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On March 08 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:31 Sentenal wrote:
The Samurai would be completely redundant if he joined. Brooke himself would already be redundant if it wasn't for him being a musician, and you guys expect a 3rd swordsmen (with no apparent other talent) to join the crew?
As for Law's new bounty, there was 2 years between Marineford and now. 2 years is tons of time for Law to do something big and get a new larger bounty. theres only so many roles a ship needs, what else could they possibly need for there ship? they already have a cook, a doctor, a navigator, a shipwright, a musician and an architect any new SHs will be pretty mcuh jsut for fighting potential
Why do you think Oda is going to all the sudden start including redundant crewmembers? Think about it, virtually every single crew member has a defined role that makes them unique, right? Even when Jinbe joins up with them later, hes a Fishman, giving him a unique role. This Samurai would just be yet another swordsmen. Nothing at all unique to him. Unless he shows some other ability/job in this arc, he has a 0% chance of joining. I trust Oda to not add crewmembers just for the sake of adding crewmembers.
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On March 08 2012 06:58 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Sentenal wrote:
The Samurai would be completely redundant if he joined. Brooke himself would already be redundant if it wasn't for him being a musician, and you guys expect a 3rd swordsmen (with no apparent other talent) to join the crew?
As for Law's new bounty, there was 2 years between Marineford and now. 2 years is tons of time for Law to do something big and get a new larger bounty. theres only so many roles a ship needs, what else could they possibly need for there ship? they already have a cook, a doctor, a navigator, a shipwright, a musician and an architect any new SHs will be pretty mcuh jsut for fighting potential Why do you think Oda is going to all the sudden start including redundant crewmembers? Think about it, virtually every single crew member has a defined role that makes them unique, right? Even when Jinbe joins up with them later, hes a Fishman, giving him a unique role. This Samurai would just be yet another swordsmen. Nothing at all unique to him. Unless he shows some other ability/job in this arc, he has a 0% chance of joining. I trust Oda to not add crewmembers just for the sake of adding crewmembers.
i agree on this.
i cant even imagine what role he possibly could have in the SH crew. And even if he shows something special that could be useful, i very highly doubt he has any chance of joining the crew.
And im happy about that.
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On March 06 2012 22:32 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 07:07 Juicyfruit wrote:
300m bounty onli. Pre-timeskip luffy was 400m. You should make sure facts are correct before putting them out there. Go check out the proper bounties.
Wait, what? What's incorrect about it?
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On March 08 2012 06:58 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Sentenal wrote:
The Samurai would be completely redundant if he joined. Brooke himself would already be redundant if it wasn't for him being a musician, and you guys expect a 3rd swordsmen (with no apparent other talent) to join the crew?
As for Law's new bounty, there was 2 years between Marineford and now. 2 years is tons of time for Law to do something big and get a new larger bounty. theres only so many roles a ship needs, what else could they possibly need for there ship? they already have a cook, a doctor, a navigator, a shipwright, a musician and an architect any new SHs will be pretty mcuh jsut for fighting potential Why do you think Oda is going to all the sudden start including redundant crewmembers? Think about it, virtually every single crew member has a defined role that makes them unique, right? Even when Jinbe joins up with them later, hes a Fishman, giving him a unique role. This Samurai would just be yet another swordsmen. Nothing at all unique to him. Unless he shows some other ability/job in this arc, he has a 0% chance of joining. I trust Oda to not add crewmembers just for the sake of adding crewmembers.
and what amazing unique talent does Zoro bring to the table?
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On March 08 2012 07:10 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 06:58 Sentenal wrote:On March 08 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Sentenal wrote:
The Samurai would be completely redundant if he joined. Brooke himself would already be redundant if it wasn't for him being a musician, and you guys expect a 3rd swordsmen (with no apparent other talent) to join the crew?
As for Law's new bounty, there was 2 years between Marineford and now. 2 years is tons of time for Law to do something big and get a new larger bounty. theres only so many roles a ship needs, what else could they possibly need for there ship? they already have a cook, a doctor, a navigator, a shipwright, a musician and an architect any new SHs will be pretty mcuh jsut for fighting potential Why do you think Oda is going to all the sudden start including redundant crewmembers? Think about it, virtually every single crew member has a defined role that makes them unique, right? Even when Jinbe joins up with them later, hes a Fishman, giving him a unique role. This Samurai would just be yet another swordsmen. Nothing at all unique to him. Unless he shows some other ability/job in this arc, he has a 0% chance of joining. I trust Oda to not add crewmembers just for the sake of adding crewmembers. and what amazing unique talent does Zoro bring to the table?
Zoro doesn't need one. He's the first-mate / first swordsman / a badass.
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On March 08 2012 07:11 Juicyfruit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 07:10 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:58 Sentenal wrote:On March 08 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Sentenal wrote:
The Samurai would be completely redundant if he joined. Brooke himself would already be redundant if it wasn't for him being a musician, and you guys expect a 3rd swordsmen (with no apparent other talent) to join the crew?
As for Law's new bounty, there was 2 years between Marineford and now. 2 years is tons of time for Law to do something big and get a new larger bounty. theres only so many roles a ship needs, what else could they possibly need for there ship? they already have a cook, a doctor, a navigator, a shipwright, a musician and an architect any new SHs will be pretty mcuh jsut for fighting potential Why do you think Oda is going to all the sudden start including redundant crewmembers? Think about it, virtually every single crew member has a defined role that makes them unique, right? Even when Jinbe joins up with them later, hes a Fishman, giving him a unique role. This Samurai would just be yet another swordsmen. Nothing at all unique to him. Unless he shows some other ability/job in this arc, he has a 0% chance of joining. I trust Oda to not add crewmembers just for the sake of adding crewmembers. and what amazing unique talent does Zoro bring to the table? Zoro doesn't need one. He's the first-mate / first swordsman / a badass.
alright give the samurai a title and he brings as much to the table as Zoro
or maybe hell be a smith or some other job that doesnt actually fit on a ship (archaeologist) and were good
i mean usopp is a sniper and for the first half of the manga they didnt even use there cannon
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Its interesting that it was law who did surgery and saved luffy's life. I wondered if that contributed at all to his bounty...
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On March 08 2012 07:13 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 07:11 Juicyfruit wrote:On March 08 2012 07:10 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:58 Sentenal wrote:On March 08 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Sentenal wrote:
The Samurai would be completely redundant if he joined. Brooke himself would already be redundant if it wasn't for him being a musician, and you guys expect a 3rd swordsmen (with no apparent other talent) to join the crew?
As for Law's new bounty, there was 2 years between Marineford and now. 2 years is tons of time for Law to do something big and get a new larger bounty. theres only so many roles a ship needs, what else could they possibly need for there ship? they already have a cook, a doctor, a navigator, a shipwright, a musician and an architect any new SHs will be pretty mcuh jsut for fighting potential Why do you think Oda is going to all the sudden start including redundant crewmembers? Think about it, virtually every single crew member has a defined role that makes them unique, right? Even when Jinbe joins up with them later, hes a Fishman, giving him a unique role. This Samurai would just be yet another swordsmen. Nothing at all unique to him. Unless he shows some other ability/job in this arc, he has a 0% chance of joining. I trust Oda to not add crewmembers just for the sake of adding crewmembers. and what amazing unique talent does Zoro bring to the table? Zoro doesn't need one. He's the first-mate / first swordsman / a badass. alright give the samurai a title and he brings as much to the table as Zoro or maybe hell be a smith or some other job that doesnt actually fit on a ship (archaeologist) and were good i mean usopp is a sniper and for the first half of the manga they didnt even use there cannon
Zoro is already in the crew, is their first mate, and swordsmen. This samurai would be Zoro #2. If Zoro wasn't already in the crew, sure, he could have a unique spot. But Zoro has been in the crew for over 600 chapters, in case you forget. Do you know what "Redundant" means?
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On March 08 2012 07:13 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 07:11 Juicyfruit wrote:On March 08 2012 07:10 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:58 Sentenal wrote:On March 08 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Sentenal wrote:
The Samurai would be completely redundant if he joined. Brooke himself would already be redundant if it wasn't for him being a musician, and you guys expect a 3rd swordsmen (with no apparent other talent) to join the crew?
As for Law's new bounty, there was 2 years between Marineford and now. 2 years is tons of time for Law to do something big and get a new larger bounty. theres only so many roles a ship needs, what else could they possibly need for there ship? they already have a cook, a doctor, a navigator, a shipwright, a musician and an architect any new SHs will be pretty mcuh jsut for fighting potential Why do you think Oda is going to all the sudden start including redundant crewmembers? Think about it, virtually every single crew member has a defined role that makes them unique, right? Even when Jinbe joins up with them later, hes a Fishman, giving him a unique role. This Samurai would just be yet another swordsmen. Nothing at all unique to him. Unless he shows some other ability/job in this arc, he has a 0% chance of joining. I trust Oda to not add crewmembers just for the sake of adding crewmembers. and what amazing unique talent does Zoro bring to the table? Zoro doesn't need one. He's the first-mate / first swordsman / a badass. alright give the samurai a title and he brings as much to the table as Zoro or maybe hell be a smith or some other job that doesnt actually fit on a ship (archaeologist) and were good i mean usopp is a sniper and for the first half of the manga they didnt even use there cannon
except then you would have 2 zoros? what's the point of having 2, are you saying get rid of zoro and take him instead? Like i said my bet is he is their introduction to the wano country meaning he'll probably lead them to there or something like that.
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On March 08 2012 07:33 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 07:13 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 07:11 Juicyfruit wrote:On March 08 2012 07:10 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:58 Sentenal wrote:On March 08 2012 06:32 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 06:31 Sentenal wrote:
The Samurai would be completely redundant if he joined. Brooke himself would already be redundant if it wasn't for him being a musician, and you guys expect a 3rd swordsmen (with no apparent other talent) to join the crew?
As for Law's new bounty, there was 2 years between Marineford and now. 2 years is tons of time for Law to do something big and get a new larger bounty. theres only so many roles a ship needs, what else could they possibly need for there ship? they already have a cook, a doctor, a navigator, a shipwright, a musician and an architect any new SHs will be pretty mcuh jsut for fighting potential Why do you think Oda is going to all the sudden start including redundant crewmembers? Think about it, virtually every single crew member has a defined role that makes them unique, right? Even when Jinbe joins up with them later, hes a Fishman, giving him a unique role. This Samurai would just be yet another swordsmen. Nothing at all unique to him. Unless he shows some other ability/job in this arc, he has a 0% chance of joining. I trust Oda to not add crewmembers just for the sake of adding crewmembers. and what amazing unique talent does Zoro bring to the table? Zoro doesn't need one. He's the first-mate / first swordsman / a badass. alright give the samurai a title and he brings as much to the table as Zoro or maybe hell be a smith or some other job that doesnt actually fit on a ship (archaeologist) and were good i mean usopp is a sniper and for the first half of the manga they didnt even use there cannon Zoro is already in the crew, is their first mate, and swordsmen. This samurai would be Zoro #2. If Zoro wasn't already in the crew, sure, he could have a unique spot. But Zoro has been in the crew for over 600 chapters, in case you forget. Do you know what "Redundant" means?
Just to add onto this, if this Samurai joins the crew, that would be exactly the same as another Cook joinnig the crew, or another Doctor. Redundant. Those roles are already filled. Oda is better than that, leave it to Kubo or Kishimoto to do that shit.
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Yep I highly doubt the Samurai will join the crew, but there is a chance he might travel with them like Vivi did.
Also I agree Zoro is valuable because he is Luffy's first mate with the strongest resolve of all the crew members which was established upon his introduction and meeting Mihawk. Aside from matters of navigation Zoro gives very serious advice and was the one who set the tone for when Usopp quit the crew when Luffy was immature to handle it properly.
About Robin, her job is useless for the crew that is for sure. That she can read poneglphys has not helped the crew once irc. However Robin serves an important story narrative as the "Void History" is something Oda has been building up as important even though so far it's just been tagged on the end of arcs.
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Robin helps progress the story along.
I guess time to theorycraft.
What other roles are possible?
Gunslinger?
... can't think of any other one, except for pretty nurse for Sanji
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On March 08 2012 08:12 BlackMagister wrote:
Yep I highly doubt the Samurai will join the crew, but there is a chance he might travel with them like Vivi did.
Also I agree Zoro is valuable because he is Luffy's first mate with the strongest resolve of all the crew members which was established upon his introduction and meeting Mihawk. Aside from matters of navigation Zoro gives very serious advice and was the one who set the tone for when Usopp quit the crew when Luffy was immature to handle it properly.
About Robin, her job is useless for the crew that is for sure. That she can read poneglphys has not helped the crew once irc. However Robin serves an important story narrative as the "Void History" is something Oda has been building up as important even though so far it's just been tagged on the end of arcs.
I think the samurai will travel with them like Vivi did, as you said and they will somehow travel to the land where the samurai is and stuff. That would add to the already large list of infamous places the SH pirates have been.
Zoro is the first mate and was with them for over 600 chapters as someone has said. So his role is well... be the ships anchor in a sense.
In regards to Robin, she is an encyclopedia for the crew. Notice whenever the crew doesn't know something, Robin does? What would happen if they didn't have her; they wouldn't know shit. Sure, most times half the crew doesn't understand (LOL), but she still serves the purpose of enlightenment to the crew about x situation/monster/past. Which is important as you don't want to blindly storm into y situation (even though it already happens with Luffy LOL).
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On March 08 2012 08:19 wunsun wrote:
Robin helps progress the story along.
I guess time to theorycraft.
What other roles are possible?
Gunslinger?
... can't think of any other one, except for pretty nurse for Sanji
with franky they already have all the roles a ship needs so unless the straw hats never get a new crewmate ever there gonna get someone "redundant"
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On March 08 2012 08:19 wunsun wrote:
Robin helps progress the story along.
I guess time to theorycraft.
What other roles are possible?
Gunslinger?
... can't think of any other one, except for pretty nurse for Sanji
I don't think they will be picking up more crewmembers besides Jinbei. Luffy had met Jinbei in advance but a brand new crewmember really lessens the "feelings" behind the 2 year time skip IMO. I think Oda has more or less finished the Straw Hat's lineup for a while. He already has a lot of battles to draw each arc for each of them.
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That's not what "redundant" means. We mean two characters that have the same role would be redundant. You just said since Franky filled the last essential for role for a ship everyone else is redundant is just wrong. You could argue none of the crew beyond Franky are needed, but not redundant. The ship doesn't need a musician, it doesn't need an archaeologist, but having one when it didn't have one before is not redundant.
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Fenrax
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This arc is awesome and epic. I loved every panel so far. Just everything seems right about it. Cool main characters and lot of unclear things. Which is a good thing in One Piece. If it was Bleach you knew that 90% of it wouldn't ever make sense or just never be mentioned again by Kubo but with Oda you can just relax and enjoy the show.
The most important part for the next chapters though is that Robin doesn't put on a winter coat or something. Want more fan service of her!
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On March 08 2012 08:21 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 08:19 wunsun wrote:
Robin helps progress the story along.
I guess time to theorycraft.
What other roles are possible?
Gunslinger?
... can't think of any other one, except for pretty nurse for Sanji with franky they already have all the roles a ship needs so unless the straw hats never get a new crewmate ever there gonna get someone "redundant"
...Maybe if we say "repetitive", would you understand that? Like I said, this Samurai joining would be the exact same as getting another Cook, or getting another Doctor. Whats so hard to understand about this?
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On March 08 2012 00:55 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Trafalgar going to fight smoker over Luffy's lo-- errrr rivalry. They'll get more Luffy than Hancock will.
Everyone's missing a crucial point here.
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/659/16
The 'boss' says: "I won't come out either." But Law comes out.
That means the boss isn't Law. I'd go far as to guess that "Law" isn't actually Law either, it might just be a mirage or creation by whatever power the REAL boss has.
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On March 08 2012 09:38 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 08:21 Forikorder wrote:On March 08 2012 08:19 wunsun wrote:
Robin helps progress the story along.
I guess time to theorycraft.
What other roles are possible?
Gunslinger?
... can't think of any other one, except for pretty nurse for Sanji with franky they already have all the roles a ship needs so unless the straw hats never get a new crewmate ever there gonna get someone "redundant" ...Maybe if we say "repetitive", would you understand that? Like I said, this Samurai joining would be the exact same as getting another Cook, or getting another Doctor. Whats so hard to understand about this?
well jimbei joining would be the same as them getting another sanji so why should they let him join? they both use martial arts erego there both the same erego your all hypocrites
On March 08 2012 09:45 Keone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 00:55 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Trafalgar going to fight smoker over Luffy's lo-- errrr rivalry. They'll get more Luffy than Hancock will. Everyone's missing a crucial point here. http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/659/16The 'boss' says: "I won't come out either." But Law comes out. That means the boss isn't Law. I'd go far as to guess that "Law" isn't actually Law either, it might just be a mirage or creation by whatever power the REAL boss has.
the samurai was definently caused by laws power, law is not the boss i dont think anyonehas said hes the bos the boss seems to be made of gas and has a different speech bubble the boss is jsut someone law is either using working with or being used by
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