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One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
you can fight with a sword but not be a swordsman, Law fights with a sword, but is nota swordsman
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On April 25 2013 09:48 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time. Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm.
This was the argument I was trying to make.
Shanks is still considered on Whitebeard's level even without his arm, and he managed to stop the marineford war. Take into account that he lost his dominant arm, his crew is one ship and that Mihawks slash didn't phase Jozu and its not that baseless that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk currently.
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On April 25 2013 12:08 ore0z wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:48 Zambrah wrote:On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time. Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm. This was the argument I was trying to make. Shanks is still considered on Whitebeard's level even without his arm, and he managed to stop the marineford war. Take into account that he lost his dominant arm, his crew is one ship and that Mihawks slash didn't phase Jozu and its not that baseless that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk currently.
I feel, yonko is a status, right?
Just like how Vice admiral Garp could be as strong as an admiral. Let's ignore the age issue.
Imagine Garp just turned down his admiral promotion @ his peak. He is vice admiral status, but he can be stronger than admiral or even FLEET admiral or ... maybe maybe .. strongest? hahahaha
Maybe Mihawk pusue perfection in skill instead of building up his status, because he feels he can do anything without yonko status.
If luffy dream is being King of the pirate, have to defeat the 4 emperors,
Then Zoro dream of defeating the best swordsman, couldn't be weaker than one of the emperor.
Then it is pointless, where after zoro defeat mihawk he still have the 4 emperors to overcome... one of them is a swordsman I guess.
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On April 25 2013 14:38 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 12:08 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 09:48 Zambrah wrote:On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time. Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm. This was the argument I was trying to make. Shanks is still considered on Whitebeard's level even without his arm, and he managed to stop the marineford war. Take into account that he lost his dominant arm, his crew is one ship and that Mihawks slash didn't phase Jozu and its not that baseless that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk currently. I feel, yonko is a status, right? Just like how Vice admiral Garp could be as strong as an admiral. Let's ignore the age issue. Imagine Garp just turned down his admiral promotion @ his peak. He is vice admiral status, but he can be stronger than admiral or even FLEET admiral or ... maybe maybe .. strongest? hahahaha Maybe Mihawk pusue perfection in skill instead of building up his status, because he feels he can do anything without yonko status. If luffy dream is being King of the pirate, have to defeat the 4 emperors, Then Zoro dream of defeating the best swordsman, couldn't be weaker than one of the emperor. Then it is pointless, where after zoro defeat mihawk he still have the 4 emperors to overcome... one of them is a swordsman I guess.
unlikely, we know Blackbeard isnt a swordsman, Big Mam almsot certainly isnt, Shanks is luffys fight so that leaves Kaidou who there currently conspiring against
mihawk will definently be Zoros final boss
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On April 25 2013 14:38 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 12:08 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 09:48 Zambrah wrote:On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time. Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm. This was the argument I was trying to make. Shanks is still considered on Whitebeard's level even without his arm, and he managed to stop the marineford war. Take into account that he lost his dominant arm, his crew is one ship and that Mihawks slash didn't phase Jozu and its not that baseless that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk currently. I feel, yonko is a status, right? Just like how Vice admiral Garp could be as strong as an admiral. Let's ignore the age issue. Imagine Garp just turned down his admiral promotion @ his peak. He is vice admiral status, but he can be stronger than admiral or even FLEET admiral or ... maybe maybe .. strongest? hahahaha Maybe Mihawk pusue perfection in skill instead of building up his status, because he feels he can do anything without yonko status. If luffy dream is being King of the pirate, have to defeat the 4 emperors, Then Zoro dream of defeating the best swordsman, couldn't be weaker than one of the emperor. Then it is pointless, where after zoro defeat mihawk he still have the 4 emperors to overcome... one of them is a swordsman I guess.
I'm sure I remember reading that Mihawk used to duel Shanks before he lost his arm, presumably to a draw if Mihawk was considered the strongest.
I guess the cool thing is, we don't really know.
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Olli
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Silly people. Oda has stated numerous times that he regrets taking Shanks' arm and that Shanks did not lose any strength losing his arm. Which means he's still as strong as he used to be, possibly even stronger now since we haven't seen any other abilities from him yet except that he seems to have ridiculously strong haki.
When Mihawk duelled with Vista, the swordsman from Whitebeard's crew, they called it a draw. Mihawk is not Yonkou level. He's the strongest swordsman in the world, yes. But at this point it's likely that every Yonkou has other abilities as well, otherwise they'd just be outclassed by people with Devil Fruits + Haki such as the Admirals.
The Yonkou were supposed to be rather equal in strength with Whitebeard being called the strongest among them. Whitebeard almost sunk Marineford alone while the whole force of the Marines + Shichibukai was present. Even if Shanks is a "level" below Whitebeard, which I don't think he is, he'd still be stronger than Mihawk or any Shichibukai probably.
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On April 25 2013 15:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Silly people. Oda has stated numerous times that he regrets taking Shanks' arm and that Shanks did not lose any strength losing his arm. Which means he's still as strong as he used to be, possibly even stronger now since we haven't seen any other abilities from him yet except that he seems to have ridiculously strong haki.
When Mihawk duelled with Vista, the swordsman from Whitebeard's crew, they called it a draw. Mihawk is not Yonkou level. He's the strongest swordsman in the world, yes. But at this point it's likely that every Yonkou has other abilities as well, otherwise they'd just be outclassed by people with Devil Fruits + Haki such as the Admirals.
The Yonkou were supposed to be rather equal in strength with Whitebeard being called the strongest among them. Whitebeard almost sunk Marineford alone while the whole force of the Marines + Shichibukai was present. Even if Shanks is a "level" below Whitebeard, which I don't think he is, he'd still be stronger than Mihawk or any Shichibukai probably.
That's what i thought too after reading the marineford war arc. Mihawk is at best at the same level of whitebeard's division captains or captain/s from other yonkou, like the dude who can stop kizaru with a pistol.
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On April 25 2013 18:55 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 15:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Silly people. Oda has stated numerous times that he regrets taking Shanks' arm and that Shanks did not lose any strength losing his arm. Which means he's still as strong as he used to be, possibly even stronger now since we haven't seen any other abilities from him yet except that he seems to have ridiculously strong haki.
When Mihawk duelled with Vista, the swordsman from Whitebeard's crew, they called it a draw. Mihawk is not Yonkou level. He's the strongest swordsman in the world, yes. But at this point it's likely that every Yonkou has other abilities as well, otherwise they'd just be outclassed by people with Devil Fruits + Haki such as the Admirals.
The Yonkou were supposed to be rather equal in strength with Whitebeard being called the strongest among them. Whitebeard almost sunk Marineford alone while the whole force of the Marines + Shichibukai was present. Even if Shanks is a "level" below Whitebeard, which I don't think he is, he'd still be stronger than Mihawk or any Shichibukai probably. That's what i thought too after reading the marineford war arc. Mihawk is at best at the same level of whitebeard's division captains, like the dude who can stop kizaru with a pistol.
Said dude who can stop Kizaru with a pistol is part of Shank's crew and is his first mate.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On April 25 2013 19:20 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 18:55 BurningSera wrote:On April 25 2013 15:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Silly people. Oda has stated numerous times that he regrets taking Shanks' arm and that Shanks did not lose any strength losing his arm. Which means he's still as strong as he used to be, possibly even stronger now since we haven't seen any other abilities from him yet except that he seems to have ridiculously strong haki.
When Mihawk duelled with Vista, the swordsman from Whitebeard's crew, they called it a draw. Mihawk is not Yonkou level. He's the strongest swordsman in the world, yes. But at this point it's likely that every Yonkou has other abilities as well, otherwise they'd just be outclassed by people with Devil Fruits + Haki such as the Admirals.
The Yonkou were supposed to be rather equal in strength with Whitebeard being called the strongest among them. Whitebeard almost sunk Marineford alone while the whole force of the Marines + Shichibukai was present. Even if Shanks is a "level" below Whitebeard, which I don't think he is, he'd still be stronger than Mihawk or any Shichibukai probably. That's what i thought too after reading the marineford war arc. Mihawk is at best at the same level of whitebeard's division captains, like the dude who can stop kizaru with a pistol. Said dude who can stop Kizaru with a pistol is part of Shank's crew and is his first mate.
Ben Beckman is a badass. I was really impressed when Kizaru actually put his hands up. Gave me chills.
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What's with Marco and the Whitebeards anyway?
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On April 25 2013 19:20 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 18:55 BurningSera wrote:On April 25 2013 15:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Silly people. Oda has stated numerous times that he regrets taking Shanks' arm and that Shanks did not lose any strength losing his arm. Which means he's still as strong as he used to be, possibly even stronger now since we haven't seen any other abilities from him yet except that he seems to have ridiculously strong haki.
When Mihawk duelled with Vista, the swordsman from Whitebeard's crew, they called it a draw. Mihawk is not Yonkou level. He's the strongest swordsman in the world, yes. But at this point it's likely that every Yonkou has other abilities as well, otherwise they'd just be outclassed by people with Devil Fruits + Haki such as the Admirals.
The Yonkou were supposed to be rather equal in strength with Whitebeard being called the strongest among them. Whitebeard almost sunk Marineford alone while the whole force of the Marines + Shichibukai was present. Even if Shanks is a "level" below Whitebeard, which I don't think he is, he'd still be stronger than Mihawk or any Shichibukai probably. That's what i thought too after reading the marineford war arc. Mihawk is at best at the same level of whitebeard's division captains, like the dude who can stop kizaru with a pistol. Said dude who can stop Kizaru with a pistol is part of Shank's crew and is his first mate.
LOL my memory sucks. but point is still there i guess xD
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On April 25 2013 19:28 PVJ wrote:
What's with Marco and the Whitebeards anyway?
At the very very latest they'll be around when Luffy fights Blackbeard.
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On April 25 2013 10:13 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:48 zeropoint wrote:On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. You never know. Maybe after losing his arm, he developed his other abilities in such a way that he's now stronger than he was before. oda always regretted taking away redhead's arm
Really? Source?
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On April 25 2013 09:48 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time. Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm.
How do you know that Shanks wasn't a Yonko when he lost his arm ? (btw it's quite ridiculous that someone as powerful loses his arm to a weak creature ><)
And Mihawk said that now that Shanks lost his arm a fight wouldn't be fair.
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On April 27 2013 21:08 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:48 Zambrah wrote:On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time. Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm. How do you know that Shanks wasn't a Yonko when he lost his arm ? (btw it's quite ridiculous that someone as powerful loses his arm to a weak creature ><) And Mihawk said that now that Shanks lost his arm a fight wouldn't be fair.
Man, its been mentioned many times that Oda regrets having Shanks losing an arm. He already admitted it was a mistake, can we get over it? No need to keep repeating the same thing over and over and over.
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On April 25 2013 23:11 mavignon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 10:13 flamewheel wrote:On April 25 2013 09:48 zeropoint wrote:On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. You never know. Maybe after losing his arm, he developed his other abilities in such a way that he's now stronger than he was before. oda always regretted taking away redhead's arm Really? Source?
not surprised to hear if it is true, i always hated the fact that shanks had no left arm. imagine how badass he would be if he wasnt a cripple
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On April 27 2013 21:20 []Phase[] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 21:08 Lylat wrote:On April 25 2013 09:48 Zambrah wrote:On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time. Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm. How do you know that Shanks wasn't a Yonko when he lost his arm ? (btw it's quite ridiculous that someone as powerful loses his arm to a weak creature ><) And Mihawk said that now that Shanks lost his arm a fight wouldn't be fair. Man, its been mentioned many times that Oda regrets having Shanks losing an arm. He already admitted it was a mistake, can we get over it? No need to keep repeating the same thing over and over and over.
Can you post a source on this?
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On April 27 2013 21:08 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 09:48 Zambrah wrote:On April 25 2013 09:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 09:05 ore0z wrote:On April 25 2013 08:46 killa_robot wrote:On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote:
One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai.
The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that?
Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?! I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power. Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now. So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured? What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense. Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time. Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm. How do you know that Shanks wasn't a Yonko when he lost his arm ? (btw it's quite ridiculous that someone as powerful loses his arm to a weak creature ><) And Mihawk said that now that Shanks lost his arm a fight wouldn't be fair.
Shanks lost his arm during very early one piece.
One piece is 10 years & more in the making.
Maybe at that point of time Oda didnt establish how strong Sea king is, how strong yonko is,
Maybe at that point of time Oda meant shank as luffy savior, didnt plan him as Yonko yet..
I dont noe, I just feel it is hard to be so far sighted to plan a story which could be drawn a lifetime.
So it feels ridiculous, for Shanks to lose an arm to sea king right now.
But tink years 10 years back, back when I was still in mid sch.
Sea King is considered very strong and Shank have to save luffy.
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I've been thinking about the discussion you guys are having and maybe there is a retcon Oda could do, but of course, it would be a twist that may not be believable for all.
Shanks didn't enable haki in general because he didn't have full control of it yet at that time when he tried to save luffy. He was afraid of accidentally activating conqueror's haki which could "Hurt" luffy and causing him to faint so he just sacrificed his arm in the process.
You are also all arguing about the "power level" of Mihawk against pre-Yonkou Shanks, but wouldn't it be unrealistic to assume that Mihawk didn't grow strong as well during that time? He simple hasn't challenged Shanks or is known to have fought with Shanks yet when he is at Yonkou Level at this point. So there is no way for us to know which one of them is stronger.
As for Luffy or Zoro. I honestly am of the belief that Zoro is actually stronger than Luffy and he simply chooses to follow Luffy. As I recall, he mentions in one of the chapters that if Luffy did something he would leave (I really forgot which chapter that was so please do bear with me). Also, he was able to take Luffy's damage which knocked Luffy out cold and brought him to the point of dying when they battled Kuma, and he took all the damage simultaneously not in stages, so that counts for something as well.
Just because you are the leader doesn't mean you are the strongest. I think that is one of the things that are great about One Piece. Our heroes don't always win, and they aren't on the typical typecasted path of shounen characters with nakama powers (DBZ, Naruto etc). Dominance is not necessarily the objective as shown by One Piece characters. Whitebeard, Shanks and Luffy don't seem to dominate the places they end up raising their flag onto or visit. Exactly the opposite of what you'd expect from pirates which are shown by acts of Big Mam and Kaidou are the other part of the Yonkou Group.
But that's my take on it. And I am enjoying the ride with what Oda is showing us. =)
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While I totaly aggree with your point of view, Luffy one-shotting that same sea king as soon as he leaves his island doesn't make that same sea king look so dangerous after all. 
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