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On October 30 2013 05:17 Zeo1990 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2013 04:57 Zeo1990 wrote:
Alright speculation time:
Mr Soilder is NOT King Riku, hes Rebeccas REAL father which would have made him a Prince (although I think her mother was the more direct lineage and her father married into royalty but i digress its not too important). Anyway, he was originally human, turned into a toy and came back to his daughter after his wife got killed by DF.
Why did Rebecca say her mother was her only family? Because her memory of her father was erased like Mr Soilder mentioned a few chapters ago, so her memeroies of her father are now GONE. Which would mean this flashback in intentionally inacurrate because of the memory motherfuckery that results from being turned into a toy.
So where is the real King Riku you ask? Why i believe hes clearly the masked gladiator Ricky or course! (RIKu/RIKy?) Hes clearly very old and we already had breif flashbacck where we saw Ricky and Rebecca together. This explains why hes so set on keeping the mask on. Because he would being fucking lynched on sight for teh shit he suposedly did (which was probably a set up by DF but we'll see) CALLED IT!!! i r SMRT =D
Well done. :D
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No guesses of what Violet's true relation might be? The dressrosa army captain who was still loyal to the ex-king only stayed with the Doflamingo family because of Violet — assumably to protect her. It was an honorable act of him in the ex-king's eyes, and he understood why he had done it.
So that begs the question, who exactly is Violet and what kind of relation does she have to the Riku family — if any? It could be that she's just family to the army captain, I suppose, and he felt like he needed to stick around to try to keep her safe even though it would mean he had to deal with some nasty people.
The last act we know of Violet's is that she went to the royal palace. That might be significant if she was involved with the royal family before Doflamingo came to Dressrosa.
On October 30 2013 05:04 AsnSensation wrote:
I assume that Rebecca's Mum was the daughter of the king and not the toy soldier because he mentons Rebecca to be a blodd relative to the king but "only" says that he's not Rebecca's dad.
The ex-king explitictly says he's the grandfather of Rebecca.
The toy soldier explitictly says he's the father of Rebecca.
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On October 30 2013 09:34 sumsaR wrote:
The ex-king explitictly says he's the grandfather of Rebecca.
The toy soldier explitictly says he's the father of Rebecca.
The ex-king can be the grandfather of Rebecca thanks to his daughter and not his son.
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On October 30 2013 03:49 valaki wrote:
Sanji has long lost the title of being a rival to Zoro. During the CP9 saga, it was heavily implied that Sanji is just below Zero by a tiny margain (10 or so difference in douriki between Kaku and Jyabura). Now it's just Oda making fun of Sanji, losing to Vergo badly (inb4 someone says "b-but they didn't even fight and Sanji would pwn him surely!", yeah, no. A fracture to Sanji's leg is like 1 or 2 broken swords for Zoro. And now Doflamingo pwning him easily. In contrast, Zoro constantly gives off the aura that he's unbeatable after the timeskip. Hopefully Oda does something for Sanji to regain his position, because I really like him too, but AS HE IS PORTRAYED NOW, he's nowhere near Zoro.
As someone said Zoro is clearly set up at the 2nd strongest #2 man. Doesn't diminish Sanji as the 3rd best fighter because in the end the straw hats are set up to become one of the next huge crews in the future where the whole crew is considered super powerful. No shame in losing to Zoro after he got trained by the best swordsman in the world. He is actually the guy who I want to see go all out the most.
Zoro has always been super strong. In pre-time skip era in a lot of the fights he was always handicapped in some way (usually injury or some problem with his swords) because he was already a monster.
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On October 30 2013 03:49 valaki wrote:
Sanji has long lost the title of being a rival to Zoro. During the CP9 saga, it was heavily implied that Sanji is just below Zero by a tiny margain (10 or so difference in douriki between Kaku and Jyabura). Now it's just Oda making fun of Sanji, losing to Vergo badly (inb4 someone says "b-but they didn't even fight and Sanji would pwn him surely!", yeah, no. A fracture to Sanji's leg is like 1 or 2 broken swords for Zoro. And now Doflamingo pwning him easily. In contrast, Zoro constantly gives off the aura that he's unbeatable after the timeskip. Hopefully Oda does something for Sanji to regain his position, because I really like him too, but AS HE IS PORTRAYED NOW, he's nowhere near Zoro.
1. it wasnt broken it was fractured which would hurt like hell but he fought well on the baraty with all his ribs gone so he would have man moded it
2. he didnt go fire mode against Vergo
3. Dofla cuaght him by surprise if he knew about the strings beforehand maybe different story (and if they fought on the ground where Sanji can use full mobility)
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And of course "fangirl" finally found Luffy.
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Sanji did go flame mode. Post time skip Sanji doesn't need to drag his foot on the ground to make it hot, he just makes it hot by thinking about his time being pursued by the okamas.
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/681/14
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On October 30 2013 12:22 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:49 valaki wrote:
Sanji has long lost the title of being a rival to Zoro. During the CP9 saga, it was heavily implied that Sanji is just below Zero by a tiny margain (10 or so difference in douriki between Kaku and Jyabura). Now it's just Oda making fun of Sanji, losing to Vergo badly (inb4 someone says "b-but they didn't even fight and Sanji would pwn him surely!", yeah, no. A fracture to Sanji's leg is like 1 or 2 broken swords for Zoro. And now Doflamingo pwning him easily. In contrast, Zoro constantly gives off the aura that he's unbeatable after the timeskip. Hopefully Oda does something for Sanji to regain his position, because I really like him too, but AS HE IS PORTRAYED NOW, he's nowhere near Zoro. 1. it wasnt broken it was fractured which would hurt like hell but he fought well on the baraty with all his ribs gone so he would have man moded it 2. he didnt go fire mode against Vergo 3. Dofla cuaght him by surprise if he knew about the strings beforehand maybe different story (and if they fought on the ground where Sanji can use full mobility)
Why are you always marching in with Statements [sic] and bulletpoints and whatnot like you are the head of some One Piece Interpretation Committee? It's fucking annoying and just makes you look like an argumentative dickhead.
The chapter was great, and good to see Trebol in action. The Doflamingo crew have some really OP fruits no wonder they got to be this influential. Based on how after defeating art art fruit lady everyone returned to be normal I think we don't have to fear Sai getting out from his hypnotised-toy state.
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The only thing that make sanji look strong now, is Doflamingo saying OH STRONG ONE IS HERE.
And, after brutal cut he still able to be feeling fine at the ship.
Other than that, he needs to do something ! I cant wait for him to do something epic.
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The nature of dofla's string ability to manipulate people is highly dangerous, if fighting dofla at all it's optimal to know which countermeasures to use. Sanji just got caught off guard.
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On October 30 2013 21:13 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 12:22 Forikorder wrote:On October 30 2013 03:49 valaki wrote:
Sanji has long lost the title of being a rival to Zoro. During the CP9 saga, it was heavily implied that Sanji is just below Zero by a tiny margain (10 or so difference in douriki between Kaku and Jyabura). Now it's just Oda making fun of Sanji, losing to Vergo badly (inb4 someone says "b-but they didn't even fight and Sanji would pwn him surely!", yeah, no. A fracture to Sanji's leg is like 1 or 2 broken swords for Zoro. And now Doflamingo pwning him easily. In contrast, Zoro constantly gives off the aura that he's unbeatable after the timeskip. Hopefully Oda does something for Sanji to regain his position, because I really like him too, but AS HE IS PORTRAYED NOW, he's nowhere near Zoro. 1. it wasnt broken it was fractured which would hurt like hell but he fought well on the baraty with all his ribs gone so he would have man moded it 2. he didnt go fire mode against Vergo 3. Dofla cuaght him by surprise if he knew about the strings beforehand maybe different story (and if they fought on the ground where Sanji can use full mobility) Why are you always marching in with Statements [sic] and bulletpoints and whatnot like you are the head of some One Piece Interpretation Committee? It's fucking annoying and just makes you look like an argumentative dickhead. The chapter was great, and good to see Trebol in action. The Doflamingo crew have some really OP fruits no wonder they got to be this influential. Based on how after defeating art art fruit lady everyone returned to be normal I think we don't have to fear Sai getting out from his hypnotised-toy state.
this post is hilarious HAHAH
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On October 30 2013 21:13 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 12:22 Forikorder wrote:On October 30 2013 03:49 valaki wrote:
Sanji has long lost the title of being a rival to Zoro. During the CP9 saga, it was heavily implied that Sanji is just below Zero by a tiny margain (10 or so difference in douriki between Kaku and Jyabura). Now it's just Oda making fun of Sanji, losing to Vergo badly (inb4 someone says "b-but they didn't even fight and Sanji would pwn him surely!", yeah, no. A fracture to Sanji's leg is like 1 or 2 broken swords for Zoro. And now Doflamingo pwning him easily. In contrast, Zoro constantly gives off the aura that he's unbeatable after the timeskip. Hopefully Oda does something for Sanji to regain his position, because I really like him too, but AS HE IS PORTRAYED NOW, he's nowhere near Zoro. 1. it wasnt broken it was fractured which would hurt like hell but he fought well on the baraty with all his ribs gone so he would have man moded it 2. he didnt go fire mode against Vergo 3. Dofla cuaght him by surprise if he knew about the strings beforehand maybe different story (and if they fought on the ground where Sanji can use full mobility) Why are you always marching in with Statements [sic] and bulletpoints and whatnot like you are the head of some One Piece Interpretation Committee? It's fucking annoying and just makes you look like an argumentative dickhead. The chapter was great, and good to see Trebol in action. The Doflamingo crew have some really OP fruits no wonder they got to be this influential. Based on how after defeating art art fruit lady everyone returned to be normal I think we don't have to fear Sai getting out from his hypnotised-toy state.
One Piece Interpretation Committee? What a great idea! Let's start the OPIC right now! To join you must correctly answer the following (interpretive) questions:
+ Show Spoiler +
When did Zoro first cut metal?
When did Sanji first use his left eye?
How did Moria escape Marineford?
What is the hardest thing we have seen Zoro eat?
What was Shanks doing in the east blue?
How will Usopp most likely die?
What pun did Oda take 10 years to make?
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In what ways could Crocodile be Luffy's mother?
They get progressively harder. Try not to use online sources. If someone correctly answers all of the questions then OPIC is immediately dissolved. Good luck!
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On October 31 2013 03:14 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 21:13 PVJ wrote:On October 30 2013 12:22 Forikorder wrote:On October 30 2013 03:49 valaki wrote:
Sanji has long lost the title of being a rival to Zoro. During the CP9 saga, it was heavily implied that Sanji is just below Zero by a tiny margain (10 or so difference in douriki between Kaku and Jyabura). Now it's just Oda making fun of Sanji, losing to Vergo badly (inb4 someone says "b-but they didn't even fight and Sanji would pwn him surely!", yeah, no. A fracture to Sanji's leg is like 1 or 2 broken swords for Zoro. And now Doflamingo pwning him easily. In contrast, Zoro constantly gives off the aura that he's unbeatable after the timeskip. Hopefully Oda does something for Sanji to regain his position, because I really like him too, but AS HE IS PORTRAYED NOW, he's nowhere near Zoro. 1. it wasnt broken it was fractured which would hurt like hell but he fought well on the baraty with all his ribs gone so he would have man moded it 2. he didnt go fire mode against Vergo 3. Dofla cuaght him by surprise if he knew about the strings beforehand maybe different story (and if they fought on the ground where Sanji can use full mobility) Why are you always marching in with Statements [sic] and bulletpoints and whatnot like you are the head of some One Piece Interpretation Committee? It's fucking annoying and just makes you look like an argumentative dickhead. The chapter was great, and good to see Trebol in action. The Doflamingo crew have some really OP fruits no wonder they got to be this influential. Based on how after defeating art art fruit lady everyone returned to be normal I think we don't have to fear Sai getting out from his hypnotised-toy state. One Piece Interpretation Committee? What a great idea! Let's start the OPIC right now! To join you must correctly answer the following (interpretive) questions: + Show Spoiler +
When did Zoro first cut metal?
When did Sanji first use his left eye?
How did Moria escape Marineford?
What is the hardest thing we have seen Zoro eat?
What was Shanks doing in the east blue?
How will Usopp most likely die?
What pun did Oda take 10 years to make?
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In what ways could Crocodile be Luffy's mother?
They get progressively harder. Try not to use online sources. If someone correctly answers all of the questions then OPIC is immediately dissolved. Good luck!
You forgot the hardest and final one: "Why is Enel the strongest man alive and how high would his bounty be?"
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Oh wow I can answer most of those whoo
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Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic?
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On October 31 2013 11:37 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic?
Nope.
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/On9oPbk.png) It has to due with the fact that Don Krieg was able to throw that ship without bending his knees, only using his shoulder and standing on a rickety wooden platform in the sea while Jozu used his entire body (arms, bend legs, bent back) and putting a lot of force into it as well as standing on a giant iceberg as well, giving him proper footing.
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On October 31 2013 13:23 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 11:37 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic? Nope. + Show Spoiler +It has to due with the fact that Don Krieg was able to throw that ship without bending his knees, only using his shoulder and standing on a rickety wooden platform in the sea while Jozu used his entire body (arms, bend legs, bent back) and putting a lot of force into it as well as standing on a giant iceberg as well, giving him proper footing.
Isnt that just because Oda was bad at drawing at the beginning lol
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Or maybe because the iceberg is more fucking heavy than that little boat??? MAYBE? Titanic much???!!
Where's the One Piece Interpretation Committee when you need it, seriously.
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Yeah boats are made to float. Plus he may not have been straining so much from the lifting of the ice as much as tearing the ice from the ice sheet. Also, it's a manga.
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