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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On March 27 2014 20:10 sc2holar wrote: Gasu Gasu no mi. Doflamingo made Ceasar a crewmate back at green bit so the marines couldnt arrest him (ceasar had a bounty in the 250-300mil range), remember  ?ah i see | ||
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zeo
Serbia6267 Posts
On March 27 2014 18:04 sc2holar wrote: No, she passed out from shock after seeing usopps freaky face. Thats classic one piece. A mind-connecting plant is not only extremley overpowed, its also one of the strangest, most convoluted theories i have heard. A mind-connecting plant? Seriously? You can clearly see that sugar starts to freak out AFTER shr sees usopps crazy-face. Trebol even tells her to get a hold of herself... Well the Tatababasco is a grape, as in a plant from the overpowered plant island Usopp was on. It could be something that is so hot that it burns everyone in the vicinity of the one eating it, it could also burn whoever eats it and whoever gave it to them. I don't know, rereading the last few chapters it seems the Sop strategy relied specifically on Usopp doing something, he purposefully bit the grape and then gulped it down. Maybe the plant has mind connecting properties, I thought it wasn't that bad of a theory  | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On March 27 2014 20:40 zeo wrote: Maybe the plant has mind connecting properties, I thought it wasn't that bad of a theory When you look at it out of context, it really isnt too far fetched. But there is no way such a powerful tool would ever end up in usopps hands, he is not supposed to wield such power | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On March 27 2014 07:55 Gjhc wrote: What the hell. I'm pretty sure Sugar fainted because of the tabasco in Usopp's breath, not because of his face... I mean that grape is supposed to be super spicy and just after Usopp ate it he opens his mouth and exhales right in Sugar's face. The spicy substance in his mouth dissolves and then his breath get's really 'hot', illustrated by the fire coming out of Usopp's mouth, and reacts in Sugar's eyes (you can see huge tears in her eyes, which are not in the typical enel face), nose (some snot coming out of her nose) probably mouth, and that's why she faints. Which is hilarious because in the end, after being utterly defeated Ussop accomplishes his goal of making Sugar faint with the tabasco grape. I'm pretty sure no one here mentioned this 'theory' and is just assuming she got scared (wtf, worst reason ever). Correct me if I'm wrong Please. Exp Sanji legitimately went into blood loss just because of a massive nose bleed due to being near beautiful mermaids. Which lead to a plot point regarding the discussion about blood transfusion between humans and fishmen. If Sugar fainted just because of seeing Usopp ridiculous face which involves popping twirling eyeballs and tongues, It is possible.It is not the worst reason ever. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6267 Posts
On March 27 2014 20:44 sc2holar wrote: When you look at it out of context, it really isnt too far fetched. But there is no way such a powerful tool would ever end up in usopps hands, he is not supposed to wield such power I didn't really think about it being that overpowered, just as a fail-safe. Getting the grape into her mouth seems like a long shot without that much chance of success. But anyone close to her eating it and KO'ing her seems like a nice backup plan. Though Usopp having Conquerors Haki would be a bit more overpowered than a plant  | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On March 27 2014 20:57 zeo wrote: I didn't really think about it being that overpowered, just as a fail-safe. Getting the grape into her mouth seems like a long shot without that much chance of success. But anyone close to her eating it and KO'ing her seems like a nice backup plan. Though Usopp having Conquerors Haki would be a bit more overpowered than a plant But the same plant could also be used to kill extremley powerful enemies. Plus, the whole Mind/body connection thing would kinda be too similiar to Law's Devil fruit. He kinda did exactly what you said when he swapped ceasars heart with a random marine. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On March 27 2014 20:40 zeo wrote: Well the Tatababasco is a grape, as in a plant from the overpowered plant island Usopp was on. It could be something that is so hot that it burns everyone in the vicinity of the one eating it, it could also burn whoever eats it and whoever gave it to them. I don't know, rereading the last few chapters it seems the Sop strategy relied specifically on Usopp doing something, he purposefully bit the grape and then gulped it down. Maybe the plant has mind connecting properties, I thought it wasn't that bad of a theory Pretty sure the tatabasco was given to Usopp by the tontatta. Or did they take tatabasco from him and instantly got the idea they could mix it under Sugar's sweets? | ||
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goody153
44020 Posts
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
He also has great chemistry with Luffy. They love to joke around and play pranks. Zoro on the other hand should have better chemistry with Luffy than he has imo since he is the first mate and luffys first nakama. but he rarely acts like one, he is only focused on his swordsmanship and strenght and is to self-absorbed to act as second in command. hands down the most introvert strawhat. Do people remember that he actually used to laugh back in east blue? what happened, did Mihawk cut his funny bone? Sanji is much more observant and intelligent, and capable of coming up with solutions in dangerous situations. Franky would probably be a decent first mate aswell. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
when Usopp was trying to return who was it who stopped them from just instantly accepting him back? | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On March 28 2014 00:41 Forikorder wrote: when Luffy was dead on Thriller bark who was it who sacrificed himself to get him better? when Usopp was trying to return who was it who stopped them from just instantly accepting him back? Sanji was the first to offer to sacrifice himself. I disagreed with Zoro when it came to accepting Usopp back. Usopp risked his life to help save Robin when he didnt have to. That alone proves his loyalty and commitment to the crew. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
I'll admit saying that Trebol isn't a Logia is a mistake but saying that Zoro doesn't act like a first mate is an even bigger one. | ||
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
On March 28 2014 00:47 Incognoto wrote: blerfh I'll admit saying that Trebol isn't a Logia is a mistake but saying that Zoro doesn't act like a first mate is an even bigger one. Agree 100%. Given that his captain is a (loveable) goofball most of the time, Zoro has to be more serious, as they live in a deathly serious world. Usopp has the luxury of being able to laugh and joke all the time, while Zoro has more real responsibility. | ||
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goody153
44020 Posts
1. Luffy - takes care of the goals and gives permission to do something 2. Nami - takes care of the little details in dire situations 3. Zoro - keeps the crew and the captain in check. Usopp is like there own personal clown. I can't find any SH crew that is not comfortable with Usopp. I also don't think there is any member in SH crew who is not willing to die for Luffy. As well as the others if needed and they got no choice. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On March 28 2014 00:47 Incognoto wrote: blerfh I'll admit saying that Trebol isn't a Logia is a mistake but saying that Zoro doesn't act like a first mate is an even bigger one. Really, when was the last time he did? He used to act like a proper first mate but now it only happens on rare occasions. During dressrosa, id say Franky has taken the most initiatives. Sanji has done alot of heroic stuff too. Zoro has been extremley absent during the entire arc. I cant think of a single initiative he has taken except for taking on Pica. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On March 28 2014 00:52 goody153 wrote: There are 3 people who acts as the leader in SH crew. 1. Luffy - takes care of the goals and gives permission to do something 2. Nami - takes care of the little details in dire situations 3. Zoro - keeps the crew and the captain in check. Usopp is like there own personal clown. I can't find any SH crew that is not comfortable with Usopp. I also don't think there is any member in SH crew who is not willing to die for Luffy. As well as the others if needed and they got no choice. I think you should add Sanji to the list tbh. He solves a lot of situations and is probably the most intelligent male SH. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 28 2014 00:46 sc2holar wrote: Sanji was the first to offer to sacrifice himself. I disagreed with Zoro when it came to accepting Usopp back. Usopp risked his life to help save Robin when he didnt have to. That alone proves his loyalty and commitment to the crew. no he wasnt, Zoro fought of Kuma and lost so sacrificed himself, Sanji heard that and offered but got knocked out by Zoro wether Usopp was loyal or commited is irrelevant he still attacked the captain you cant just pretend that never happened without some sort of apology During dressrosa, id say Franky has taken the most initiatives. Sanji has done alot of heroic stuff too. Zoro has been extremley absent during the entire arc. I cant think of a single initiative he has taken except for taking on Pica. and what has Luffy done aside from get side tracked in the Colloseum? | ||
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goody153
44020 Posts
On March 28 2014 00:58 sc2holar wrote: I think you should add Sanji to the list tbh. He solves a lot of situations and is probably the most intelligent male SH. He is more like a worker and fighter in my opinion. Usually tanks most of shit that is about to hit other SH crew member. Not so much as a leader as i have seen it. The 3 are the only one i observed that acts like one. Sanji acts like Franky and Robin. Usually just makes their own initiative to act on their own but doesn't command other members around. | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On March 28 2014 00:54 sc2holar wrote: Really, when was the last time he did? He used to act like a proper first mate but now it only happens on rare occasions. During dressrosa, id say Franky has taken the most initiatives. Sanji has done alot of heroic stuff too. Zoro has been extremley absent during the entire arc. I cant think of a single initiative he has taken except for taking on Pica. What could he have done? Oda had him running around looking for his swords most of the time and as soon as he found them he immediately tried to go back to the Sunny to help his crew until he found Luffy where they made a change of plans and he immediately started running to Dofla's palace right after taking on an Admiral. | ||
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goody153
44020 Posts
On March 28 2014 01:00 Forikorder wrote: no he wasnt, Zoro fought of Kuma and lost so sacrificed himself, Sanji heard that and offered but got knocked out by Zoro wether Usopp was loyal or commited is irrelevant he still attacked the captain you cant just pretend that never happened without some sort of apology and what has Luffy done aside from get side tracked in the Colloseum? Luffy is still the captain. The captains word is the law as they say. So you can bet he'll just do whatever he wants. Despite his crew having a bad time. As what the past episodes have shown. | ||
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