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On October 30 2013 00:35 XiaoJoyce- wrote:I feel the power of the good.  All having same agenda. Doflamingo ! There is the flower country, the Navy along with legendary pirate who got his head back. There is the one with a King Punch. and his army There is King Riku, and old soldier and toys. There is the dwarf, there is Shichibukai Law. There is even bartolomeo , destroyed vice admiral, defended king punch, and can be both a evil A&&hole and cute fanBOY at the same time. Of course, there is the 2 years training Luffy & Zoro and Sanji and the General Franky. :D I almost forgot Rebecca , maybe I should mention Violet, and maybe the spring guy might be turned to good (forgot his name) With so many strong guys behind Strawhat this time, I know doflamingo and his minion is strong. Haha, every week of reading One piece I will be so hyped about this strong group of people challenge Doflamingo & his guys. Hey, the legendary pirate (along with his God head) challenged Garp b4. He lost apparently, but hey, opponent is Hero Garp. Bartolomeo is oso hyped too, so far he is very impressive. Others, of course waiting for Zoro and Luffy in action haha. Sanji? For some reason I am less hyped about him...  I used to hyped Sanji Zoro and Luffy . Like the CP9 Saga. Still, I want him to redeem himself. And I hope it is against doflamingo. Maybe not outward destroy him and become invincible. But some payback would be nice . Seriously I want some power up. The diable jamble is getting less interesting..Super Saiyan Sanji is something I imagine since I watch the youtube video. At least compared to Zoro Asura. He didnt even use it yet he still show epicness. .
Bellamy as well..
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Bellamy is the spring guy.
The farther One Piece goes, the more epic Garp becomes, somehow.
Probably because His Legendary Fist ended a (in my opinion stupid) discussion about devil fruits in this thread.
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On October 30 2013 00:27 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 00:09 Ultraliskhero wrote:
Doflo, Joker of the underworld is starting to feel like Joker. (from Batman) i've had that impression since punk hazard, honestly oda should have chosen another name
It's to stay consistent to the playing cards theme of the Doflamingo family, with the seat of Hearts, Diamonds, Spades, and Clubs. Doflamingo is the head of the deck, the Joker
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Who do you think Hack is working for? He snuck in a Den Den mushi, and is seen reporting to someone about the existence of the pit. I think he's probably either working for the Marines or a 3rd party.
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On October 30 2013 03:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Who do you think Hack is working for? He snuck in a Den Den mushi, and is seen reporting to someone about the existence of the pit. I think he's probably either working for the Marines or a 3rd party.
maybe Kaidou is planning to cut out the middle man
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I want Sanji to pwn ass. I'd really like Oda to get Sanji out of his funny role and make him a fighter as strong as Zoro and Luffy now. So far we haven't seen much from him ever since the time skip.
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On October 30 2013 03:41 Eshra wrote:I want Sanji to pwn ass. I'd really like Oda to get Sanji out of his funny role and make him a fighter as strong as Zoro and Luffy now. So far we haven't seen much from him ever since the time skip.
he was pre-time skip and im sure he still is he just needs to kick someones ass to prove it
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Sanji has long lost the title of being a rival to Zoro. During the CP9 saga, it was heavily implied that Sanji is just below Zero by a tiny margain (10 or so difference in douriki between Kaku and Jyabura). Now it's just Oda making fun of Sanji, losing to Vergo badly (inb4 someone says "b-but they didn't even fight and Sanji would pwn him surely!", yeah, no. A fracture to Sanji's leg is like 1 or 2 broken swords for Zoro. And now Doflamingo pwning him easily. In contrast, Zoro constantly gives off the aura that he's unbeatable after the timeskip. Hopefully Oda does something for Sanji to regain his position, because I really like him too, but AS HE IS PORTRAYED NOW, he's nowhere near Zoro.
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^Only has he's portrayed though, though I agree with you. None of the straw hats have gone all out as of yet however.
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Maybe it's the fire fruit.. that would be a heck of a power up! even if they lose another swimmer.. if they add jimbei later they will have the most powerfull "sea water" fighter of the world :D
BTW Vergo is that strong.. he kicked smoker's ass..
and DD is one of the strongest pirates in the world, a sichibukai and a king.. If he was defeated by Luffy's cook, it would be very stupid!
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Tbh I don't see Luffy doing anything against Doflamingo at the moment. At least I hope.
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Don't forget that Oda went into a more supporting role with Sanji even during the timeskip. Sanji learned how to cook to strengthen the crew, etc. while Zoro probably spent every single minute becoming a freaking destroyer. It's also not uncommon for Oda to have a clear second in command - it's that way with most of his big crews. Roger had Rayleigh, Shanks has Ben Beckman, Whitebeard had Marco.
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On October 30 2013 04:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Don't forget that Oda went into a more supporting role with Sanji even during the timeskip. Sanji learned how to cook to strengthen the crew, etc. while Zoro probably spent every single minute becoming a freaking destroyer. It's also not uncommon for Oda to have a clear second in command - it's that way with most of his big crews. Roger had Rayleigh, Shanks has Ben Beckman, Whitebeard had Marco.
Blackbeard has Shiryuu now probably (swordsman). I agree with this point. Still, it would be a shame to have sanji not be just half a notch under Zoro, so I still see him as part of the monster trio. He'll have his moments, but Zoro has been number 2 ever since he joined Luffy (first crew member, remember that).
Also noteworthy is that Luffy didn't beat Morgan when Zoro joined Luffy; Zoro took care of Morgan himself. This isn't the case of the other straw hats; Nami/arlong, usopp/glasses guy, franky/robin/cp9, sanji/donkrieg, brook/moria, chopper/wapol. Only Zoro didn't really need the help, I find that that's as sure an indication you could get that Zoro is indeed number 2.
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Didn't Zoro also defeat base hody in water or something? So hes also the only strawhat other than Luffy to beat the main boss of an arc.
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awesome chapter, I really love these where Oda explains the history.
Also that beautiful Colorspread. Nami and Robin blossomed quite nicely...
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Honestly it wouldn't be fair to Zoro/Luffy if Sanji was still around their level. While Zoro and Luffy focused on fighting/haki, Sanji focused on cooking with some fighting. It'd completely undermine all their training for him to be on the same level as them now.
Granted, he's still part of the "monster trio", and his rivalry with Zoro was never the two of them going all out, so that can still happen.
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I assume that Rebecca's Mum was the daughter of the king and not the toy soldier because he mentons Rebecca to be a blodd relative to the king but "only" says that he's not Rebecca's dad.
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On October 30 2013 05:04 AsnSensation wrote:
I assume that Rebecca's Mum was the daughter of the king and not the toy soldier because he mentons Rebecca to be a blodd relative to the king but "only" says that he's not Rebecca's dad.
Isn't it said that the toy soldier is father of rebecca, king being grandfather of rebecca, therefore the king is the father or father in law of the toy soldier.
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On September 11 2013 04:57 Zeo1990 wrote:
Alright speculation time:
Mr Soilder is NOT King Riku, hes Rebeccas REAL father which would have made him a Prince (although I think her mother was the more direct lineage and her father married into royalty but i digress its not too important). Anyway, he was originally human, turned into a toy and came back to his daughter after his wife got killed by DF.
Why did Rebecca say her mother was her only family? Because her memory of her father was erased like Mr Soilder mentioned a few chapters ago, so her memeroies of her father are now GONE. Which would mean this flashback in intentionally inacurrate because of the memory motherfuckery that results from being turned into a toy.
So where is the real King Riku you ask? Why i believe hes clearly the masked gladiator Ricky or course! (RIKu/RIKy?) Hes clearly very old and we already had breif flashbacck where we saw Ricky and Rebecca together. This explains why hes so set on keeping the mask on. Because he would being fucking lynched on sight for teh shit he suposedly did (which was probably a set up by DF but we'll see)
CALLED IT!!! i r SMRT =D
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On October 30 2013 05:14 betaflame wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 05:04 AsnSensation wrote:
I assume that Rebecca's Mum was the daughter of the king and not the toy soldier because he mentons Rebecca to be a blodd relative to the king but "only" says that he's not Rebecca's dad. Isn't it said that the toy soldier is father of rebecca, king being grandfather of rebecca, therefore the king is the father or father in law of the toy soldier.
unless you completely ignore that it takes 2 people to create a baby you're right ^^
but my point is that even if the bloodline is Riku > Rebecca's Mum > Rebecca, toy soldier could still be her father.
But it seems like all 3 of them seem to use unique 1 sword no shield style it seems likely that toy soldier is also the king's son and I'm just seeing things.
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