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On April 25 2013 04:22 AsnSensation wrote: the mangarule translation is: "BUt he's just got a big sword, like a samurai from Wano Kuni or something"
In general mangarule seems to be acknowledged as the best translations, at least in the few mangaforums I frequent, but they are usually even slower than mangastream. but I'd definitely recommend to read their version if you got the urge to reread the current chapter during thursday-tuesday :D
I usually read both translations and I'd say the mangastream translation is better. Better english and few things don't make much sense in the mangarule translation.
Example from this week's chapter, fishman Hack's speech:
I don't want to make this into an argument, but imagine this...
What if Zoro is actually now stronger than Luffy?
I honestly expect the following to happen eventually (idea totally jacked from DBZ):
1. Zoro gets mind-controlled by some enemy 2. Luffy and Zoro fight 3. Luffy gets defeated (maybe because he doesn't want to fight to the death)
After all... once a crew starts getting too powerful, a common trick is to have them fight each other. And we have no idea how strong Luffy and Zoro actually are yet, after the powerup.
I honestly 100% expect that a Zoro VS Luffy fight will happen eventually... because it's just way too enticing. For a writer, it must just be sitting there like a nice plump fruit.
I just thought that Zoro defeating Luffy would be an awesome way to stop the idea that Luffy always is the stronger one. However, as I said before, I know this is unlikely, especially since Luffy was trained by Raleigh and Zoro only had Mihawk, who is possibly weaker than all the Yonkou and probably the Admirals.
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power.
Nice catch!! The number should be an obvious hint related to something we know but i cant remember what was that.
And Luffy stronger than Zoro to me, i always get that hint/indication from the chapters but i know it is never officially stated. I thought that it is understood (to me).
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power.
Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now.
I actually believe mihawk is yonkou level (one on one, fighting strength), he just doesnt care about One Piece or a crew, I wonder what his motivation is
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I think mihawk would win a sword fight but just might suffer if other abilities are thrown into the mix too. For example, Kizaru can make a sword with his ability so if Mihawk and him just fought sword alone Mihawk would win but throw in the ability for kizaru to say blind or use his ability to quickly move to other side of Mihawk then maybe that changes the outcome. That's my theory anyway
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I think he is as strong as a yonkou, but he just doesn't have a crew or the influence of one. I think he just likes to have good fights which is why he would duel with shanks until he lost his arm. He also seems to enjoy the idea that one day zoro might be an opponent to him which is something he seems to look forward to
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power.
Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now.
So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured?
What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense.
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power.
Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now.
So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured?
What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense.
Its perfectly likely that Shanks IS stronger despite the lost arm. Keep in mind that Shanks lost that arm long before One Piece got going with Luffy's pirate journey, and it seems doubtful that Shanks was a Yonkou at that time.
Its actually pretty probable that Shanks is stronger despite the lost arm.
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power.
Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now.
So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured?
What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense.
You never know. Maybe after losing his arm, he developed his other abilities in such a way that he's now stronger than he was before.
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power.
Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now.
So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured?
What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense.
titles in one piece does not euqal strength, Mihawk is stronger than Shanks, he stop dueling shanks after he lost an arm because Mihawk doesn't wanna hurt Shank's ego. if you dispute the fact that titles does not equal strength in one piece all you have to do is look at boggy with the same title as Mihawk. There are ppl with huge bounty yet fighting ability isn't on part with the bounty like Robin had higher bounty than Luffy when they meet. The only way to know who's stronger is when oda make them fight each other, before blackbread raped ace, ace had much higher bounty and fame than the unknown that was blackbread.
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power.
Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now.
So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured?
What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense.
You never know. Maybe after losing his arm, he developed his other abilities in such a way that he's now stronger than he was before.
On April 25 2013 08:43 Zephirdd wrote: One thing I've been thinking...
Since the beginning of OP, Mihawk had a title other than Shichibukai. The Strongest Swordsman in the World.
Think about it. Mihawk is the strongest. How strong is that? Shanks and Rayleigh are both swordsmen.
In fact, the title of "swordsman" is something really common in One Piece. Now consider that we never saw Mihawk going serious mode. In fact we know nearly nothing of Mihawk's powers.
How strong is that guy?!
I'm guessing he's about Yonko level, he just doesn't care about using his power.
Probably not equal footing as a yonkou. Shanks and Mihawk used to be on equal footing, but that was before Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is probably well above his power despite that loss by now.
So, Mihawk and Shanks used to be equal in power. Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is now a Yonko. Mihawk is somehow weaker than a Yonko, when he was equal to Shanks (who is not a Yonko), BEFORE he was injured?
What? Unless you're saying something baseless like Shanks is stronger after losing his arm, that makes no sense.
titles in one piece does not euqal strength, Mihawk is stronger than Shanks, he stop dueling shanks after he lost an arm because Mihawk doesn't wanna hurt Shank's ego. if you dispute the fact that titles does not equal strength in one piece all you have to do is look at boggy with the same title as Mihawk. There are ppl with huge bounty yet fighting ability isn't on part with the bounty like Robin had higher bounty than Luffy when they meet. The only way to know who's stronger is when oda make them fight each other, before blackbread raped ace, ace had much higher bounty and fame than the unknown that was blackbread.
Shanks was able to stop the marineford war, so I think it's a safe assumption he's strong enough to be considered "Yonko" status (which most see as basically admiral level at least). His acts matter more than his title.
not saying Shanks doesn't deserve his Yonko status, i'm saying Mihawk is stronger than Yonko Shanks 1vs1. shanks have his crew thou, Mihawk is one man army
Nice catch!! The number should be an obvious hint related to something we know but i cant remember what was that.
And Luffy stronger than Zoro to me, i always get that hint/indication from the chapters but i know it is never officially stated. I thought that it is understood (to me).
While this theory about Chinjao being in Kaido's crew is certainly possible, I get the impression that the numbers are not related. First of all, the numbers on Chinjao and his buddies from Flower Country are in a different fontwork than the number on the cyborg guy (they are squarer, and have a thicker line on the bottom of the ones). Also, Chinjao is presented as an ex-pirate. I guess he could be some undercover agent of Kaido who's job is to spy on Doflamingo's dealings, and I'm just overanalyzing the bit with the numbers, but I'm still not convinced they are in Kaidou's crew. Also, the only member of Kaido's crew that we've seen is Scotch the cyborg, so the fact that he has a number on his body might have to do with the fact that he is a cyborg, and not with the fact that he is in Kaido's crew.
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