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On October 31 2013 13:23 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 11:37 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic? Nope. + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/On9oPbk.png) It has to due with the fact that Don Krieg was able to throw that ship without bending his knees, only using his shoulder and standing on a rickety wooden platform in the sea while Jozu used his entire body (arms, bend legs, bent back) and putting a lot of force into it as well as standing on a giant iceberg as well, giving him proper footing.
haha... 1 cubic meter of ice is about 900 kg, the average males in One Piece is probably around 1.80 meter and they're drawn as little dots at the bottom of the picture. I cant even imagine how much that iceberg weight. That is some Dragon Ball Z weight lifting tier Jozu is doing right there.
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On November 01 2013 01:57 SoulTakerz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 13:23 Hyperbola wrote:On October 31 2013 11:37 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic? Nope. + Show Spoiler +It has to due with the fact that Don Krieg was able to throw that ship without bending his knees, only using his shoulder and standing on a rickety wooden platform in the sea while Jozu used his entire body (arms, bend legs, bent back) and putting a lot of force into it as well as standing on a giant iceberg as well, giving him proper footing. haha... 1 cubic meter of ice is about 900 kg, the average males in One Piece is probably around 1.80 meter and they're drawn as little dots at the bottom of the picture. I cant even imagine how much that iceberg weight. That is some Dragon Ball Z weight lifting tier Jozu is doing right there.
but its magic ice though so it may have been less dense then normal ice to allow the devil fruit to create mass quantitys in short time
or maybe it actually doesnt weigh anything at all since it was created out of nothing
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On November 01 2013 02:04 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:57 SoulTakerz wrote:On October 31 2013 13:23 Hyperbola wrote:On October 31 2013 11:37 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic? Nope. + Show Spoiler +It has to due with the fact that Don Krieg was able to throw that ship without bending his knees, only using his shoulder and standing on a rickety wooden platform in the sea while Jozu used his entire body (arms, bend legs, bent back) and putting a lot of force into it as well as standing on a giant iceberg as well, giving him proper footing. haha... 1 cubic meter of ice is about 900 kg, the average males in One Piece is probably around 1.80 meter and they're drawn as little dots at the bottom of the picture. I cant even imagine how much that iceberg weight. That is some Dragon Ball Z weight lifting tier Jozu is doing right there. but its magic ice though so it may have been less dense then normal ice to allow the devil fruit to create mass quantitys in short time or maybe it actually doesnt weigh anything at all since it was created out of nothing
but it wasn't created out of nothing. That iceberg came from Aokiji freezing the giant tsunami that Whitebeard made
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On November 01 2013 02:04 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:57 SoulTakerz wrote:On October 31 2013 13:23 Hyperbola wrote:On October 31 2013 11:37 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic? Nope. + Show Spoiler +It has to due with the fact that Don Krieg was able to throw that ship without bending his knees, only using his shoulder and standing on a rickety wooden platform in the sea while Jozu used his entire body (arms, bend legs, bent back) and putting a lot of force into it as well as standing on a giant iceberg as well, giving him proper footing. haha... 1 cubic meter of ice is about 900 kg, the average males in One Piece is probably around 1.80 meter and they're drawn as little dots at the bottom of the picture. I cant even imagine how much that iceberg weight. That is some Dragon Ball Z weight lifting tier Jozu is doing right there. but its magic ice though so it may have been less dense then normal ice to allow the devil fruit to create mass quantitys in short time or maybe it actually doesnt weigh anything at all since it was created out of nothing
Classic Forikorder reasoning.
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Maybe the ice is drawn on paper.
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To be fair, Logia Ice has shown to behave differently than normal ice. it can condense on the users command to reshape like a T-1000 etc. But the Ice refered to in this debate was indeed normal water frozen by ice age, so its irrelevant to the debate in question.
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On November 01 2013 03:27 Mataza wrote:
Maybe the ice is drawn on paper.
It's just a giant paper mache ice berg.
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On November 01 2013 02:04 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:57 SoulTakerz wrote:On October 31 2013 13:23 Hyperbola wrote:On October 31 2013 11:37 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic? Nope. + Show Spoiler +It has to due with the fact that Don Krieg was able to throw that ship without bending his knees, only using his shoulder and standing on a rickety wooden platform in the sea while Jozu used his entire body (arms, bend legs, bent back) and putting a lot of force into it as well as standing on a giant iceberg as well, giving him proper footing. haha... 1 cubic meter of ice is about 900 kg, the average males in One Piece is probably around 1.80 meter and they're drawn as little dots at the bottom of the picture. I cant even imagine how much that iceberg weight. That is some Dragon Ball Z weight lifting tier Jozu is doing right there. but its magic ice though so it may have been less dense then normal ice to allow the devil fruit to create mass quantitys in short time or maybe it actually doesnt weigh anything at all since it was created out of nothing
wut.
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On November 01 2013 02:04 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:57 SoulTakerz wrote:On October 31 2013 13:23 Hyperbola wrote:On October 31 2013 11:37 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Why is Don Krieg stronger than Jozu?
In swimming olympic? Nope. + Show Spoiler +It has to due with the fact that Don Krieg was able to throw that ship without bending his knees, only using his shoulder and standing on a rickety wooden platform in the sea while Jozu used his entire body (arms, bend legs, bent back) and putting a lot of force into it as well as standing on a giant iceberg as well, giving him proper footing. haha... 1 cubic meter of ice is about 900 kg, the average males in One Piece is probably around 1.80 meter and they're drawn as little dots at the bottom of the picture. I cant even imagine how much that iceberg weight. That is some Dragon Ball Z weight lifting tier Jozu is doing right there. but its magic ice though so it may have been less dense then normal ice to allow the devil fruit to create mass quantitys in short time or maybe it actually doesnt weigh anything at all since it was created out of nothing
when i read this i laughed out loud in real life
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On November 01 2013 02:04 Forikorder wrote:
but its magic ice though so it may have been less dense then normal ice to allow the devil fruit to create mass quantitys in short time
or maybe it actually doesnt weigh anything at all since it was created out of nothing
It's Bleach's ice, it's made of ice with layers of vacuum inside it.
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Kubo bullshit ruining One Piece confirmed.
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On November 01 2013 09:58 Lysteria wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 02:04 Forikorder wrote:
but its magic ice though so it may have been less dense then normal ice to allow the devil fruit to create mass quantitys in short time
or maybe it actually doesnt weigh anything at all since it was created out of nothing It's Bleach's ice, it's made of ice with layers of vacuum inside it.
Lmao laughed way harder than I should of.
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Well I suppose if gas is not a state of matter, then water and ice are probably not related. Which means the water disappeared and was replaced by magic ice. The ice may have been made from haki too, since Oda didn't say the ice wasn't made from haki.
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Lets drop the Ice and talk about the sudden tragedy of two kings being turned into toys. I can see that being some sort of childrens fable.
edit: if you cut out the pages were Law gets decapitated by Doflamingo
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Fork now u really outdid yourself haha.
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I don't think Law will die since it would be for nothing, but i don't see this being the end of DD! His death won't bring anything new to the strawhats..
Maybe it will be the end of DD the underworld Joker and King of dressrosa, maybe even loose his shishibukai (or something) title, but not his death or his end in this history!
This will be one of the best arcs ever imo!
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On November 01 2013 10:17 KazeHydra wrote:
Well I suppose if gas is not a state of matter, then water and ice are probably not related. Which means the water disappeared and was replaced by magic ice. The ice may have been made from haki too, since Oda didn't say the ice wasn't made from haki.
hahaha nice one
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Well if Oda didn't say the ice wasn't made from haki then Oda is wrong.
Oda is wrong should really be the thread title, btw.
Care to explain the vacuum layered Kubo ice thing? I don't read bleach anymore, but I still enjoy Kubo's bad writing. Like the time travelling sword. Or retconning Ichigo's past again.
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On November 01 2013 22:07 Mataza wrote:
Care to explain the vacuum layered Kubo ice thing? I don't read bleach anymore, but I still enjoy Kubo's bad writing. Like the time travelling sword. Or retconning Ichigo's past again.
Shortly:
+ Show Spoiler +Half the captains of the Gotei 13 lost their bankai to the Quincy, and thus they had to train their Shikai to at least have some power left. Hitsugaya fights a fire dude, and since he doesn't have a lot of ice (no bankai), he created an ice shield with layers of vacuum inside.
Since fire is stopped by those vacuum layers - Kubo's logic - Hitsugaya doesn't need a lot of ice to fight.
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On November 01 2013 22:12 Lysteria wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 22:07 Mataza wrote:
Care to explain the vacuum layered Kubo ice thing? I don't read bleach anymore, but I still enjoy Kubo's bad writing. Like the time travelling sword. Or retconning Ichigo's past again. Shortly: + Show Spoiler +Half the captains of the Gotei 13 lost their bankai to the Quincy, and thus they had to train their Shikai to at least have some power left. Hitsugaya fights a fire dude, and since he doesn't have a lot of ice (no bankai), he created an ice shield with layers of vacuum inside.
Since fire is stopped by those vacuum layers - Kubo's logic - Hitsugaya doesn't need a lot of ice to fight.
Thanks.
I can feel my mind expanding from Kubo's logic.
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