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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
April 14 2014 16:37 GMT
#15001
On April 15 2014 00:52 Serejai wrote:
Do you guys feel that Doflamingo is more or less honorable than Enel?

Poll: Who is most honorable?

Enel (15)
 
68%

Doflamingo (7)
 
32%

22 total votes

Your vote: Who is most honorable?

(Vote): Doflamingo
(Vote): Enel




i think people are voting enel this poll not for the question of the poll but rather since enel is in the poll.
this is a quote
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
April 14 2014 16:46 GMT
#15002
I disagree and how dare you try to tarnish the results of my scientifically accurate poll.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 17:02:09
April 14 2014 16:58 GMT
#15003
On April 15 2014 01:33 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 01:09 BlackMagister wrote:
You can still be honorable to enemies. A swordsman challenges another swordsman to a duel. The second swordsman agrees to the duel, but says "I get to choose the time and place" the first agrees and turns around to leave and is struck down by the second swordsman.

Honorable right? There can still be honor between enemies, it's just when you're trying to kill each other it creates a huge incentive not to be honorable to win. Law was planning to give Caesar back that was honorable even though he could have just killed Caesar after DD appeared to resign.

except the switch was jsut Law trying to buy time...

Law was still planning to uphold his end of the bargain while DD will break promises. Why are you even trying to argue with this? It's one thing in a list of shit DD has done. Let's not forget how DD lied to the entire country to make them hate King Riku when they loved him previously and refused to let Riku try to buy back his kingdom when he attempted to accept the deal DD made.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 14 2014 17:00 GMT
#15004
On April 15 2014 00:51 Raneth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 00:46 Incognoto wrote:
DD shits on everyone except for his crew. which is better than someone like crocodile or buggy

It still doesnt make him honourable, it might make him compassionate to his crew, it might make him protective, it might make him lots of things, what it does not make him, is honourable


never said he was honorable. just said things as they were.

people i would consider honorable in one piece are jinbei, whitebeard, shanks, all the straw hats, etc.
maru lover forever
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 14 2014 17:18 GMT
#15005
On April 15 2014 01:58 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 01:33 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:09 BlackMagister wrote:
You can still be honorable to enemies. A swordsman challenges another swordsman to a duel. The second swordsman agrees to the duel, but says "I get to choose the time and place" the first agrees and turns around to leave and is struck down by the second swordsman.

Honorable right? There can still be honor between enemies, it's just when you're trying to kill each other it creates a huge incentive not to be honorable to win. Law was planning to give Caesar back that was honorable even though he could have just killed Caesar after DD appeared to resign.

except the switch was jsut Law trying to buy time...

Law was still planning to uphold his end of the bargain while DD will break promises. Why are you even trying to argue with this? It's one thing in a list of shit DD has done. Let's not forget how DD lied to the entire country to make them hate King Riku when they loved him previously and refused to let Riku try to buy back his kingdom when he attempted to accept the deal DD made.

if DD "upheld" his end of the "bargain" (which is your term for Law blackmailing DD) then DD would have lost everything
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
April 14 2014 17:35 GMT
#15006
On April 15 2014 02:18 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 01:58 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:33 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:09 BlackMagister wrote:
You can still be honorable to enemies. A swordsman challenges another swordsman to a duel. The second swordsman agrees to the duel, but says "I get to choose the time and place" the first agrees and turns around to leave and is struck down by the second swordsman.

Honorable right? There can still be honor between enemies, it's just when you're trying to kill each other it creates a huge incentive not to be honorable to win. Law was planning to give Caesar back that was honorable even though he could have just killed Caesar after DD appeared to resign.

except the switch was jsut Law trying to buy time...

Law was still planning to uphold his end of the bargain while DD will break promises. Why are you even trying to argue with this? It's one thing in a list of shit DD has done. Let's not forget how DD lied to the entire country to make them hate King Riku when they loved him previously and refused to let Riku try to buy back his kingdom when he attempted to accept the deal DD made.

if DD "upheld" his end of the "bargain" (which is your term for Law blackmailing DD) then DD would have lost everything

So he did a smart thing by tricking law, but he DIDNT do an HONOURABLE thing, you know that word you keep using? Honourable?
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
April 14 2014 17:36 GMT
#15007
On April 15 2014 02:00 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 00:51 Raneth wrote:
On April 15 2014 00:46 Incognoto wrote:
DD shits on everyone except for his crew. which is better than someone like crocodile or buggy

It still doesnt make him honourable, it might make him compassionate to his crew, it might make him protective, it might make him lots of things, what it does not make him, is honourable


never said he was honorable. just said things as they were.

people i would consider honorable in one piece are jinbei, whitebeard, shanks, all the straw hats, etc.

Right you are, was just making sure that wasnt an unwritten implication of your post
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
April 14 2014 17:42 GMT
#15008
Hitler was evil and not a honorable person.. and more then one country followed him!

he had millions of followers and thousands that would die for him, many were forced or had no chance in the matter but many of them would die for him..

Same with Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, etc..

Are they honorable? don't think so dude..

DD is evil and a piece a shit person, does his word mean something? depends on the situation.. if it's to fuck up a enemy? no it doesn't.. if it's to maitain his life and his reputation?? you can bet his words mean something!

That's why i also believe he wouldn't have messed with the fruit.. the winner would grab it but they probably wouldn't walk out of his island with the prize
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 14 2014 17:46 GMT
#15009
On April 15 2014 02:35 Raneth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 02:18 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:58 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:33 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:09 BlackMagister wrote:
You can still be honorable to enemies. A swordsman challenges another swordsman to a duel. The second swordsman agrees to the duel, but says "I get to choose the time and place" the first agrees and turns around to leave and is struck down by the second swordsman.

Honorable right? There can still be honor between enemies, it's just when you're trying to kill each other it creates a huge incentive not to be honorable to win. Law was planning to give Caesar back that was honorable even though he could have just killed Caesar after DD appeared to resign.

except the switch was jsut Law trying to buy time...

Law was still planning to uphold his end of the bargain while DD will break promises. Why are you even trying to argue with this? It's one thing in a list of shit DD has done. Let's not forget how DD lied to the entire country to make them hate King Riku when they loved him previously and refused to let Riku try to buy back his kingdom when he attempted to accept the deal DD made.

if DD "upheld" his end of the "bargain" (which is your term for Law blackmailing DD) then DD would have lost everything

So he did a smart thing by tricking law, but he DIDNT do an HONOURABLE thing, you know that word you keep using? Honourable?

it doesnt make someone un-honourable to lie to someone when its either lie or die
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 14 2014 17:52 GMT
#15010
On April 15 2014 02:42 shell wrote:
Hitler was evil and not a honorable person.. and more then one country followed him!

he had millions of followers and thousands that would die for him, many were forced or had no chance in the matter but many of them would die for him..

Same with Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, etc..

Are they honorable? don't think so dude..

DD is evil and a piece a shit person, does his word mean something? depends on the situation.. if it's to fuck up a enemy? no it doesn't.. if it's to maitain his life and his reputation?? you can bet his words mean something!

That's why i also believe he wouldn't have messed with the fruit.. the winner would grab it but they probably wouldn't walk out of his island with the prize


I think DD isn't as bad as hitler though.
maru lover forever
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 14 2014 17:54 GMT
#15011
godwin pls
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
April 14 2014 18:03 GMT
#15012
On April 15 2014 02:46 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 02:35 Raneth wrote:
On April 15 2014 02:18 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:58 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:33 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:09 BlackMagister wrote:
You can still be honorable to enemies. A swordsman challenges another swordsman to a duel. The second swordsman agrees to the duel, but says "I get to choose the time and place" the first agrees and turns around to leave and is struck down by the second swordsman.

Honorable right? There can still be honor between enemies, it's just when you're trying to kill each other it creates a huge incentive not to be honorable to win. Law was planning to give Caesar back that was honorable even though he could have just killed Caesar after DD appeared to resign.

except the switch was jsut Law trying to buy time...

Law was still planning to uphold his end of the bargain while DD will break promises. Why are you even trying to argue with this? It's one thing in a list of shit DD has done. Let's not forget how DD lied to the entire country to make them hate King Riku when they loved him previously and refused to let Riku try to buy back his kingdom when he attempted to accept the deal DD made.

if DD "upheld" his end of the "bargain" (which is your term for Law blackmailing DD) then DD would have lost everything

So he did a smart thing by tricking law, but he DIDNT do an HONOURABLE thing, you know that word you keep using? Honourable?

it doesnt make someone un-honourable to lie to someone when its either lie or die


Good thing it wasn't lie or die then.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 14 2014 18:38 GMT
#15013
Poll: Doflamingo is an honorable person?

False (18)
 
90%

True (2)
 
10%

20 total votes

Your vote: Doflamingo is an honorable person?

(Vote): True
(Vote): False

goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
April 14 2014 18:47 GMT
#15014
On April 15 2014 03:38 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Poll: Doflamingo is an honorable person?

False (18)
 
90%

True (2)
 
10%

20 total votes

Your vote: Doflamingo is an honorable person?

(Vote): True
(Vote): False


a much more accurate poll than the one Serejai made.
this is a quote
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 14 2014 18:50 GMT
#15015
On April 15 2014 03:03 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 02:46 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 02:35 Raneth wrote:
On April 15 2014 02:18 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:58 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:33 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:09 BlackMagister wrote:
You can still be honorable to enemies. A swordsman challenges another swordsman to a duel. The second swordsman agrees to the duel, but says "I get to choose the time and place" the first agrees and turns around to leave and is struck down by the second swordsman.

Honorable right? There can still be honor between enemies, it's just when you're trying to kill each other it creates a huge incentive not to be honorable to win. Law was planning to give Caesar back that was honorable even though he could have just killed Caesar after DD appeared to resign.

except the switch was jsut Law trying to buy time...

Law was still planning to uphold his end of the bargain while DD will break promises. Why are you even trying to argue with this? It's one thing in a list of shit DD has done. Let's not forget how DD lied to the entire country to make them hate King Riku when they loved him previously and refused to let Riku try to buy back his kingdom when he attempted to accept the deal DD made.

if DD "upheld" his end of the "bargain" (which is your term for Law blackmailing DD) then DD would have lost everything

So he did a smart thing by tricking law, but he DIDNT do an HONOURABLE thing, you know that word you keep using? Honourable?

it doesnt make someone un-honourable to lie to someone when its either lie or die


Good thing it wasn't lie or die then.

cause Law totally doest seem like he wants DD dead

at any rate there enemies only the most lawful stupid would refuse to lie to there enemy
MagmaPunch
Profile Joined November 2011
Bulgaria536 Posts
April 14 2014 18:50 GMT
#15016
Why the fuck are we even talking about Doflamingo being an honorable men ? Honorable is pretty subjective in some cases.In my opinion, we cannot say that Doffy is honorable, no fucking way. Is he loyal in regard to his crew and high-ranking officers ? So far it has been shown,that he is. However, I Doffla is ready to use any means necessary to win,even if it involves deceit,blackmailing, falsely accusing someone etc. etc.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
April 14 2014 18:55 GMT
#15017
The dudes a Pirate. He ain't following no rules that he can get away with not following.
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 19:11:32
April 14 2014 19:11 GMT
#15018
On April 15 2014 03:55 shark. wrote:
The dudes a Pirate. He ain't following no rules that he can get away with not following.

here here!

Edit: To quote the great jack sparrow "Pirate..."
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
April 14 2014 20:06 GMT
#15019
On April 15 2014 03:50 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 03:03 GettingIt wrote:
On April 15 2014 02:46 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 02:35 Raneth wrote:
On April 15 2014 02:18 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:58 BlackMagister wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:33 Forikorder wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:09 BlackMagister wrote:
You can still be honorable to enemies. A swordsman challenges another swordsman to a duel. The second swordsman agrees to the duel, but says "I get to choose the time and place" the first agrees and turns around to leave and is struck down by the second swordsman.

Honorable right? There can still be honor between enemies, it's just when you're trying to kill each other it creates a huge incentive not to be honorable to win. Law was planning to give Caesar back that was honorable even though he could have just killed Caesar after DD appeared to resign.

except the switch was jsut Law trying to buy time...

Law was still planning to uphold his end of the bargain while DD will break promises. Why are you even trying to argue with this? It's one thing in a list of shit DD has done. Let's not forget how DD lied to the entire country to make them hate King Riku when they loved him previously and refused to let Riku try to buy back his kingdom when he attempted to accept the deal DD made.

if DD "upheld" his end of the "bargain" (which is your term for Law blackmailing DD) then DD would have lost everything

So he did a smart thing by tricking law, but he DIDNT do an HONOURABLE thing, you know that word you keep using? Honourable?

it doesnt make someone un-honourable to lie to someone when its either lie or die


Good thing it wasn't lie or die then.

cause Law totally doest seem like he wants DD dead

at any rate there enemies only the most lawful stupid would refuse to lie to there enemy


Cause Law totally can kill DD
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 20:21:41
April 14 2014 20:20 GMT
#15020
Doing the smart thing and the honorable thing are two different things. Just like it might be smart to break a treaty or a cease fire agreement, but it's not honorable. There can be honor between enemies that want to kill each other is that really so hard to understand?
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