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As I frequent a dedicated Mangaforum I found a very interesting read
+ Show Spoiler +It's not an exact science by any means, and he actually said at least 60% through.
Reading the two editors (Takeru Isaka and Hattori Jean-Baptiste - Akira) interview couple of interesting notes
- Both editors testify they get scolded by Oda sometimes.
- Apparently when an editor is assigned to Oda, one of the first thing they experience is Oda telling them all the major secrets of One Piece, up to and incluing the end. (!!!)
....... QUICK SOMEONE KIDNAP ONE OF THESE EDITORS OR PAST EDITORS!
The editor said as a reader of OP, it's somewhat saddening to learn all the spoilers ahead of time. I can see that.
When asked what sucks about being editors, they both testified Oda's obsessive perfectionist attitude getting in the way of deadline lol.
Apparently just the other day, Oda missed the deadline and it was hell getting the chapter in time. Oda's attitude is "The chapter is done when it's done".
As for editoral inputs, Oda mostly uses the editors as "first readers to read his work". He observe the reaction of the editors as a measure of how the readers would react. They testify they don't contibute much to Oda's work, since neither of them have anywhere near the talent Oda has, and it's sometimes painful that they can only stand by and wait, unable to help, when deadline is pressing.
Hattori says the most memorable scene of OP (for the chapters he was editing) was Sabo's comment about ashamed of his birth as a noble, and Dragon's shocked reaction to have such a young child come to that conclusion. It really drove home how talented a story writer he is.
Has to suck to work as an editor for ODA because he is a god and as a hardcore One Piece fan you already know everything that will happen in the coming 10 years lol.
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On December 25 2012 07:09 AsnSensation wrote:As I frequent a dedicated Mangaforum I found a very interesting read + Show Spoiler +It's not an exact science by any means, and he actually said at least 60% through.
Reading the two editors (Takeru Isaka and Hattori Jean-Baptiste - Akira) interview couple of interesting notes
- Both editors testify they get scolded by Oda sometimes.
- Apparently when an editor is assigned to Oda, one of the first thing they experience is Oda telling them all the major secrets of One Piece, up to and incluing the end. (!!!)
....... QUICK SOMEONE KIDNAP ONE OF THESE EDITORS OR PAST EDITORS!
The editor said as a reader of OP, it's somewhat saddening to learn all the spoilers ahead of time. I can see that.
When asked what sucks about being editors, they both testified Oda's obsessive perfectionist attitude getting in the way of deadline lol.
Apparently just the other day, Oda missed the deadline and it was hell getting the chapter in time. Oda's attitude is "The chapter is done when it's done".
As for editoral inputs, Oda mostly uses the editors as "first readers to read his work". He observe the reaction of the editors as a measure of how the readers would react. They testify they don't contibute much to Oda's work, since neither of them have anywhere near the talent Oda has, and it's sometimes painful that they can only stand by and wait, unable to help, when deadline is pressing.
Hattori says the most memorable scene of OP (for the chapters he was editing) was Sabo's comment about ashamed of his birth as a noble, and Dragon's shocked reaction to have such a young child come to that conclusion. It really drove home how talented a story writer he is. Has to suck to work as an editor for ODA because he is a god and as a hardcore One Piece fan you already know everything that will happen in the coming 10 years lol.
knowing all that its kind of AMAZING that none of these secrets got leaked yet.
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I'm interested in this manga, but not ~700 chapters interested, hah. Can people recommend a place I would be able to jump in while not missing too much or is that impossible?
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It's all important and you should really read everything because there are details from much earlier chapters that you might find in next week's chapter. It's like a masterpiece. I feel that One Piece could be lenjoyed just for the "mithology" and story and not just for the powers and fight scences. It's a really wonderfull and complex world and a story that uses multiple generations and it's reaching a big climax. It's running since 1997 and i imagine it can take more then 5 years to end.
I really love it and recommend it because it's always improving and getting better. Much like the drawing, it's becoming more sharp and raw, in the beginning it was a bit childish but it's also more mature now.
Start in the begging and read a few each week, i wish i could do that 
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On December 25 2012 11:45 sixduck wrote:
I'm interested in this manga, but not ~700 chapters interested, hah. Can people recommend a place I would be able to jump in while not missing too much or is that impossible?
Start from the beginning, trust me. You'll be glad that there are 700 chapters of pure epicness. The storyline is top notch, the art is amazing, the cohesiveness and planning put into the manga is impeccable.
Plus there's absolutely no benefit in starting in the "middle" just so you can be quickly caught up. You should be reading it for your own enjoyment (which the manga provides all-throughout), not to get to the end as soon as possible.
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ya one piece is one of the best literature ever made in our generation.
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It's not necessarily too bad to skip the first few arcs and come back to them later maybe, just because the Alvida/Morgan/Buggy/Kuro chapters are a lot more silly than later arcs IMO. It might give new readers the wrong impression. Starting with Baratie or Arlong (can't go wrong with Arlong Park arc) has its perks, and you can always go back once you're hooked :p
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On December 12 2012 09:35 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 09:11 Forikorder wrote:On December 12 2012 09:04 17Sphynx17 wrote:
@Forik
Just shut it already. You claim so many things as "stated" in the manga and when proof comes to light, you backpedal and say, he didn't say it directly in the manga, but he implied it. Jeez, how far do you want to keep dragging your head in the mud just to keep up your internet fantasy of being a Shounen Manga know-it-all.
You don't have proof, that is a fact.
I will restate my example just so you don't have to go back a few pages to re-read my example.
an apple and an orange are edible and give you vitamins when you ingest them. Given that context they perform the same. The general term for them is they are fruit. But even though they are similar in that regard. They are not the same. An apple is not an orange called a different name, nor is it the other way around.
How does that apply? Rokushiki and Haki are both abilities/techniques you can use in battle. The general term is "abilities or techniques". They perform similarly but are not the same. Again, I would also go back to Rayleigh's explanation. If CP9 techniques were really Haki, then they would have been an example shown in the manga as it was a significant arc much closer to the timeline of training. Not even a snapshot of any CP9/Rokushiki user was shown there.
So unless you are Oda or have concrete proof that Oda is actually saying it is, STFU already. You are the one acting like a kid who just can't deal with the fact he was wrong or has no actual proof. You are just twisting it to fit the convenience to the hole you've already dug yourself. first of all about them being used as an example i think your timeline is completely screwed up if you think that CP9 happened between the amazon island and Rayleigh explaining Haki unless your trying to say that Enel would not have been used as the example of Observation but considering he was probably the peak of what its possible to do with Observation Haki it makes perfect sense for Luffy to strongly remember him Haki is a power that is within everyone it is not comparing apples to oranges if Rokoshiki is powered by some sort of unnatural ability and is not entirely dependant on Phyiscal strength and skill then it is powered by Haki Where the fuck did he say CP9 happened between amazon island and Rayleigh explaining haki? Second, Enel used Observation Haki because Rayleigh specifically said that Mantra in skypeia is another name for Observation Haki. If you want to be taken seriously then from now on you should only make statements that are 100% true (ie, it's stated in the manga) and leave out all of your ridiculous speculations. Nowhere in the manga does it mention that Rokoshiki is Haki so until oda puts it in the manga you should stfu about it.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ggCMr.png)
guess what just happened in the anime
LOL
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 25 2012 15:56 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 09:35 saltywet wrote:On December 12 2012 09:11 Forikorder wrote:On December 12 2012 09:04 17Sphynx17 wrote:
@Forik
Just shut it already. You claim so many things as "stated" in the manga and when proof comes to light, you backpedal and say, he didn't say it directly in the manga, but he implied it. Jeez, how far do you want to keep dragging your head in the mud just to keep up your internet fantasy of being a Shounen Manga know-it-all.
You don't have proof, that is a fact.
I will restate my example just so you don't have to go back a few pages to re-read my example.
an apple and an orange are edible and give you vitamins when you ingest them. Given that context they perform the same. The general term for them is they are fruit. But even though they are similar in that regard. They are not the same. An apple is not an orange called a different name, nor is it the other way around.
How does that apply? Rokushiki and Haki are both abilities/techniques you can use in battle. The general term is "abilities or techniques". They perform similarly but are not the same. Again, I would also go back to Rayleigh's explanation. If CP9 techniques were really Haki, then they would have been an example shown in the manga as it was a significant arc much closer to the timeline of training. Not even a snapshot of any CP9/Rokushiki user was shown there.
So unless you are Oda or have concrete proof that Oda is actually saying it is, STFU already. You are the one acting like a kid who just can't deal with the fact he was wrong or has no actual proof. You are just twisting it to fit the convenience to the hole you've already dug yourself. first of all about them being used as an example i think your timeline is completely screwed up if you think that CP9 happened between the amazon island and Rayleigh explaining Haki unless your trying to say that Enel would not have been used as the example of Observation but considering he was probably the peak of what its possible to do with Observation Haki it makes perfect sense for Luffy to strongly remember him Haki is a power that is within everyone it is not comparing apples to oranges if Rokoshiki is powered by some sort of unnatural ability and is not entirely dependant on Phyiscal strength and skill then it is powered by Haki Where the fuck did he say CP9 happened between amazon island and Rayleigh explaining haki? Second, Enel used Observation Haki because Rayleigh specifically said that Mantra in skypeia is another name for Observation Haki. If you want to be taken seriously then from now on you should only make statements that are 100% true (ie, it's stated in the manga) and leave out all of your ridiculous speculations. Nowhere in the manga does it mention that Rokoshiki is Haki so until oda puts it in the manga you should stfu about it. guess what just happened in the anime LOL
What is this a picture of? I don't remember this scene. Who's the giant fist fighting against (I assume) luffy's?
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On December 25 2012 15:56 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 09:35 saltywet wrote:On December 12 2012 09:11 Forikorder wrote:On December 12 2012 09:04 17Sphynx17 wrote:
@Forik
Just shut it already. You claim so many things as "stated" in the manga and when proof comes to light, you backpedal and say, he didn't say it directly in the manga, but he implied it. Jeez, how far do you want to keep dragging your head in the mud just to keep up your internet fantasy of being a Shounen Manga know-it-all.
You don't have proof, that is a fact.
I will restate my example just so you don't have to go back a few pages to re-read my example.
an apple and an orange are edible and give you vitamins when you ingest them. Given that context they perform the same. The general term for them is they are fruit. But even though they are similar in that regard. They are not the same. An apple is not an orange called a different name, nor is it the other way around.
How does that apply? Rokushiki and Haki are both abilities/techniques you can use in battle. The general term is "abilities or techniques". They perform similarly but are not the same. Again, I would also go back to Rayleigh's explanation. If CP9 techniques were really Haki, then they would have been an example shown in the manga as it was a significant arc much closer to the timeline of training. Not even a snapshot of any CP9/Rokushiki user was shown there.
So unless you are Oda or have concrete proof that Oda is actually saying it is, STFU already. You are the one acting like a kid who just can't deal with the fact he was wrong or has no actual proof. You are just twisting it to fit the convenience to the hole you've already dug yourself. first of all about them being used as an example i think your timeline is completely screwed up if you think that CP9 happened between the amazon island and Rayleigh explaining Haki unless your trying to say that Enel would not have been used as the example of Observation but considering he was probably the peak of what its possible to do with Observation Haki it makes perfect sense for Luffy to strongly remember him Haki is a power that is within everyone it is not comparing apples to oranges if Rokoshiki is powered by some sort of unnatural ability and is not entirely dependant on Phyiscal strength and skill then it is powered by Haki Where the fuck did he say CP9 happened between amazon island and Rayleigh explaining haki? Second, Enel used Observation Haki because Rayleigh specifically said that Mantra in skypeia is another name for Observation Haki. If you want to be taken seriously then from now on you should only make statements that are 100% true (ie, it's stated in the manga) and leave out all of your ridiculous speculations. Nowhere in the manga does it mention that Rokoshiki is Haki so until oda puts it in the manga you should stfu about it. guess what just happened in the anime LOL
Are you stupid? Anyone could've just quoted any vice admiral (eg Doberman) using tekkai during the Marineford arc, and saying the fact that those vice admirals had tekkai/soru and their status dictates of their haki usage proves the theory... I'm pretty sure Robin was pointing out how the guy nearly knocked out Luffy with his punch (aka with haki) and not him using tekkai= haki...
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Do you remember the anime episode where Luffy punches a Pacifista post timeskip and makes the huge dent, the Sentomaru is "Wut, you has haki?!" I think in terms of animation, that's one way to (sort of) tell haki. In this particular episode, you could almost tell the lhama gun that shot the bullet at Luffy caused him to go fainting (eyes all white) and then the guy tells you that the attack had haki. The fact that he smashed Luffy around almost indicated haki, and not him using Rokushiki... Jesus christ, tekkai != haki.
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On December 25 2012 16:06 iSometric wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 15:56 evanthebouncy! wrote:On December 12 2012 09:35 saltywet wrote:On December 12 2012 09:11 Forikorder wrote:On December 12 2012 09:04 17Sphynx17 wrote:
@Forik
Just shut it already. You claim so many things as "stated" in the manga and when proof comes to light, you backpedal and say, he didn't say it directly in the manga, but he implied it. Jeez, how far do you want to keep dragging your head in the mud just to keep up your internet fantasy of being a Shounen Manga know-it-all.
You don't have proof, that is a fact.
I will restate my example just so you don't have to go back a few pages to re-read my example.
an apple and an orange are edible and give you vitamins when you ingest them. Given that context they perform the same. The general term for them is they are fruit. But even though they are similar in that regard. They are not the same. An apple is not an orange called a different name, nor is it the other way around.
How does that apply? Rokushiki and Haki are both abilities/techniques you can use in battle. The general term is "abilities or techniques". They perform similarly but are not the same. Again, I would also go back to Rayleigh's explanation. If CP9 techniques were really Haki, then they would have been an example shown in the manga as it was a significant arc much closer to the timeline of training. Not even a snapshot of any CP9/Rokushiki user was shown there.
So unless you are Oda or have concrete proof that Oda is actually saying it is, STFU already. You are the one acting like a kid who just can't deal with the fact he was wrong or has no actual proof. You are just twisting it to fit the convenience to the hole you've already dug yourself. first of all about them being used as an example i think your timeline is completely screwed up if you think that CP9 happened between the amazon island and Rayleigh explaining Haki unless your trying to say that Enel would not have been used as the example of Observation but considering he was probably the peak of what its possible to do with Observation Haki it makes perfect sense for Luffy to strongly remember him Haki is a power that is within everyone it is not comparing apples to oranges if Rokoshiki is powered by some sort of unnatural ability and is not entirely dependant on Phyiscal strength and skill then it is powered by Haki Where the fuck did he say CP9 happened between amazon island and Rayleigh explaining haki? Second, Enel used Observation Haki because Rayleigh specifically said that Mantra in skypeia is another name for Observation Haki. If you want to be taken seriously then from now on you should only make statements that are 100% true (ie, it's stated in the manga) and leave out all of your ridiculous speculations. Nowhere in the manga does it mention that Rokoshiki is Haki so until oda puts it in the manga you should stfu about it. guess what just happened in the anime LOL Are you stupid? Anyone could've just quoted any vice admiral (eg Doberman) using tekkai during the Marineford arc, and saying the fact that those vice admirals had tekkai/soru and their status dictates of their haki usage proves the theory... I'm pretty sure Robin was pointing out how the guy nearly knocked out Luffy with his punch (aka with haki) and not him using tekkai= haki...
hahahaha I don't often do this but I'll bet I'm not as stupid as you think
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yeah also the fact that that was a filler episode leading up to the non-canon movie should say its not to be taken seriously....hell the resolution to that fight was a shrinking giant going into luffy and regrowing to make him a giant which makes Luffy look incredibly weak by comparison, which makes zero sence since hes going to fight Z in the movie later and he was losing to this guy who was at least the 2nd strongest subordinate of Z.
also i kind of hated that episode and thought it was dumb...but whatever
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On December 25 2012 16:23 Zeo1990 wrote:
yeah also the fact that that was a filler episode leading up to the non-canon movie should say its not to be taken seriously....hell the resolution to that fight was a shrinking giant going into luffy and regrowing to make him a giant which makes Luffy look incredibly weak by comparison, which makes zero sence since hes going to fight Z in the movie later and he was losing to this guy who was at least the 2nd strongest subordinate of Z.
also i kind of hated that episode and thought it was dumb...but whatever
haha yeah i thought the entire filler arc didn't make much sense but I still watched it cuz I had nothing else to watch :/
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It also brings up another thing I don't like about Haki when the guy goes "your haki is too weak." The guy just used tekkai nothing else which is weird unless you want to revive the all techniques are haki debate lol. If it is cannon that Luffy needs to improve his haki in order to beat certain opponents I'm curious how they will show that a character improves Haki. Because even though this fight is not cannon there might be a Vergo or the Axe guy type opponent with strong armament haki again.
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thanks everyone for the suggestions! I will embark on this near 700 chapter journey startingggggggggg....... sometime this break.
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On December 25 2012 16:56 sixduck wrote:
thanks everyone for the suggestions! I will embark on this near 700 chapter journey startingggggggggg....... sometime this break.
And when you will be back, you won't be the same person. OP changes your personality, for good.
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You'll be caught up two days after you start.
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On December 25 2012 16:56 sixduck wrote:
thanks everyone for the suggestions! I will embark on this near 700 chapter journey startingggggggggg....... sometime this break.
You won't regret it!
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From when I started it took me around 3days to finish a 400 chapter marathon of one piece. Not entirely sure if it was 400 chapters but I'm pretty sure the latest episode in the anime was around 325-ish
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