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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 12 2013 10:55 GMT
#7461
On May 12 2013 18:41 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 17:39 GettingIt wrote:
If theres anything that I learned from literature class is that nothing a good writer does is arbitrary.

Well, I wouldn't give too much about school classes. Literature is a creative art, after all.
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Yes, Oda is a master of storytelling, I believe some things are still done at a whim without deeper meaning. Like Gaimon, the dude that's stuck in a box in East Blue. That guy's appearance was completely arbitrary.


This image is gold and relects 100% what I was thinking during my 8 years of highschool where I was forced to interpret Goethe, Schiller and co. work.
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
May 12 2013 12:24 GMT
#7462
On May 12 2013 19:47 Musicus wrote:
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On May 12 2013 02:48 ore0z wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:35 ore0z wrote:
On March 28 2013 03:10 Superouman wrote:
Hahahaha this is so much the World Tournament in Dragonball Z. I love it

[image loading]
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I posted this awhile back. I don't think its a reference to Lucy from fairy tail since its just by name. The whole tournament, using a fake name, and hiding in disguise is actually a dragonball reference

Master yoshi went under disguise in a tournament imitating a jackie chan name i think


Yep this is definitely a dragonball reference, as many things are a tribute to dragonball in One Piece. Oda always said he is a huge Dragonball fan and his dream always was to create a work just as great (I would say he succeded with One Piece).

Well he shouldn't be so modest, his work is above and beyond any manga ever created.
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
May 12 2013 12:26 GMT
#7463
On May 12 2013 18:41 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 17:39 GettingIt wrote:
If theres anything that I learned from literature class is that nothing a good writer does is arbitrary.

Well, I wouldn't give too much about school classes. Literature is a creative art, after all.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Yes, Oda is a master of storytelling, I believe some things are still done at a whim without deeper meaning. Like Gaimon, the dude that's stuck in a box in East Blue. That guy's appearance was completely arbitrary.

I don't think everything has a deeper meaning in one piece, but the amount of detail and the way oda keeps bringing back seemingly unimportant stuff constantly blows my mind.
He really is a master of storytelling.
mavignon
Profile Joined November 2010
France369 Posts
May 12 2013 13:41 GMT
#7464
On May 12 2013 17:20 yrt123 wrote:
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On May 12 2013 02:02 mavignon wrote:
But don't get me wrong, Oda has a immense manga culture, but it's more about techniques. How to build a story, character development, climax development, drawing techniques, old and current authors, what's their styles, what projects do they work on, how do they do in their publications or in book sales, etc.

Does he know about the weekly plot development of all serialized mangas in Japan? He has nothing to learn from it. If anything, it could be bad influence on how he builds himself stories. Oda does not take advice from his own editors, I can't picture him secretly reading mangas to "learn" techniques or "get ideas".

While he knows a thousand times more than all of us together about techniques and the manga industry, I am pretty sure that most of us know more about the actual stories and plot developments in other mangas than him.


Not taking the advice directly doesn't mean he's completely ignoring everything. If you can show me a source saying he doesn't give a single fuck about the advice from editors I'll concede. As for whether he reads manga or not again I highly doubt he does not currently read even a single work of other mangaka. Would be pretty conceited of him to think he knows everything and there is nothing to learn.


I don't think I have said he reads no manga at all or that, I just think he reads much less than the casual manga fan, and I don't think Fairy Tail is one the few mangas he reads, that's all.

About editors, Oda and his editors themselves have stated he does not take advice on the story. But he does listen about details like character design, etc. And that was not always the case, at the beginning, like all young authors, he used to do what editors told him to do (like "we must be at grand line by chapter 100" hence the 4-chapter arc of Logue Town). Now, like other popular authors, he has much more freedom.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 12 2013 14:08 GMT
#7465
Oda and Mashima (fairy tail's mangaka) worked together as assistants in Rurouni Kenshin so it's not that farfetched that he'd read FT.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 12 2013 14:35 GMT
#7466
On May 12 2013 23:08 hooahah wrote:
Oda and Mashima (fairy tail's mangaka) worked together as assistants in Rurouni Kenshin so it's not that farfetched that he'd read FT.


Oh Oda used to work for Kenshin? That's one of my favourite manga of all time...
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 12 2013 14:52 GMT
#7467
yeah, the RK mangaka even put in a little nod to OP when it started

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[image loading]
mavignon
Profile Joined November 2010
France369 Posts
May 12 2013 15:03 GMT
#7468
On May 12 2013 23:08 hooahah wrote:
Oda and Mashima (fairy tail's mangaka) worked together as assistants in Rurouni Kenshin so it's not that farfetched that he'd read FT.


As far as I know Mashima has never been anybody's assistant. I think it is just a rumor because Oda's and Mashima's art styles are similar.
mavignon
Profile Joined November 2010
France369 Posts
May 12 2013 15:04 GMT
#7469
On May 12 2013 23:52 hooahah wrote:
yeah, the RK mangaka even put in a little nod to OP when it started

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Good example of an unambiguous reference
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 12 2013 17:22 GMT
#7470
huh, you're right. Wiki says he (Mashima) never worked as an assistant.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
May 12 2013 19:16 GMT
#7471
Even if he doesnt read manga to copy them, he has to atleast know what he's doing is original. So yes he does have to read to know he's which/either. Basics guys, you can worship him as god but reading other mangakas work is nothing to be ashamed off.

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Go read Takehiko Inoue work if you want to read the work of god =D REAL.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 15 2013 07:59 GMT
#7472
709 is out now, but I can't find Engrish. I guess I should just be patient. :p

Has anyone here ever just said "fk it" and looked at the Japanese release?
maru lover forever
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
May 15 2013 08:17 GMT
#7473
I read the spoilers every week, its habit now
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Lovedrop
Profile Joined April 2010
2629 Posts
May 15 2013 09:26 GMT
#7474
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/709
Writerundefeated thunderdome champion 。゚+.(o´・ω・`o)+.゚。イィ!! :+:+: @lubdrop
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 15 2013 09:37 GMT
#7475
Since it just came out I'll put this in a spoiler:

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The block ended as expected, though I was hoping for more from Bellamy.

It was cute how Luffy cheered for him =3

Hoping for a small break from the tournament next week. Seems like they'll be setting up Franky's movements now.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 15 2013 09:38 GMT
#7476
On May 15 2013 17:17 Scaramanga wrote:
I read the spoilers every week, its habit now


Damn you was getting rid of this habit but you somehow talked me i o it with this post cause i was bored in class

Barto is epic and luffy cheering on bellamy super sweet hehe

Finally we back on the mainplot, seems like fairies an toys were originally the dressrosa inhabitants then dd came took reign
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 09:53:19
May 15 2013 09:50 GMT
#7477
+ Show Spoiler +
So how do you beat a barrier man? Enh, silly block. Looking forward to see Lucy kick some ass. There's no doubt he'll win his block (I mean, I hope there's no doubt). The way I see it is that he'll win his block but he'll pay for it somehow. Probably through the revelation of his identity, which isn't a good thing for him.

The entire arc seems to have a great plot but holy shit, what a very long wait to read everything. I mean, what's going on with Zoro and Sanji? What is Law doing at the moment? What's going on on the ship?
maru lover forever
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 15 2013 09:55 GMT
#7478
Shit, I should wait for a better translation because this was a bit of a mess but seems like an awesome chapter!
The heart's eternal vow
1oo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal876 Posts
May 15 2013 09:56 GMT
#7479
gooo Bartolomeo! hahaha.
At the top of the game, we play by diferent rules.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
May 15 2013 10:12 GMT
#7480
NOOOOOO BELLLAMY
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