except in relation to Usopp being the strongest in East Blue lie. Quote the person you're talking about if it's out the blue.

There was a discussion way back in this thread where someone speculated Zoro cut his own eye to handicap himself since the poster also speculated that Mihawk lost his strongest swordsman title because of an eye injury. Find the original post before disagreeing because the poster had more reasoning. I didn't agree with it then or with their follow up responses.

Oh it was rei who said it.
nvm then

Well, too throw in my two cents again(I posted it earlier). I think Zoro lost his eye in a battle with Mihawk in which Zoro won and became the top swordsman in the world. Meaning he is just going along with Luffy out of dedication(Which fits with his character.), Adding to my theory is his overall lack of effort needed in straight up destroying some decent opponents and a lack of "I can't lose here, have to fight Mihawk again" Attitude in general. The biggest reason I think Oda would do something like this is, No matter how epic he tries to make that fight it will never live up to reader's expectations/hype. Have it happen off screen and do a flashback to it I think is the overall best option. Also added bonus points for the insane/god tier level foreshadowing of having Zoro show up first after the time skip and Luffy showing up last as if signifying the first and last Straw hat to accomplish their goal.

It is a bit of a crackpot theory, I would not in the least be surprised if I was wrong but I think it's good food for thought and makes for a better discussion in this thread then the ethics of honour at the very least....


You know at first I was like no way Zoro surpassed Mihawk already. But I like the idea of him showing up first being symbolic for him realizing his dream first.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 18 2014 06:06 GMT
#15120
On April 18 2014 14:34 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 13:01 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On April 18 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 18 2014 05:18 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 18 2014 05:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Did someone say zoro took his own eye?
Wtf?
Did I miss something? When did he do that? I thought we don't know exactly what happened?

Nobody has even mentioned Zoro within the last several pages except in relation to Usopp being the strongest in East Blue lie. Quote the person you're talking about if it's out the blue.

There was a discussion way back in this thread where someone speculated Zoro cut his own eye to handicap himself since the poster also speculated that Mihawk lost his strongest swordsman title because of an eye injury. Find the original post before disagreeing because the poster had more reasoning. I didn't agree with it then or with their follow up responses.

Oh it was rei who said it.
nvm then

Well, too throw in my two cents again(I posted it earlier). I think Zoro lost his eye in a battle with Mihawk in which Zoro won and became the top swordsman in the world. Meaning he is just going along with Luffy out of dedication(Which fits with his character.), Adding to my theory is his overall lack of effort needed in straight up destroying some decent opponents and a lack of "I can't lose here, have to fight Mihawk again" Attitude in general. The biggest reason I think Oda would do something like this is, No matter how epic he tries to make that fight it will never live up to reader's expectations/hype. Have it happen off screen and do a flashback to it I think is the overall best option. Also added bonus points for the insane/god tier level foreshadowing of having Zoro show up first after the time skip and Luffy showing up last as if signifying the first and last Straw hat to accomplish their goal.

It is a bit of a crackpot theory, I would not in the least be surprised if I was wrong but I think it's good food for thought and makes for a better discussion in this thread then the ethics of honour at the very least....


You know at first I was like no way Zoro surpassed Mihawk already. But I like the idea of him showing up first being symbolic for him realizing his dream first.


the second person to join the crew, the third person to voice his dream, Luffys right hand man, the pure PINNACLE of manliness, the 2nd main character (not counting a rival)

and you think his dream was accomplished off panel with no mention?

do you think this is bleach?
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